Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Hi Kris, The /tmp issue described below looks like a bug to me. I will try to reproduce this and get back to you with either a bug ID or a request for more info. Thanks, Cindy On 08/20/09 12:00, Kris Kasner wrote: Thanks for the reply! My /var issue was a problem with my process.. I did: install UFS root, install extra stuff, create UFS flar. lucreate ZFS root <- this is where my /var dissappeared flar create zfs flar In my straight zfsroot install profiles I have a seperate /var - I didn't even think to check post lucreate. Easy enough to split /var back out into a dataset before I do the flar create. I'm trying to get my zfsroot flar and my ufs flar to be as similar as possible for the enterprise environment. /tmp is still a mystery.. it's tmpfs on the source system and the vfstab entry didn't survive the zfsroot flash install. That's super simple to fix in a finish script Source system: 10:57:53 uigvbp234(5)> df -lk /tmp / Filesystemkbytesused avail capacity Mounted on swap 60663282248 6064080 1%/tmp rpool/ROOT/s10-zfs 34836480 5905781 1954777824%/ zfsroot flash installed system: 10:57:39 uigvbp234v(8)> df -lk /tmp / Filesystemkbytesused avail capacity Mounted on rpool/ROOT/s10-zfs 70189056 6153504 4924124612%/ rpool/ROOT/s10-zfs 70189056 6153504 4924124612%/ Thanks again for all of the information, and for helping make zfs flash installs a reality! --Kris Yesterday at 15:13, Lori Alt wrote: On 08/19/09 14:57, Kris Kasner wrote: Hi. First - Thanks very much for releasing this as a patch and not making us wait until U8. It's very much appreciated. Things we put on hold can start moving again which is a good thing. Is there further documentation on this yet? I just asked Cindy Swearingen, the tech writer for ZFS, about this and sadly, it appears that there isn't any documentation for this available outside of Sun yet. The documentation for using flash archives to set up systems with zfs roots won't be available until the release of U8. I will give you the very short summary and Cindy is going to look into putting some more information out on the zfs-boot page of the opensolaris website (which doesn't really make sense since this isnt' supported on OpenSolaris, but whatever). I haven't been able to find it, and it looks like most of the interesting stuff is in 'pfinstall' so I can't just go look and see how it works.. I have a couple of questions on how zfsroot interacts with flash install - I'm happy to go figure it out if you can point me at the docs.. Failing that, hopefully someone can help me answer the below questions. on our zfs root systems, we like to keep /var as a separate dataset on servers so we can monitor it's usage. We did that before with the line: bootenv installbe bename zfsroot dataset /var Bottom line: whatever the configuration is of the system that you use as the basis for generating the flash archive, that's the configuration that will exist on systems installed using the flar. If the original system has a separate /var, the systems created from it will have a separate /var. additional datasets I create in a finish script. Can a zfsroot flash installed system have a separate dataset for /var? It seems a little counter intuitive to me to say partitioning explicit when everything is going into a zfs pool with a single dataset - are there other profile tokens that make this. Yes, I know, but that's the way flash archive support works (even before zfs was added to it). One last thing - My flash installs are working, but I'm ending up with /tmp as a non tmpfs filesystem (no vfstab entry for it..) I can easily fix this in a postinstall/finish script, but if there is a reason it's not happening that can be fixed in my JS profile, that would be better. I don't know why you wouldn't have a separate /tmp. If you're sure that the system from which the flar is generated has a /tmp file system, but the system that results from the install of the flash archive does not have a separate /tmp, there might be a bug. Get back to me on it later if you confirm this. So here's the quick summary of how to do flash archive installs of systems with zfs root file systems: 1. Set up the system that you want to replicate or re-create. I.e. install a system with a zfs root file system and add whatever customizations you want to it. By default, ALL datasets in the root pool (except for swap and dump) are included in the flash archive, not just those that are part of the Solaris name space. 2. Use flarcreate to create the flash archive on the system. There is a new -D option that can be used (repeatedly, if you wish) on the command to exclude datasets from the archive. So an example command might be: # flarcreate -n ourU8 -D rpool/somedata /some-remote-directory/ourU8.flar 3. Set up the system you want to install for jumpstart ins
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Thanks for the reply! My /var issue was a problem with my process.. I did: install UFS root, install extra stuff, create UFS flar. lucreate ZFS root <- this is where my /var dissappeared flar create zfs flar In my straight zfsroot install profiles I have a seperate /var - I didn't even think to check post lucreate. Easy enough to split /var back out into a dataset before I do the flar create. I'm trying to get my zfsroot flar and my ufs flar to be as similar as possible for the enterprise environment. /tmp is still a mystery.. it's tmpfs on the source system and the vfstab entry didn't survive the zfsroot flash install. That's super simple to fix in a finish script Source system: 10:57:53 uigvbp234(5)> df -lk /tmp / Filesystemkbytesused avail capacity Mounted on swap 60663282248 6064080 1%/tmp rpool/ROOT/s10-zfs 34836480 5905781 1954777824%/ zfsroot flash installed system: 10:57:39 uigvbp234v(8)> df -lk /tmp / Filesystemkbytesused avail capacity Mounted on rpool/ROOT/s10-zfs 70189056 6153504 4924124612%/ rpool/ROOT/s10-zfs 70189056 6153504 4924124612%/ Thanks again for all of the information, and for helping make zfs flash installs a reality! --Kris Yesterday at 15:13, Lori Alt wrote: On 08/19/09 14:57, Kris Kasner wrote: Hi. First - Thanks very much for releasing this as a patch and not making us wait until U8. It's very much appreciated. Things we put on hold can start moving again which is a good thing. Is there further documentation on this yet? I just asked Cindy Swearingen, the tech writer for ZFS, about this and sadly, it appears that there isn't any documentation for this available outside of Sun yet. The documentation for using flash archives to set up systems with zfs roots won't be available until the release of U8. I will give you the very short summary and Cindy is going to look into putting some more information out on the zfs-boot page of the opensolaris website (which doesn't really make sense since this isnt' supported on OpenSolaris, but whatever). I haven't been able to find it, and it looks like most of the interesting stuff is in 'pfinstall' so I can't just go look and see how it works.. I have a couple of questions on how zfsroot interacts with flash install - I'm happy to go figure it out if you can point me at the docs.. Failing that, hopefully someone can help me answer the below questions. on our zfs root systems, we like to keep /var as a separate dataset on servers so we can monitor it's usage. We did that before with the line: bootenv installbe bename zfsroot dataset /var Bottom line: whatever the configuration is of the system that you use as the basis for generating the flash archive, that's the configuration that will exist on systems installed using the flar. If the original system has a separate /var, the systems created from it will have a separate /var. additional datasets I create in a finish script. Can a zfsroot flash installed system have a separate dataset for /var? It seems a little counter intuitive to me to say partitioning explicit when everything is going into a zfs pool with a single dataset - are there other profile tokens that make this. Yes, I know, but that's the way flash archive support works (even before zfs was added to it). One last thing - My flash installs are working, but I'm ending up with /tmp as a non tmpfs filesystem (no vfstab entry for it..) I can easily fix this in a postinstall/finish script, but if there is a reason it's not happening that can be fixed in my JS profile, that would be better. I don't know why you wouldn't have a separate /tmp. If you're sure that the system from which the flar is generated has a /tmp file system, but the system that results from the install of the flash archive does not have a separate /tmp, there might be a bug. Get back to me on it later if you confirm this. So here's the quick summary of how to do flash archive installs of systems with zfs root file systems: 1. Set up the system that you want to replicate or re-create. I.e. install a system with a zfs root file system and add whatever customizations you want to it. By default, ALL datasets in the root pool (except for swap and dump) are included in the flash archive, not just those that are part of the Solaris name space. 2. Use flarcreate to create the flash archive on the system. There is a new -D option that can be used (repeatedly, if you wish) on the command to exclude datasets from the archive. So an example command might be: # flarcreate -n ourU8 -D rpool/somedata /some-remote-directory/ourU8.flar 3. Set up the system you want to install for jumpstart install (however you do that). Use a profile something like this: install_type flash_install archive_location nfs schubert:/export/home/lalt/U8.flar partitioning explicit pool rpool auto auto auto mirror c0t1d0s0 c0t0d0s0 I thin
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
> I added some preliminary ZFS/flash information here: > > http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/flash/ Cool. Just a general comment: Since the term "flash" is quite overloaded, especially in the context of ZFS, I suggest that you use the term "flash archive" together whenever possible, to avoid confusion. Otherwise, you might hear IBM tell people "ZFS does not support flash". Regards -- Volker PS: Just joking, I'm sure IBM sales would never say such a thing! :-) -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Sun Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim Email: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 45 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J. H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
I added some preliminary ZFS/flash information here: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/flash/ This page includes extracts from the not-yet-released Solaris 10 ZFS Admin Guide. Let me know this if its not enough to get you rolling. Whatever comments/corrections are provided will be added to the upcoming Solaris 10 docs. Thanks, Cindy On 08/19/09 16:13, Lori Alt wrote: On 08/19/09 14:57, Kris Kasner wrote: Hi. First - Thanks very much for releasing this as a patch and not making us wait until U8. It's very much appreciated. Things we put on hold can start moving again which is a good thing. Is there further documentation on this yet? I just asked Cindy Swearingen, the tech writer for ZFS, about this and sadly, it appears that there isn't any documentation for this available outside of Sun yet. The documentation for using flash archives to set up systems with zfs roots won't be available until the release of U8. I will give you the very short summary and Cindy is going to look into putting some more information out on the zfs-boot page of the opensolaris website (which doesn't really make sense since this isnt' supported on OpenSolaris, but whatever). I haven't been able to find it, and it looks like most of the interesting stuff is in 'pfinstall' so I can't just go look and see how it works.. I have a couple of questions on how zfsroot interacts with flash install - I'm happy to go figure it out if you can point me at the docs.. Failing that, hopefully someone can help me answer the below questions. on our zfs root systems, we like to keep /var as a separate dataset on servers so we can monitor it's usage. We did that before with the line: bootenv installbe bename zfsroot dataset /var Bottom line: whatever the configuration is of the system that you use as the basis for generating the flash archive, that's the configuration that will exist on systems installed using the flar. If the original system has a separate /var, the systems created from it will have a separate /var. additional datasets I create in a finish script. Can a zfsroot flash installed system have a separate dataset for /var? It seems a little counter intuitive to me to say partitioning explicit when everything is going into a zfs pool with a single dataset - are there other profile tokens that make this. Yes, I know, but that's the way flash archive support works (even before zfs was added to it). One last thing - My flash installs are working, but I'm ending up with /tmp as a non tmpfs filesystem (no vfstab entry for it..) I can easily fix this in a postinstall/finish script, but if there is a reason it's not happening that can be fixed in my JS profile, that would be better. I don't know why you wouldn't have a separate /tmp. If you're sure that the system from which the flar is generated has a /tmp file system, but the system that results from the install of the flash archive does not have a separate /tmp, there might be a bug. Get back to me on it later if you confirm this. So here's the quick summary of how to do flash archive installs of systems with zfs root file systems: 1. Set up the system that you want to replicate or re-create. I.e. install a system with a zfs root file system and add whatever customizations you want to it. By default, ALL datasets in the root pool (except for swap and dump) are included in the flash archive, not just those that are part of the Solaris name space. 2. Use flarcreate to create the flash archive on the system. There is a new -D option that can be used (repeatedly, if you wish) on the command to exclude datasets from the archive. So an example command might be: # flarcreate -n ourU8 -D rpool/somedata /some-remote-directory/ourU8.flar 3. Set up the system you want to install for jumpstart install (however you do that). Use a profile something like this: install_type flash_install archive_location nfs schubert:/export/home/lalt/U8.flar partitioning explicit pool rpool auto auto auto mirror c0t1d0s0 c0t0d0s0 I think that covers the basics. Lori Thanks again. Kris Kasner Qualcomm Inc. Jul 9 at 16:41, Lori Alt wrote: On 07/09/09 17:25, Mark Michael wrote: Thanks for the info. Hope that the pfinstall changes to support zfs root flash jumpstarts can be extended to support luupgrade -f at some point soon. BTW, where can I find an example profile? do I just substitute in the install_type flash_install archive_location ... for install_type initial_install ?? Here's a sample: install_type flash_install archive_location nfs schubert:/export/home/lalt/mirror.flar partitioning explicit pool rpool auto auto auto mirror c0t1d0s0 c0t0d0s0 ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
On 08/19/09 14:57, Kris Kasner wrote: Hi. First - Thanks very much for releasing this as a patch and not making us wait until U8. It's very much appreciated. Things we put on hold can start moving again which is a good thing. Is there further documentation on this yet? I just asked Cindy Swearingen, the tech writer for ZFS, about this and sadly, it appears that there isn't any documentation for this available outside of Sun yet. The documentation for using flash archives to set up systems with zfs roots won't be available until the release of U8. I will give you the very short summary and Cindy is going to look into putting some more information out on the zfs-boot page of the opensolaris website (which doesn't really make sense since this isnt' supported on OpenSolaris, but whatever). I haven't been able to find it, and it looks like most of the interesting stuff is in 'pfinstall' so I can't just go look and see how it works.. I have a couple of questions on how zfsroot interacts with flash install - I'm happy to go figure it out if you can point me at the docs.. Failing that, hopefully someone can help me answer the below questions. on our zfs root systems, we like to keep /var as a separate dataset on servers so we can monitor it's usage. We did that before with the line: bootenv installbe bename zfsroot dataset /var Bottom line: whatever the configuration is of the system that you use as the basis for generating the flash archive, that's the configuration that will exist on systems installed using the flar. If the original system has a separate /var, the systems created from it will have a separate /var. additional datasets I create in a finish script. Can a zfsroot flash installed system have a separate dataset for /var? It seems a little counter intuitive to me to say partitioning explicit when everything is going into a zfs pool with a single dataset - are there other profile tokens that make this. Yes, I know, but that's the way flash archive support works (even before zfs was added to it). One last thing - My flash installs are working, but I'm ending up with /tmp as a non tmpfs filesystem (no vfstab entry for it..) I can easily fix this in a postinstall/finish script, but if there is a reason it's not happening that can be fixed in my JS profile, that would be better. I don't know why you wouldn't have a separate /tmp. If you're sure that the system from which the flar is generated has a /tmp file system, but the system that results from the install of the flash archive does not have a separate /tmp, there might be a bug. Get back to me on it later if you confirm this. So here's the quick summary of how to do flash archive installs of systems with zfs root file systems: 1. Set up the system that you want to replicate or re-create. I.e. install a system with a zfs root file system and add whatever customizations you want to it. By default, ALL datasets in the root pool (except for swap and dump) are included in the flash archive, not just those that are part of the Solaris name space. 2. Use flarcreate to create the flash archive on the system. There is a new -D option that can be used (repeatedly, if you wish) on the command to exclude datasets from the archive. So an example command might be: # flarcreate -n ourU8 -D rpool/somedata /some-remote-directory/ourU8.flar 3. Set up the system you want to install for jumpstart install (however you do that). Use a profile something like this: install_type flash_install archive_location nfs schubert:/export/home/lalt/U8.flar partitioning explicit pool rpool auto auto auto mirror c0t1d0s0 c0t0d0s0 I think that covers the basics. Lori Thanks again. Kris Kasner Qualcomm Inc. Jul 9 at 16:41, Lori Alt wrote: On 07/09/09 17:25, Mark Michael wrote: Thanks for the info. Hope that the pfinstall changes to support zfs root flash jumpstarts can be extended to support luupgrade -f at some point soon. BTW, where can I find an example profile? do I just substitute in the install_type flash_install archive_location ... for install_type initial_install ?? Here's a sample: install_type flash_install archive_location nfs schubert:/export/home/lalt/mirror.flar partitioning explicit pool rpool auto auto auto mirror c0t1d0s0 c0t0d0s0 ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Hi. First - Thanks very much for releasing this as a patch and not making us wait until U8. It's very much appreciated. Things we put on hold can start moving again which is a good thing. Is there further documentation on this yet? I haven't been able to find it, and it looks like most of the interesting stuff is in 'pfinstall' so I can't just go look and see how it works.. I have a couple of questions on how zfsroot interacts with flash install - I'm happy to go figure it out if you can point me at the docs.. Failing that, hopefully someone can help me answer the below questions. on our zfs root systems, we like to keep /var as a separate dataset on servers so we can monitor it's usage. We did that before with the line: bootenv installbe bename zfsroot dataset /var additional datasets I create in a finish script. Can a zfsroot flash installed system have a separate dataset for /var? It seems a little counter intuitive to me to say partitioning explicit when everything is going into a zfs pool with a single dataset - are there other profile tokens that make this. One last thing - My flash installs are working, but I'm ending up with /tmp as a non tmpfs filesystem (no vfstab entry for it..) I can easily fix this in a postinstall/finish script, but if there is a reason it's not happening that can be fixed in my JS profile, that would be better. Thanks again. Kris Kasner Qualcomm Inc. Jul 9 at 16:41, Lori Alt wrote: On 07/09/09 17:25, Mark Michael wrote: Thanks for the info. Hope that the pfinstall changes to support zfs root flash jumpstarts can be extended to support luupgrade -f at some point soon. BTW, where can I find an example profile? do I just substitute in the install_type flash_install archive_location ... for install_type initial_install ?? Here's a sample: install_type flash_install archive_location nfs schubert:/export/home/lalt/mirror.flar partitioning explicit pool rpool auto auto auto mirror c0t1d0s0 c0t0d0s0 ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Worked great during test jumpstart, thanks! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
On 07/09/09 17:25, Mark Michael wrote: Thanks for the info. Hope that the pfinstall changes to support zfs root flash jumpstarts can be extended to support luupgrade -f at some point soon. BTW, where can I find an example profile? do I just substitute in the install_type flash_install archive_location ... for install_type initial_install ?? Here's a sample: install_type flash_install archive_location nfs schubert:/export/home/lalt/mirror.flar partitioning explicit pool rpool auto auto auto mirror c0t1d0s0 c0t0d0s0 ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Thanks for the info. Hope that the pfinstall changes to support zfs root flash jumpstarts can be extended to support luupgrade -f at some point soon. BTW, where can I find an example profile? do I just substitute in the install_type flash_install archive_location ... for install_type initial_install ?? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Flash archive on zfs means archiving an entire root pool (minus any explicitly excluded datasets), not an individual BE. These types of flash archives can only be installed using Jumpstart and are intended to install an entire system, not an individual BE. Flash archives of a single BE could perhaps be implemented in the future. Lori On 07/09/09 09:56, Mark Michael wrote: I've been hoping to get my hands on patches that permit Sol10U7 to do a luupgrade -f of a ZFS root-based ABE since Solaris 10 10/08. Unfortunately, after applying patchids 119534-15 and 124630-26 to both the PBE and the miniroot of the OS image, I'm still getting the same "ERROR: Field 2 - Invalid disk name (insert_abe_name_here)". The flarcreate command I used was simply # flarcreate -n root_var_no_snap /export/fssnap/flars/root_var which created a flar file that was about 4 to 5 times the size of a UFS-based flar file. I then used the command # luupgrade -f -n be_d70 -s /export/fssnap/os_image \ > -a /export/fssnap/flars/root_var which then failed with the pfinstall diagnostic given above. What am I still doing wrong? ttfn mm mark.o.mich...@boeing.com mark.mich...@es.bss.boeing.com ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
I've been hoping to get my hands on patches that permit Sol10U7 to do a luupgrade -f of a ZFS root-based ABE since Solaris 10 10/08. Unfortunately, after applying patchids 119534-15 and 124630-26 to both the PBE and the miniroot of the OS image, I'm still getting the same "ERROR: Field 2 - Invalid disk name (insert_abe_name_here)". The flarcreate command I used was simply # flarcreate -n root_var_no_snap /export/fssnap/flars/root_var which created a flar file that was about 4 to 5 times the size of a UFS-based flar file. I then used the command # luupgrade -f -n be_d70 -s /export/fssnap/os_image \ > -a /export/fssnap/flars/root_var which then failed with the pfinstall diagnostic given above. What am I still doing wrong? ttfn mm mark.o.mich...@boeing.com mark.mich...@es.bss.boeing.com -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Thanks everyone for the patch IDs. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Enda O'Connor wrote: > Hi > for sparc > 119534-15 > 124630-26 > > > for x86 > 119535-15 > 124631-27 > > higher rev's of these will also suffice. > > Note these need to be applied to the miniroot of the jumpstart image so that > it can then install zfs flash archive. > please read the README notes in these for more specific instructions, > including instructions on miniroot patching. > > Enda > > Fredrich Maney wrote: >> >> Any idea what the Patch ID was? >> >> fpsm >> >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Bob >> Friesenhahn wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Jerry K wrote: >>> It has been a while since this has been discussed, and I am hoping that you can provide an update, or time estimate. As we are several months into Update 7, is there any chance of an Update 7 patch, or are we still waiting for Update 8. >>> >>> I saw that a Solaris 10 patch for supporting Flash archives on ZFS came >>> out >>> about a week ago. >>> >>> Bob >>> -- >>> Bob Friesenhahn >>> bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, >>> http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ >>> GraphicsMagick Maintainer, http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ >>> ___ >>> zfs-discuss mailing list >>> zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org >>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >>> >> ___ >> zfs-discuss mailing list >> zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > > ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Hi for sparc 119534-15 124630-26 for x86 119535-15 124631-27 higher rev's of these will also suffice. Note these need to be applied to the miniroot of the jumpstart image so that it can then install zfs flash archive. please read the README notes in these for more specific instructions, including instructions on miniroot patching. Enda Fredrich Maney wrote: Any idea what the Patch ID was? fpsm On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Jerry K wrote: It has been a while since this has been discussed, and I am hoping that you can provide an update, or time estimate. As we are several months into Update 7, is there any chance of an Update 7 patch, or are we still waiting for Update 8. I saw that a Solaris 10 patch for supporting Flash archives on ZFS came out about a week ago. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Bob, Patches that allow the creation and installation of a flash archive on a zpool are available: For SPARC: 119534-15 : fixes to the /usr/sbin/flarcreate and /usr/sbin/flar command 124630-26: updates to the install software For x86: 119535-15 : fixes to the /usr/sbin/flarcreate and /usr/sbin/flar command 124631-27: updates to the install software You'll have to patch the miniroot of your network boot server in order to have it work (http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/features/hub_articles/patchmini.jsp). Jnm. -- Bob Friesenhahn a écrit : On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Jerry K wrote: It has been a while since this has been discussed, and I am hoping that you can provide an update, or time estimate. As we are several months into Update 7, is there any chance of an Update 7 patch, or are we still waiting for Update 8. I saw that a Solaris 10 patch for supporting Flash archives on ZFS came out about a week ago. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Fredrich Maney wrote: Any idea what the Patch ID was? x86:119535-15 SPARC: 119534 Description of change "6690473 request to have flash support for ZFS root install". Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
On 07/08/09 13:43, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Jerry K wrote: It has been a while since this has been discussed, and I am hoping that you can provide an update, or time estimate. As we are several months into Update 7, is there any chance of an Update 7 patch, or are we still waiting for Update 8. I saw that a Solaris 10 patch for supporting Flash archives on ZFS came out about a week ago. Correct. These are the patches: sparc: 119534-15 : fixes to the /usr/sbin/flarcreate and /usr/sbin/flar command 124630-26: updates to the install software x86: 119535-15 : fixes to the /usr/sbin/flarcreate and /usr/sbin/flar command 124631-27: updates to the install software Lori --- Begin Message --- I received the following message about the patches for zfs flash archive support: The submitted patch has been received as release ready by raid.central and will be officially released to the Enterprise Services patch databases within 24 - 48 hours (except on weekends or holidays) or submitter will be further notified of any issues that prevent SunService from releasing it. Contact patch-mana...@sun.com if there are any further questions. The patches are: sparc: 119534-15 : fixes to the /usr/sbin/flarcreate and /usr/sbin/flar command 124630-26: updates to the install software x86: 119535-15 : fixes to the /usr/sbin/flarcreate and /usr/sbin/flar command 124631-27: updates to the install software A couple weeks ago, I sent out a mail about the content of these patches and about how they should be applied. I have included that message again, below. Lori --- I have two pieces of information to convey with this mail. The first is a summary of how flash archives work with zfs as a result of this patch. During the discussions of what should be implemented, there was some disagreement about what was needed. I want to summarize what finally got implemented, just so there is no confusion. Second, I want to bring everyone up to date on the state of the patch for zfs flash archive support. Overview of ZFS Flash Archive Functionality - With this new functionality, it is possible to - generate flash archives that can be used to install systems to boot off of ZFS root pools - perform Jumpstart initial installations of entire systems using these zfs-type flash archives - the flash archive backs up an entire root pool, not individual boot environments. Individual datasets within the pool can be excluded using a new -D option to flarcreate and flar. Here are the limitations: - Jumpstart installations only. No interactive install support for flash archive installs of zfs-rooted systems. No installation of individual boot environments using Live Upgrade. - Full initial install only. No differential flash installs. - No hybrid ufs/zfs archives. Existing (ufs-type) flash archives can still only be used to install ufs roots. The new zfs-type flash archive can only be used to install zfs-rooted systems. - Although the entire root pool (minus any explicitly excluded datasets) is archived and installed, only the BE booted at the time of the flarcreate will be usable after the flash archive is installed. (except for pools archived with the -R option,which can be used to archive a root pool other than the one currently booted). - The options to flarcreate and flar to include and exclude individual files in a flash archive is not support with zfs-type flash archives. Only entire datasets may be excluded from a zfs flar. - The new pool created by the flash archive install will have the same name as the pool that was used to generate the flash archive. Status of the ZFS Flash Archive Patches --- I have received test versions of the patches for zfs flash archive support (CR 6690473). Those patches are: sparc: 119534-15 : fixes to the /usr/sbin/flarcreate and /usr/sbin/flar command 124630-26: updates to the install software x86: 119535-15 : fixes to the /usr/sbin/flarcreate and /usr/sbin/flar command 124631-27: updates to the install software The patches are applied as follows: The flarcreate/flar patch (119534-15/119535-15) must be applied to the system where the flash archive is generated. The install software patch (124630-26/124631-27) must be applied to the install medium (probably a netinstall image), since that is where the install software resides. A system being installed with a flash archive image will have to be booted from a patched image so that the install software can recognize the zfs-type flash archive and handle it correctly. I verified these patches on both sparc and x86 platforms, and as applied to both Update 6 and Update 7 systems and images. On Update 6, it is also necessary to apply the kernel update (KU) patch to the netinstall image in order for the install to work. The KU patch is sparc
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Any idea what the Patch ID was? fpsm On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Jerry K wrote: > >> It has been a while since this has been discussed, and I am hoping that >> you can provide an update, or time estimate. As we are several months into >> Update 7, is there any chance of an Update 7 patch, or are we still waiting >> for Update 8. > > I saw that a Solaris 10 patch for supporting Flash archives on ZFS came out > about a week ago. > > Bob > -- > Bob Friesenhahn > bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ > GraphicsMagick Maintainer, http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ > ___ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Jerry K wrote: It has been a while since this has been discussed, and I am hoping that you can provide an update, or time estimate. As we are several months into Update 7, is there any chance of an Update 7 patch, or are we still waiting for Update 8. I saw that a Solaris 10 patch for supporting Flash archives on ZFS came out about a week ago. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Hello Lori, It has been a while since this has been discussed, and I am hoping that you can provide an update, or time estimate. As we are several months into Update 7, is there any chance of an Update 7 patch, or are we still waiting for Update 8. Also, can you share the CR # that you mentioned in your previous email (below), so I can read further into this? thanks again, Jerry Kemp Lori Alt wrote: Latest is that this will go into an early build of Update 8 and be available as a patch shortly thereafter (shortly after it's putback, that is. The patch doesn't have to wait for U8 to be released.) I will update the CR with this information. Lori On 02/18/09 09:12, Jerry K wrote: Hello Lori, Any update to this issue, and can you speculate as to if it will be a patch to Solaris 10u6, or part of 10u7? Thanks again, Jerry Lori Alt wrote: This is in the process of being resolved right now. Stay tuned for when it will be available. It might be a patch to Update 6. In the meantime, you might try this: http://blogs.sun.com/scottdickson/entry/flashless_system_cloning_with_zfs - Lori On 01/09/09 12:28, Jerry K wrote: I understand that currently, at least under Solaris 10u6, it is not possible to jumpstart a new system with a zfs root using a flash archive as a source. Can anyone comment as to whether this restriction will pass in the near term, or if this is a while out (6+ months) before this will be possible? Thanks, Jerry ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
On 02/18/09 21:24, Jerry Kemp wrote: Hello Lori, Thank you again for the quick reply. Unfortunately, I had mistakenly anticipated a somewhat quicker integration than Solaris 10u8. Approaching this from another angle, would it be possible for me to build a jumpstart server using a current Solaris Nevada b107/SXCE, and to ultimately jumpstart Solaris 10u6 clients with a ZFS root using a flash archive as a source? No, you need install software that has been modified to understand how to unpack a flash archive onto a system that has been created with a zfs pool. There is this: http://blogs.sun.com/scottdickson/entry/flashless_system_cloning_with_zfs It's not the same as flash archive support, but it accomplishes some of the same goals. - Lori thank you, Jerry Kemp On 02/18/09 10:40, Lori Alt wrote: Latest is that this will go into an early build of Update 8 and be available as a patch shortly thereafter (shortly after it's putback, that is. The patch doesn't have to wait for U8 to be released.) I will update the CR with this information. Lori On 02/18/09 09:12, Jerry K wrote: Hello Lori, Any update to this issue, and can you speculate as to if it will be a patch to Solaris 10u6, or part of 10u7? Thanks again, Jerry Lori Alt wrote: This is in the process of being resolved right now. Stay tuned for when it will be available. It might be a patch to Update 6. In the meantime, you might try this: http://blogs.sun.com/scottdickson/entry/flashless_system_cloning_with_zfs - Lori On 01/09/09 12:28, Jerry K wrote: I understand that currently, at least under Solaris 10u6, it is not possible to jumpstart a new system with a zfs root using a flash archive as a source. Can anyone comment as to whether this restriction will pass in the near term, or if this is a while out (6+ months) before this will be possible? Thanks, ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Hello Jerry, Thursday, February 19, 2009, 4:34:16 AM, you wrote: JK> Hello Lori, JK> Thank you again for the quick reply. JK> Unfortunately, I had mistakenly anticipated a somewhat quicker JK> integration than Solaris 10u8. JK> Approaching this from another angle, would it be possible for me to JK> build a jumpstart server using a current Solaris Nevada b107/SXCE, and JK> to ultimately jumpstart Solaris 10u6 clients with a ZFS root using a JK> flash archive as a source? It won't work - it doesn't really matter what OS your jumpstart server is running - it might be even Linux. Basically all it does is assigning a client an IP address and serving files over tftp and nfs. The support for what you are asking for has to be in a client's miniroot served by jumpstart server. So if you want to use a clean S10 install it doesn't matter what OS is on your jumpstart server. btw: Assuming the required support is already in Nevada, technically speaking you could try to use a miniroot from Nevada, hack it a little bit and get S10 installed - there will be many issues I believe and it's probably not worth it. -- Best regards, Robert Milkowski http://milek.blogspot.com ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Hello Lori, Thank you again for the quick reply. Unfortunately, I had mistakenly anticipated a somewhat quicker integration than Solaris 10u8. Approaching this from another angle, would it be possible for me to build a jumpstart server using a current Solaris Nevada b107/SXCE, and to ultimately jumpstart Solaris 10u6 clients with a ZFS root using a flash archive as a source? thank you, Jerry Kemp On 02/18/09 10:40, Lori Alt wrote: Latest is that this will go into an early build of Update 8 and be available as a patch shortly thereafter (shortly after it's putback, that is. The patch doesn't have to wait for U8 to be released.) I will update the CR with this information. Lori On 02/18/09 09:12, Jerry K wrote: Hello Lori, Any update to this issue, and can you speculate as to if it will be a patch to Solaris 10u6, or part of 10u7? Thanks again, Jerry Lori Alt wrote: This is in the process of being resolved right now. Stay tuned for when it will be available. It might be a patch to Update 6. In the meantime, you might try this: http://blogs.sun.com/scottdickson/entry/flashless_system_cloning_with_zfs - Lori On 01/09/09 12:28, Jerry K wrote: I understand that currently, at least under Solaris 10u6, it is not possible to jumpstart a new system with a zfs root using a flash archive as a source. Can anyone comment as to whether this restriction will pass in the near term, or if this is a while out (6+ months) before this will be possible? Thanks, ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Hello Lori, Thank you again for the quick reply. Unfortunately, I had mistakenly anticipated a somewhat quicker integration than Solaris 10u8. Approaching this from another angle, would it be possible for me to build a jumpstart server using a current Solaris Nevada b107/SXCE, and to ultimately jumpstart Solaris 10u6 clients with a ZFS root using a flash archive as a source? thank you, Jerry Kemp On 02/18/09 10:40, Lori Alt wrote: > Latest is that this will go into an early build of Update 8 > and be available as a patch shortly thereafter (shortly > after it's putback, that is. The patch doesn't have to wait for U8 > to be released.) > > I will update the CR with this information. > > Lori > > > On 02/18/09 09:12, Jerry K wrote: >> Hello Lori, >> >> Any update to this issue, and can you speculate as to if it will be a patch to Solaris 10u6, or part of 10u7? >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Jerry >> >> >> Lori Alt wrote: >>> >>> This is in the process of being resolved right now. Stay tuned >>> for when it will be available. It might be a patch to Update 6. >>> >>> In the meantime, you might try this: >>> >>> http://blogs.sun.com/scottdickson/entry/flashless_system_cloning_with_zfs >>> >>> - Lori >>> >>> >>> On 01/09/09 12:28, Jerry K wrote: I understand that currently, at least under Solaris 10u6, it is not possible to jumpstart a new system with a zfs root using a flash archive as a source. Can anyone comment as to whether this restriction will pass in the near term, or if this is a while out (6+ months) before this will be possible? Thanks, ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Latest is that this will go into an early build of Update 8 and be available as a patch shortly thereafter (shortly after it's putback, that is. The patch doesn't have to wait for U8 to be released.) I will update the CR with this information. Lori On 02/18/09 09:12, Jerry K wrote: Hello Lori, Any update to this issue, and can you speculate as to if it will be a patch to Solaris 10u6, or part of 10u7? Thanks again, Jerry Lori Alt wrote: This is in the process of being resolved right now. Stay tuned for when it will be available. It might be a patch to Update 6. In the meantime, you might try this: http://blogs.sun.com/scottdickson/entry/flashless_system_cloning_with_zfs - Lori On 01/09/09 12:28, Jerry K wrote: I understand that currently, at least under Solaris 10u6, it is not possible to jumpstart a new system with a zfs root using a flash archive as a source. Can anyone comment as to whether this restriction will pass in the near term, or if this is a while out (6+ months) before this will be possible? Thanks, Jerry ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
Hello Lori, Any update to this issue, and can you speculate as to if it will be a patch to Solaris 10u6, or part of 10u7? Thanks again, Jerry Lori Alt wrote: This is in the process of being resolved right now. Stay tuned for when it will be available. It might be a patch to Update 6. In the meantime, you might try this: http://blogs.sun.com/scottdickson/entry/flashless_system_cloning_with_zfs - Lori On 01/09/09 12:28, Jerry K wrote: I understand that currently, at least under Solaris 10u6, it is not possible to jumpstart a new system with a zfs root using a flash archive as a source. Can anyone comment as to whether this restriction will pass in the near term, or if this is a while out (6+ months) before this will be possible? Thanks, Jerry ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root, jumpstart and flash archives
This is in the process of being resolved right now. Stay tuned for when it will be available. It might be a patch to Update 6. In the meantime, you might try this: http://blogs.sun.com/scottdickson/entry/flashless_system_cloning_with_zfs - Lori On 01/09/09 12:28, Jerry K wrote: > I understand that currently, at least under Solaris 10u6, it is not > possible to jumpstart a new system with a zfs root using a flash archive > as a source. > > Can anyone comment as to whether this restriction will pass in the near > term, or if this is a while out (6+ months) before this will be possible? > > Thanks, > > Jerry > ___ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
