Here's the playlist, and link to download for today's Equinox episode.
There won't be another one for a couple of weeks while I'm off
frolicking in England! Enjoy! :)
To download just click the link on the Equinox page -
http://www.gerald-matrix.com/equinox.htm
Cheers!
08-08-04
Artist - Title
-- Original Message --
From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How many of you actually use samples in your music. I'm just
curious.
i jack drum hits and thats it. no loops, just hits. ive ripped
little tiny vocal bits before, but they were meant to be
-- Original Message --
From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ofcourse, all this sampling causes a lot of noise in the
background, wich is
GREAT. That way, I don´t have to add a noise channel myself ;-)
I like my stuff a bit dirty.
i like it dirty too. i
-- Original Message --
From: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Now the article linked earlier opens doors to claims like i know
this
guy sampled this sound from me and used fx on it - i mean anyone
can
claim that - it doesn't really matter if it's true
it's illegal, but unenforceable.
anyway, i like doing things that are illegal
my country was founded by criminals. our de facto national anthem is about
a sheep-stealing vagabond. our national hero is a bank robbing bushranger.
i've always preferred an illegal warehouse party to a legal night
Learn hoq to make your own music or pay the guy that went thru all the trouble
to get it out there. Sampling is stealing. It's not paying tribute, or
showing respect. Maybe if you were sampling and giving away your music, but
you are not. You are struggling just like the guy you sampled
On 8 Sep 2004, at 23:08, Matt MacQueen wrote:
On Sep 8, 2004, at 4:27 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:
It's so simple... Detroit Techno = Kurzweil K2000 period :)
yeah, i tend to agree, except that plenty of detroit techno came out
before 1991... :)
There was a promo release of that in
this is like a right-wing fundamentalist approach to music, wicked...unique mix
of hatred, bitterness, ignorance and misplaced optimismexquisitely stupid
even. lovely!
build your own instruments, invent your own musical notation, and come up with
a unqiuely tuned scale while you're at it!
I missed that for ages until this thread appeared about a a year
ago..
-Original Message-
From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 September 2004 22:23
To: Matt MacQueen
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Emanon
Emanon appeared first on MS 15 as a nameless track
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containing uncleared (but
unrecognizable) samples.
how on earth would they ever catch you?
surely it's virtually impossible right?
I don't see what this law changes that much.
But then I always miss the point.
No jokes today 313 I promise, although I do have a bit of a hangover.
So might go a
(eman on = no name,
backwards)
ahh, thats what I like about here.
you learn something everyday.
: )
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my country was founded by criminals.
our national hero is a bank robbing bushranger.
our de facto national anthem is about
a sheep-stealing vagabond
Oh man.
I'm loving it here already today.
I've tried to point this out to several Aussies James.
Only thing it ever got me was a black eye.
Seems to be a thing with Detroiters and spelling backwards.
Im sure Kenny Larkin has recorded as Yennek,nearly Kenny backwards. But cant
remember the track.
Anyone for anymore.. ?
Rav
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 September 2004 10:00
Anyone for anymore.. ?
hey 69 spells er, 69 backwards.
god I'm good.
; )
or ross154 translates to ssor bum
(or something)
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Chicago's DJ Nephets (Stephen to his mum) gets up to the same sorts of
shenanigans, so I guess it spans the mid-west and isn't just restricted to
Detroit!
Brendan
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From: Mann, Ravinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 September 2004 10:05
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
i would say 69 becomes 96?
alex bond backwards is aeohrraid labrev
;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:10 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Emanon
Anyone for anymore.. ?
hey 69 spells er, 69 backwards.
god I'm good.
; )
or
i would say 69 becomes 96?
hmm.
I was never that good at attention to detail.
p.s. rob, it's bog gib ; )
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a to the r to the f !
Just looking at yesterdays messages. Seems like Alex had a quite day at the
office : )
I got a quite morning today so plently of reading 313 and LD.
Rav
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From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 September 2004 11:16
Alex,
Works if you stand on your head.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 September 2004 10:19
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Emanon
i would say 69 becomes 96?
hmm.
I was never that good at attention to detail.
p.s. rob, it's
the way i see it, there is nothing new to this judgement.
every musical piece is subject to several rights.
the composition of the music is protected by copyright / droit d'auteur;
the text of the vocals is also protected by copyright / droit d'auteur (so
you can have several copyright owners
Whilst not wanting to to resurrect the 'sampling vs orginality' thread etc,
let me throw this out there:
It seems to me that in our little piece of musical endeavour (at least)
samples tend to be used in such a way that you can't recognize them from the
source material - or it's v. difficult to
While I was in London, I walked past this shop and spotted an old face
magazine from '84.
It's the one where the cover is a mock-up of the streetsounds electro
comps.
Big feature issue on Electro, loads of interesting shizz. So I picked it
up, only £2.
Anyhow, the editorial informs me that in
Is that the June 1984 one? I've got that book which has a big selection of
Face articles on clubbing and dance music culture, and it includes a big
electro article from 1984 by David Toop and Paul Rambali - I'm guessing
you've got the original issue?
Competition is fierce, reputations are waiting
Hey Brendan.
Is that the June 1984 one?
Not 100% sure, it's at home
I've got that book which has a big selection of
Face articles on clubbing and dance music culture, and it includes a big
electro article from 1984 by David Toop and Paul Rambali
I recognise the name D.Toop, must be that
The new ruling basically says that samples of ANY length need to be
licensed.
So you could, for example, take a recording, and make notes out of single
cycle samples, and it would be illegal.
they already cant enforce the laws that exist today
How many of you actually use samples in your
1986? 20 years? does that mean next year's the last of all this?
I'm trying to calm my outrageous clubbing ways at present but perhaps I'd
better make the most of it before it goes.
On Sep 9, 2004, at 4:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how on earth would they ever catch you?
surely it's virtually impossible right?
Since so many people have been asking this:
There is probably some watermarking algorithm that can be mixed with an
audio signal. It would repeat a lot throughout
I think it would be almost impossible to come up with a watermark for
audio that couldn't easily be blurred beyond recognition by fx, granular
sampling, changing bitrate etc ...
I read an article somewhere citing that previous attempts at digital
watermarking on audio have proved to be
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 07:05:55 -0400, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 9, 2004, at 4:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how on earth would they ever catch you?
surely it's virtually impossible right?
Since so many people have been asking this:
There is probably some watermarking
stick with vinyl sources - you get all that dirt and grime in there too
MEK
Matt Kane's
-- Original Message --
From: Pascoe Mr S M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think it would be almost impossible to come up with a watermark
for
audio that couldn't easily be blurred beyond recognition by fx,
granular
sampling, changing bitrate etc ...
I read an
-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The only reason you hate this ruling so much is that now you
realize your own creative level is almost non existent, and youre
screwed
whats it like being green with warts living under a bridge?
tom
The only reason you hate this ruling so much is that now you
realize your own creative level is almost non existent, and youre
screwed
ha!
I missed this comment!
Surely you're not suggesting for example that, say, Carl Craig is not
creative?
He doesn't do that much with his samples.
Alex
just following on from this topic, I found an interview with David Toop.
(the writer of said electro article from '84)
http://www.djhistory.com/books/archiveInterviewDisplay.php?interview_id=34
enjoy!
also, the other interviews on that site are EXCELLENT
Hello.
After help.
Mr Nick Hardie, formerly of this list (and Liverpool)
(does t-funk with Scott). Is working in Canada, Toronto to be precise, and
was wondering if anyone knew of any clubs or what have you?
Even better, maybe a link to a city listings guide?
Can anyone help?
His email is
I had a copy of 'jockey slut' from 1987 when it had rhythim is rhythim
the dance just came out
'all rather weird sounding, almost as if it had been played on a
succession of drains' was the review
made me laugh took me 2 years to actually buy the record tho.
p
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I had a copy of 'jockey slut' from 1987
not the jockey slut that just went bust though no?
didn't know there was another one...
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There wasn't another one - it started off as a fanzine - I remember buying it
in clothes shops in Leeds in the early 90s
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 3:57 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) The Face
There wasn't another one - it started off as a fanzine - I remember buying
it in clothes shops in Leeds in the early 90s
I know, but I'm relatively sure it wasn't going in '87.
maybe I'm wrong tho'
Paul Placid said it was called Jocks then, but I don't reckon it was johnno
and paul, I don't
trouser press? ;)
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From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 12:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
There wasn't another one - it started off as a fanzine - I
87 does seem way too early
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
There wasn't another one - it started off as a fanzine - I remember
87 does seem way too early
It is I think.
Paul,
Have a look for us if you know where it is
Ta!
Alex
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On Sep 9, 2004, at 4:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's the one where the cover is a mock-up of the streetsounds electro
comps.
i think i might have this issue, found it in a pile at a garage sale...
is the cover article called New Fresh Electro or something like
that? I was going to
Mann, Ravinder wrote:
Seems to be a thing with Detroiters and spelling backwards.
Im sure Kenny Larkin has recorded as Yennek,nearly Kenny backwards. But
cant
remember the track.
Anyone for anymore.. ?
there's one or two records by claude young on utensil i think, credited to :
david
well said, J.T. I knew somebody else on the list would voice my opinion before
I got a chance.
The granularity in today's music production software such as Ableton and
Cubase, coupled with both software and outboard hardware effects and
processing, can easily alter a short sample of a song
but it gets simpler than that. it's basic audio theory. a sample can have
unique qualities (as it can be chopped, reversed, etc -- you have the ability
to deconstruct and alter envelopes that is impossible with real playing --
it's a recording) that can not be performed by any other instrument.
anagrams are popular too.
Nico Awsventin is almost Vince Watson, guess who produced it?
:)
-Original Message-
From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 September 2004 10:14
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Emanon
Chicago's DJ Nephets (Stephen to his mum) gets up
MOOG the new feature-length documentary film directed by Hans Fjellestad,
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On Sep 9, 2004, at 9:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
just following on from this topic, I found an interview with David
Toop.
(the writer of said electro article from '84)
I may have deleted it but I think someone just mentioned the book that
compiles some articles from The Face. It's
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