[zfs-discuss] zfs zpool recommendation

2008-10-29 Thread Mike
Hi all,

I have been asked to build a new server and would like to get some opinions on 
how to setup a zfs pool for the application running on the server.  The server 
will be exclusively for running netbackup application.

Now which would be better? setting up a raidz pool with 6x146gig drives or 
setting up 3 mirrors of 2x146gig into a pool?

Currently I have it setup with the mirrors.. but am wondering if the raidz 
possibility would be a better choice.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs zpool recommendation

2008-10-29 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 29 October, 2008 - Mike sent me these 0,7K bytes:

 Hi all,
 
 I have been asked to build a new server and would like to get some
 opinions on how to setup a zfs pool for the application running on the
 server.  The server will be exclusively for running netbackup
 application.
 
 Now which would be better? setting up a raidz pool with 6x146gig
 drives or setting up 3 mirrors of 2x146gig into a pool?
 
 Currently I have it setup with the mirrors.. but am wondering if the
 raidz possibility would be a better choice.

Define better?

The raidz option will give you more storage at less performance.. The
mirror thing has the possibility of achieving higher reliability.. 1 to
3 disks can fail without interruptions, depending on how Murphy picks
them.. The raidz1 one can handle 1 disk only..

/Tomas
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Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs zpool recommendation

2008-10-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Tomas Ögren wrote:


The raidz option will give you more storage at less performance.. The
mirror thing has the possibility of achieving higher reliability.. 1 to
3 disks can fail without interruptions, depending on how Murphy picks
them.. The raidz1 one can handle 1 disk only..


Mirrors also offer ease of administration.  Half the drives can be 
administratively removed and the pool will still work.  The sizes of 
drives in individual pairs can be updated one by one in order to offer 
more space rather than requiring all of the drives in a raidz to be 
replaced before the space is seen.  Resilvering will be faster when 
using mirrors since only one disk has to be read to reconstruct the 
data.  If you feel uneasy about reliability, then you can easily use 
tripple mirroring.  However raidz2 offers more reliability than 
dual-mirrors and raidz1.


Bob
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Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs zpool recommendation

2008-10-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Mike wrote:

 I am not seeing how using raidz would be a performance hit. Usually 
 stripes perform faster than mirrors.

The mirrors load-share and offer a lot more disk seeking capacity 
(more IOPS).

Bob
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Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs zpool recommendation

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Laird
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 By Better I meant the best practice for a server running the Netbackup 
 application.

 I am not seeing how using raidz would be a performance hit. Usually stripes 
 perform faster than mirrors.

raidz performs reads from all devices in parallel, so you get 1
drive's worth of I/O operations, not 6 drives' worth.  With 3 mirrors,
you'd get 6 drives' worth of reads and 3 drives' worth of writes.
Using raidz might get you slightly better read and write bandwidth,
though.


Scott
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