Re: [Zope] Zope/Editor problems
J Cameron Cooper wrote: Not logging errors on startup failures (in debug mode) is a problem that causes a lot of consternation. I recall hearing once why it is that way, but don't quite recall. I'm sure I could search the archives and find out. Something to do with security. The goat that usually gets waved to scare people when something is dumb and barely justifiable ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope/Editor problems
You don't give enough informations (logs, tracebacks etc) for us to help you. The problem is that nothing is written in the logs. In the Epoz case, Zope just crashes during startup. And in the Kupu case I get the errors when I click on any of the tabs in the editor object. I have installed a new 2.8.3 instance and installed Epoz 2.0.1 in that. Zope still crashes without any logs or traces (I put both on them on 'all' for this). ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope/Editor problems
On 10/26/05, Håkan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't give enough informations (logs, tracebacks etc) for us to help you. The problem is that nothing is written in the logs. In the Epoz case, Zope just crashes during startup. It crashes, without any error messages? Really? Have you turned on debug mode? -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope/Editor problems
On Oct 26, 2005, at 13:31, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 10/26/05, Håkan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't give enough informations (logs, tracebacks etc) for us to help you. The problem is that nothing is written in the logs. In the Epoz case, Zope just crashes during startup. It crashes, without any error messages? Really? Have you turned on debug mode? Yes, debug mode is on. My personal guess is that both Epoz and Kupu has hidden prereqs that the documentation does not say, or that I simply missed somehow. With my old installation that has Plone installed (but not used), Zope can start with Kupu installed, but the bare bones installation crashes during startup if that is installed. My $INSTANCE_HOME/Products dir contains the following (before trying with editors): * LocalFS * TextIndexNG2 * README.txt ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope/Editor problems
On Oct 26, 2005, at 17:00, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 10/26/05, Håkan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My personal guess is that both Epoz and Kupu has hidden prereqs that the documentation does not say, or that I simply missed somehow. You should still get an error message. Do you start the server with bin/runzope or bin/zopectl start? zopectl start ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope/Editor problems
On 10/26/05, Håkan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 26, 2005, at 17:00, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 10/26/05, Håkan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My personal guess is that both Epoz and Kupu has hidden prereqs that the documentation does not say, or that I simply missed somehow. You should still get an error message. Do you start the server with bin/runzope or bin/zopectl start? zopectl start OK, use bin/runzope or zopectl fg, and you will surely get the error message. I'm a bit surprised it doens't end up in the logs as well, but maybe that's expected. -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope/Editor problems
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 10/26/05, Håkan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 26, 2005, at 17:00, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 10/26/05, Håkan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My personal guess is that both Epoz and Kupu has hidden prereqs that the documentation does not say, or that I simply missed somehow. You should still get an error message. Do you start the server with bin/runzope or bin/zopectl start? zopectl start OK, use bin/runzope or zopectl fg, and you will surely get the error message. I'm a bit surprised it doens't end up in the logs as well, but maybe that's expected. If you don't run in debug mode the error will be written to the logs (at least in Zope 2.8), presumably because Zope gets to finish starting up and sets up logging. Not logging errors on startup failures (in debug mode) is a problem that causes a lot of consternation. I recall hearing once why it is that way, but don't quite recall. I'm sure I could search the archives and find out. --jcc -- Building Websites with Plone http://plonebook.packtpub.com/ Enfold Systems, LLC http://www.enfoldsystems.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope/Editor problems
Håkan Johansson a écrit : I need some sort of content editor and have looked at both Epoz and Kupu. My problem is that I can't get any of them to work. If I install Epoz, Zope crashes without any error messages. Have you looked in the logs ? (snip) Are these editors even usable by me? I had no problem using Epoz or Kupu. I found the Kupu documentation a bit cryptic too. As I am very new to Zope, I want a simple functioning example how to edit a simple document object. Use the code, Luke. Silva uses Kupu, so having a look at Silva's code should get you started. Epoz has this but I could not try it because of the crash. I have googled around a lot, but I haven't found anything that resembles my problems. You don't give enough informations (logs, tracebacks etc) for us to help you. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
