Re: [zfs-discuss] 700GB gone? "zfs list" and "df" differs!

2011-07-04 Thread Orvar Korvar
The problem is more clearly stated here. Look, 700GB is gone (the correct 
number is 620GB)!

First I do "zfs list" onto TempStorage/Backup which reports 800GB. This is 
correct. 

Then I do "df -h" which reports only 180GB, which is not correct. So, it should 
be 800GB of data, but "df" reports only 180GB. This means 620GB is gone. Where 
is it? I know there is 620GB worth of data, which I can not access. Where is my 
data, and how can I access it?




root@solaris:/mnt/TempStorage/Stuff# zfs list
NAME  USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
TempStorage   916G  45,1G  37,3G  /mnt/TempStorage
TempStorage/Backup799G  45,1G   177G  /mnt/TempStorage/Backup   
< OBS! 800GB!
TempStorage/EmmasFolder  78,6G  45,1G  78,6G  /mnt/TempStorage/EmmasFolder
TempStorage/Stuff1,08G  45,1G  1,08G  /mnt/TempStorage/Stuff



root@solaris:/mnt/TempStorage/Stuff# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
TempStorage83G   38G   46G  46% /mnt/TempStorage
TempStorage/Backup223G  178G   46G  80% /mnt/TempStorage/Backup<-- 
only 200GB!!!
TempStorage/EmmasFolder
  124G   79G   46G  64% /mnt/TempStorage/EmmasFolder
TempStorage/Stuff  47G  1,1G   46G   3% /mnt/TempStorage/Stuff
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Re: [zfs-discuss] 700GB gone? "zfs list" and "df" differs!

2011-07-04 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Orvar Korvar
 wrote:
> The problem is more clearly stated here. Look, 700GB is gone (the correct 
> number is 620GB)!

Somehow you remind me of the story "the boy who cried wolf" (Look,
look! The wolf ate my disk space) :P

>
> First I do "zfs list" onto TempStorage/Backup which reports 800GB. This is 
> correct.
>
> Then I do "df -h" which reports only 180GB, which is not correct. So, it 
> should be 800GB of data, but "df" reports only 180GB. This means 620GB is 
> gone. Where is it? I know there is 620GB worth of data, which I can not 
> access. Where is my data, and how can I access it?

The behaviour is perfectly normal.

>
>
>
>
> root@solaris:/mnt/TempStorage/Stuff# zfs list
> NAME                      USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
> TempStorage               916G  45,1G  37,3G  /mnt/TempStorage
> TempStorage/Backup        799G  45,1G   177G  /mnt/TempStorage/Backup   
> < OBS! 800GB!
> TempStorage/EmmasFolder  78,6G  45,1G  78,6G  /mnt/TempStorage/EmmasFolder
> TempStorage/Stuff        1,08G  45,1G  1,08G  /mnt/TempStorage/Stuff
>
>
>
> root@solaris:/mnt/TempStorage/Stuff# df -h
> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> TempStorage            83G   38G   46G  46% /mnt/TempStorage
> TempStorage/Backup    223G  178G   46G  80% /mnt/TempStorage/Backup    
> <-- only 200GB!!!
> TempStorage/EmmasFolder
>                      124G   79G   46G  64% /mnt/TempStorage/EmmasFolder
> TempStorage/Stuff      47G  1,1G   46G   3% /mnt/TempStorage/Stuff

I can't find the reference from the back of my head, but the short version is:
- in zfs, free space is shared (unless you do some fancy stuff like reservation)
- "Avail", as reported by "df", will match "Avail", as reported by "zfs list".
- "Used", as reported by "df", will match "Used", as reported by "zfs
list". Well, close anyway. See
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+zfs/faq/#HWhydoesdu1reportdifferentfilesizesforZFSandUFSWhydoesntthespaceconsumptionthatisreportedbythedfcommandandthezfslistcommandmatch
- zfs will show a "fake" number in df's "Size", to be roughly the sum
of "Used" + "Avail" for that particular filesystem. "fake", as in this
not the actual pool size.

So in short, for filesystem/dataset in the same pool, df will show the
same "Avail", but different "Used" and "Size".

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 700GB gone? "zfs list" and "df" differs!

2011-07-04 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Fajar A. Nugraha  wrote:
> - "Used", as reported by "df", will match "Used", as reported by "zfs
> list".

Sorry, it should be

"Used", as reported by "df", will match "Refer", as reported by "zfs list".

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 700GB gone? "zfs list" and "df" differs!

2011-07-04 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
> NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT
> TempStorage 916G 45,1G 37,3G /mnt/TempStorage
> TempStorage/Backup 799G 45,1G 177G /mnt/TempStorage/Backup < OBS! 
> 800GB!

You probably have snapshots eating the remaining 620GB...

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 700GB gone? "zfs list" and "df" differs!

2011-07-04 Thread Orvar Korvar
PS. I do not have any snapshots:

root@frasse:~# zfs list
NAME   USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
TempStorage916G  45,1G  37,3G  /mnt/TempStorage
TempStorage/Backup 799G  45,1G   177G  
/mnt/TempStorage/Backup
TempStorage/EmmasFolder   78,6G  45,1G  78,6G  
/mnt/TempStorage/EmmasFolder
TempStorage/Stuff 1,08G  45,1G  1,08G  
/mnt/TempStorage/Stuff



root@frasse:/mnt/TempStorage# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
TempStorage83G   38G   46G  46% /mnt/TempStorage
TempStorage/Backup223G  178G   46G  80% /mnt/TempStorage/Backup
TempStorage/EmmasFolder
  124G   79G   46G  64% /mnt/TempStorage/EmmasFolder
TempStorage/Stuff  47G  1,1G   46G   3% /mnt/TempStorage/Stuff
/dev/dsk/c8t5d0p3  98G   97G  1,6G  99% /mnt/Temporary
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Re: [zfs-discuss] 700GB gone? "zfs list" and "df" differs!

2011-07-04 Thread Chris Ridd

On 4 Jul 2011, at 12:58, Orvar Korvar wrote:

> PS. I do not have any snapshots:
> 
> root@frasse:~# zfs list
> NAME   USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
> TempStorage916G  45,1G  37,3G  
> /mnt/TempStorage
> TempStorage/Backup 799G  45,1G   177G  
> /mnt/TempStorage/Backup
> TempStorage/EmmasFolder   78,6G  45,1G  78,6G  
> /mnt/TempStorage/EmmasFolder
> TempStorage/Stuff 1,08G  45,1G  1,08G  
> /mnt/TempStorage/Stuff

In recent Solaris variants "zfs list" doesn't show snapshots by default; you 
need to add "-t snapshot" (or "-t all") to see them.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 700GB gone? "zfs list" and "df" differs!

2011-07-04 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
try 'zfs list -t all'

roy

- Original Message -
> PS. I do not have any snapshots:
> 
> root@frasse:~# zfs list
> NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT
> TempStorage 916G 45,1G 37,3G /mnt/TempStorage
> TempStorage/Backup 799G 45,1G 177G /mnt/TempStorage/Backup
> TempStorage/EmmasFolder 78,6G 45,1G 78,6G /mnt/TempStorage/EmmasFolder
> TempStorage/Stuff 1,08G 45,1G 1,08G /mnt/TempStorage/Stuff
> 
> 
> 
> root@frasse:/mnt/TempStorage# df -h
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> TempStorage 83G 38G 46G 46% /mnt/TempStorage
> TempStorage/Backup 223G 178G 46G 80% /mnt/TempStorage/Backup
> TempStorage/EmmasFolder
> 124G 79G 46G 64% /mnt/TempStorage/EmmasFolder
> TempStorage/Stuff 47G 1,1G 46G 3% /mnt/TempStorage/Stuff
> /dev/dsk/c8t5d0p3 98G 97G 1,6G 99% /mnt/Temporary
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Re: [zfs-discuss] 700GB gone? "zfs list" and "df" differs!

2011-07-04 Thread Jim Klimov

2011-07-04 15:04, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk пишет:

NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT
TempStorage 916G 45,1G 37,3G /mnt/TempStorage
TempStorage/Backup 799G 45,1G 177G /mnt/TempStorage/Backup< OBS! 800GB!

You probably have snapshots eating the remaining 620GB...

I thought so too - df can lie a bit about used space, but
not by such a margin in my experience. It would only report
the live dataset, not its snapshots, though. Try running:

# zfs list -tall -r TempStorage/Backup

If you have some data you can't access now, it is possibly
removed (by "rm" or alike) and referred to in the snapshots,
perhaps automatic (like zfs-autosnapshot service or the time
slider service).

If so, you can access the files under
/mnt/TempStorage/Backup/.zfs/snapshots/SNAPSHOTNAME/your/data/path/file

HTH,
//Jim

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 700GB gone? "zfs list" and "df" differs!

2011-07-04 Thread Jim Klimov

2011-07-04 15:58, Orvar Korvar пишет:

PS. I do not have any snapshots:


Depending on OS version and/or pool settings, they may not be
shown by default as to not clobber the output.

Try a direct request with "zfs list -t snapshot" or "-t all", or list
the .zfs/snapshot directory under the filesystem dataset's
mountpoint - .zfs/ is always there, even if invisible due to settings.

//Jim

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 700GB gone? "zfs list" and "df" differs!

2011-07-04 Thread Kalle Anka
Ok, it seems here is the missing data. Here is a snapshot called "stadar". 
Thank 
you. Problem solved.

root@frasse:/mnt/TempStorage# zfs list -t all
NAME   USED  AVAIL  REFER  
MOUNTPOINT
TempStorage916G  45,1G  37,3G  
/mnt/TempStorage
TempStorage/Backup 799G  45,1G   177G  
/mnt/TempStorage/Backup
TempStorage/Backup@stadar   621G  -   762G  -
TempStorage/EmmasFolder   78,6G  45,1G  78,6G  
/mnt/TempStorage/EmmasFolder
TempStorage/Stuff 1,08G  45,1G  1,08G  
/mnt/TempStorage/Stuff









- Original Message 
From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk 
To: Orvar Korvar 
Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
Sent: Mon, July 4, 2011 3:02:24 PM
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] 700GB gone? "zfs list" and "df" differs!

try 'zfs list -t all'

roy

- Original Message -
> PS. I do not have any snapshots:
> 
> root@frasse:~# zfs list
> NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT
> TempStorage 916G 45,1G 37,3G /mnt/TempStorage
> TempStorage/Backup 799G 45,1G 177G /mnt/TempStorage/Backup
> TempStorage/EmmasFolder 78,6G 45,1G 78,6G /mnt/TempStorage/EmmasFolder
> TempStorage/Stuff 1,08G 45,1G 1,08G /mnt/TempStorage/Stuff
> 
> 
> 
> root@frasse:/mnt/TempStorage# df -h
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> TempStorage 83G 38G 46G 46% /mnt/TempStorage
> TempStorage/Backup 223G 178G 46G 80% /mnt/TempStorage/Backup
> TempStorage/EmmasFolder
> 124G 79G 46G 64% /mnt/TempStorage/EmmasFolder
> TempStorage/Stuff 47G 1,1G 46G 3% /mnt/TempStorage/Stuff
> /dev/dsk/c8t5d0p3 98G 97G 1,6G 99% /mnt/Temporary
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