i'm unsubscribing for a couple of months as i won't be properly online.
but i'll be back!
john harvey (D5)
i've had loads of these recently - but norten sorts them out
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From: "Matt Chester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: (313) viruses
>
>
> I'd be careful even with that method to be honest, as some of these
v
yeah its the horn player, but the music is kinda future hip hop synth jazz.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "john harvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Intergalactic jazz-rock (Detroit Expe
oh, you should definately check out "till bronner" - just discovered this
myself!
> so any suggestions for good fusion jazz/rock with enough funk in it to
keep
> it steering clear of smooth jazz?
you could also check out pat metheny, tracks like:-
proof
tears inside
full circle
red sky
third wind
some of it is a bit weird though.
i'm getting in to some really driving modern
i discovered that rice crispies are made from rice
> http://www.cisco-records.co.jp/cgi/item_detail.php?qId=100326
sounds really good!
it's colour - color is the american spelling
> its' spelled 'color', not 'colour'
>
>
> -wankers ;)
>
>
>
> On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, john harvey wrote:
>
> > we all know that white is not a colour but your remark is pedanti
>"it's getting noisy in here"
should appeal to jeff mills fans then
this is a joke.
we all know that white is not a colour but your remark is pedantic as it
doesn't relate to or change the argument in any way.
once again, white is not a colour...white is no colour, black is all. thats
the point i think of blue room vs white room
well, your statement seemed to be backing th
> "you would also have no sense of change, and no other information if the
> room was completely black or blue or green or yellow or red or orange."
>
> Absolutely, it's the uniformity that is key. Where did I state otherwise?
well, your statement seemed to be backing the argument that the colour
> We are now verging on the 313 equivalent of debating the number of angels
> it's possible to fit on the tip of a pinhead!
4!
you were the one imposing - you're telling me not to comment
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From: "Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'john harvey'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, Apr
hange?
-Original Message-
From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 14:53
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) new Mills
Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-)
"Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the
design
to re
> Right, right, I see...it's "diss Mills time" again!!
> At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do
> things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!!
> Take from it what you want.
> At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all -
Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-)
"Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the
design
to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time"
This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation
where
you are i
> everything he does seems to HAVE to have a concept or a reason, and, at
> times it comes across like he makes it all up after he's made the music to
> market it better. (to my un-cultured eyes anyway)
reading the last couple of mails i'd have to agree - does anyone fall for
this bullsh*t?
> I think you're still missing the point. The point is not to "not
> categorize", but that categorization is in and of itself, something that
> promotes closed-mindedness.
i think that YOU are missing the point. catagorisation is not optional - it
is an inate, fundamental and essential part of th
> "Detroit techno sucks"
there is nothing wrong with this statement - he may have heard it all and
doesn't like detroit techno. the catagory of detroit techno is not
problematic - he is using it to tell us what kind of music he doesn't like.
if he doesn't really know what he is talking about then
catagarisation is something that human beings do automatically - it's in our
nature, and the reason we do it is for convenience and efficiency. In other
words it makes life alot easier. How could we communicate on this list if we
didn't do it? I might want to say "i don't like hard-loop techno", an
ssify techno by categories,
>
yes you can.
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, john harvey wrote:
>
> > it is unbelievable how so many people on this list take things
completely
> > the wrong way, and totally out of context, the statement below being a
great
> > example.
it is unbelievable how so many people on this list take things completely
the wrong way, and totally out of context, the statement below being a great
example.
> The key phrase in that being "stuff that Brandan Nelson thinks is good
> techno". Sorry, but there may be other people with differing
- but any reduction in noise
> that might potentially lose us valuable contributors is worth it,
what might be noise to you may be important for someone else - who are you
to say what noise is?
fu*king unsubscribe then
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From: "David Powers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: (313) things / BC re-releases
> I'm sorry, BUT if people are going to keep posting this kind of stuff
(JOKES) I'm
> My live set from the Detroit gig on March 13 at Panacea (with Paul
> Keeley and Luomo) is now online.
this is a great mix dennis, can you post a playlist please?
cheers, john
:]
cheers, nice mix!
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From: "josh23" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:58 PM
Subject: (313) ..::new mix available::..
> hey all. i'm starting up a little project for myself to put out a new mix
> every month and just post it up
why don't you just f k off
Can everyone who does not want to see shake play at their party raise
there hand?
Thank you...
On 13-mrt-04, at 0:00, Mark S. Krüx wrote:
> Shake, Herbert and Dan Bell [DJ]
>
> Phuture Vs. Sendex [Live]
>
> Afterparty line-upto be determined;)
>
> --
>
> No
and what about everone's 2nd techno record?
techno - the new dance sound of detroit
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From: "Mann, Ravinder [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:57 PM
Subject: (313) first techno record
> Just out of interestWhat was the first techno record you bought ?
> > "until my heart stops" is gorgeous! classic classic detroit via
> > holland techno...10+ years old and still fresh for sure!
yeah - this is really good!!!
my fav band is "the handsome family"
check out their last 3 albums.
john
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To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:25 AM
Subject: (313) bands
> Hello folks.
>
> I'm all buzzing this morning as I saw one of my f
don't worry i get it!
:]
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From: "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: (313) german to english translation plea
rockenerem Beat aber bleibt ebenso
in dieser wunderbaren Welt der Einheit von Synthesizersounds und Beats, die
hier mit Harmoniewechseln noch einen Hauch Oldschool zur peitschenden 808
Snare bekommen. Brilliante Platte. http://www.digital-soul.co.uk bleed *
many thanks,
john harvey
http://www.nomorewords.net/forcefield/radio.html
there you go - but it often doesn't work - MARSEL!!
its the 2nd one down
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From: "Dave Cronin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'john harvey'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; &qu
i just deleted the playlist - what is the "just happened that way" track?
john
:]
happy new year all!
the peel seamus delsin mix won for me
> > Then you expose one group to one set of stimuli, and expose the other
> > group to some sort of placebo.
comparing hip hop to a band like placebo is a silly idea.
(stupid joke)
yeah that's definately correct ken, the best thing about machine music is
the contradiction between machines and soul; the amount of soul you get is
made more remarkable by the knowledge and acceptance of the fact that it's
coming from machines.
don't forget the fantastic "no way back" by adonis. classic 808 programming
at its best.
any uk list members watching the snooker? what is the slightly cheesy skippy
foreign house track that's played during the player stats/info bit?
i heard a better mix of this on hoiliday this year.
john
another good night! well done to brendan and guy and all the other djs.
it should go on longer!
john
you can hear a bit at clone - the 1st one sounds really good!
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From: "Ken Odeluga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Drexciya haters delete
> > Lab Rat XL - Mice Or Cyborg (Clone: CLP31 - 23445,
mmm..,
i'm eating a curry right now - it's better than techno!
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From: "Tom Churchill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jason Brunton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Curries
thanks for the suggestions, i got hold of a copy of traktor and its really
good, cheers.
john
:]
does anyone know what the best software is for DJing mp3s/wav files.
i'm not too bothered about beat-matching, i just need to be able to cue up a
2nd mp3 and fade out/in.
cheers,
john
:]
voice of grandmother - red planet?
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From: "Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Revise in suggestion for techno music to be used in
wedding march?
I'd say the fir
actually, food is on topic; if there was no food, there would be no techno.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:48 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Stupid OT, Completely
> On Nov 5, 2003, at 7:00 PM, john harvey wrote:
>
> > do they do curries?
>
> yes and apparently fairly well from what i've heard :)
i'm gonna make a curry tonight. i fancy one now!
do they do curries?
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From: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: Re: (313) OT: British Airways offering $100 each way US-London
for next 48 hours
> God, I really hate to fu
suggesting that you can only have soul in your music if it's free is a bit
insulting to all the soulful labels and artists that do make money.
its not a question of "trading soul for money". many artists never
compromise and make money.
anyway, for financial gain surely the compromise should be the
> And I feel that as globalisation calcifies in this century, the
> polarities which seem to be concomitant with it (again, I make no
> claims about causality, although I do have my personal views ;-) will
> become more pronounced, so the need for people to have commodity-priced
> music will o
i don't think that genuine artists expect to make vast amounts of money.
the ones that do make alot, do so because they've sold alot of records.so if
you believe in capitalism and supply & demand, then you would have to
conclude that they do indeed deserve the sums they get.
of course people like m
if you get to hear the track for free three times, you could cheat by
recording, to say, a stand alone cd recorder through the analogue input
whilst you're auditioning the track.
of course the use of d/a & a/d converters would reduce sound quality a
miniscule amount, but you wouldn't be able to tel
ha ha,
no honestly - I like off topic.
john
p.s. i am into hip hop - dmx / khia - hardcore stuff
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Does the Surgeon..
>
> >anyone heard the latest slipkno
There was also a long discussion about Madchester recently.
All sorts of things are discussed on this list - I should know - I am the
King Of OT!
look - forget it! who am i to say what can and can't be discussed!
anyone heard the latest slipknot?
:]
> not sure what this mix was all about, as a matter of fact i dont even like
techno very much any more but i have seen many a post on here that does not
> relate to 313 (or any techno) but has been constructive
> ease up
don't get me wrong - i don't think this list should just be about detroit
tec
detroit techno doesn't just come from detroit, so you're right - it's not
about an area code, it's about a type of music.
john
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From: "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "john harvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313&qu
well to my understanding it supposed to be about detroit techno.
john
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From: "McAllister, Nic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'john harvey'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, Oct
> >really command 2 days worth of solid 313 postings
>
> Basically yes.
basically no.
and based on the mix posted the other day, its not 313 related.
anyone going to the telegraph thing tomorrow night?
john
:]
well said!
:]
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From: "Placid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 9:36 AM
Subject: (313) Does the Surgeon..
> really command 2 days worth of solid 313 postings
>
> placid
>
>
I'm taping that!
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From: "Tom Churchill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:07 PM
Subject: (313) It gets weirder...
> ...now Kodwo Eshun (author of More Brilliant Than The Sun) is one of the
> talking heads discussing
nice selection
thanks!
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From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:57 PM
Subject: (313) new mix online
> so yeah i did this mix last week just messing around with a small
> stack of records i took with
magazines are changing too; the free cd you used to get was always
mainstream dance/trance/prog house.
sales are dropping - ministry of sound mag has folded, so dj mag etc are
runnung back towards the underground with their tails between their legs.
!
john
great to meet everyone, really good night!
fabric was good too.
john
;]
> whatever u think of dave clarke, u gotta love this video clip of him :)
> http://www.twstd.nl/streams/dave%20clarke%20suprise%20set.ram
> http://temp.muertamente.com/dave_clarke_having_good_day.wmv
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ha! great clips!
(happy mondays)
> >The time I saw them they were
> >the stiffest most drugged out band of losers I had ever heard.
this is how real bands are supposed to be
the mondays were fantastic
and their music was great
someone should do a really early acid mix
:]
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From: "Ronny Pries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:27 AM
Subject: AW: (313) GPO & Acid House Connection
> Hi guys,
>
> this is maybe one of the most interesting "conversations
anyone heard this yet?
its good.
P*&TIg8p&^p87pYfL7p897if*&p87ifL86trlufkfo*&^5O8lUflU^O6FLUFluRFO^rUyfLuR^rL
66kufyfKLURlu
luiyt85P8/,yjg&5&^4I5dMH$64£yTy5^4YTfky6kyrr^77D5?ctkytYE
and thats the answer to the meaning of life itself.
john
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From: "Matthew Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hype
ha! ha! ha!
;}
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From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dan Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 12:49 PM
Subject: RE: (313) OT tech probs
Complete gibberish? SPW's back
-Original Message-
From: Dan Bean [mail
yeah!
lets get em
:]
> There was a thread on there about Fergie/Judge Jules.
> It says that they're playing the likes of Umek and Adam Beyer (I think
> these were two of the names mentioned).
i think the "star dj" era is slowing down and these guys are just running
scared.
even if they did secretly like half decent mu
> >what is the point of remixing big fun?
> derrick may did a heck of a job rmxing that track.
i haven't heard may's remix
john
what is the point of remixing big fun?
sorry, me too..
Access Virus B -with latest upgrade & in perfect condition.
John.
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From: "Erik Cronin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 10:52 PM
Subject: (313) For Sale: Akai S20 / Edirol UA-20
> Don't mean to spa
true!
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:52 AM
Subject: (313) The state of things... (was Re: New Rekkids)
> Despite record sales being on a decline across the board, there is
honestly
> no sho
anything happening this sunday in london?
:]
fanny doesn't mean "ass" in the uk. it means the front bottom.
maybe this has already been said.
;]
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From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Re: Fanny Pack
> I just found
yeah!
> Personally I thought the sort of people on that site were idiots even when
I was young, stupid and on drugs. And now that I'm old, sensible and
straight...I still think they are idiots. Call me an old bast*rd if you
like, but I will always take the pi*s out of anyone covered in vaporu
anything going on this saturday in london?
I used to go to these acid warehouse nights but I stopped going
a few years ago - too messy - in both meanings of the word!
A couple of my mates still go ('till 2 pm the next day!)
:]
> Wonky... yeah:
>
> 2- ST.UP the war room < STAY UP FOREVER
> Liberators [chris & Aaron]
>
> scary acid-tekno :
God knows! I've never done anything live before.
Maybe I'll do it one day.
:]
> BTW - John, when are we gonna see Dimension 5 do some live, soulful
> Detroit-influenced techno in London - regular or irregular - I'd go to
that
> too! :p
>
> Peace,
>
> Ken
can anyone recommend any regular nights in london that play soulful detroit
techno/house?
are there any?
radiohead - "hail to the thief"
its not out yet but its on kazza
Infoworld - Juan Atkins
well done Micheal - this was a great idea.
not many detroit mixes though!
:]
I think I heard that first track on Ceefax last night
Marsel - I think you should do this to your site!!
how much versions are there?
i refreshed and catched into four versions up till now
some of the greatest web stuff to come around
The guy that mentioned Kenny Larkin he hasn't put out any new album in how
long?
I was talking about a type of music, I could have said Aril Brikha or
countless others.
Just wondering mister SPW why the hell you are the list because the
only thing you try to do here is to us all we don't know sh*t about
techno and apparently you are the only one who understands it all...
I agree, I think some people are over-complicating things; this is a
Detroit Techno list
test
soul is not overrated
trance is
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> According to some people they say soul is overrated?
> Trance is Overated what do you think?
$tinkworx is the man behind downlow records.
he's from the u.s.
> >Does anyone know anything about $tinkworx and Macho
> >Cat Garage, who have both put out some really
> >excellent releases recently (on Delsin, Down Low and
> >Viewlexx)? I think I read somewhere that $tinkworx was
> >American.
can anyone help me?
I've just upgraded from cubase on the atari st to cubase VST v.3.7 for my
pentiun 166.
I can't get any midi signal in or out - it shows an output bar but none of
my equipment is being sequenced, and there is no input whatsoever from my
controller keyboard. It's driving me crazy
r attention to the new 12" on Raygun by John Harvey
aka Dimension 5...
If you are into his stuff on Delsin then you should check out Raygun 013 in
every case! Wonderful techno in the vein of Kenny Larkin and B12 for
example.
Congratulations to John and Raygun for a su
soulful detroit techno nights? where?
john harvey
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I agree, this is real acid house - i.e. no distortion on the 303, unlike the
newer stuff.
john.
> I'll go for some old Chicago tracks that aren't *amazingly* obvious, but
> leave aside modern stuff (I do think that Jeff Mills and Mad Mike are the
> John Coltrane and Pharoah Sanders of the TB303 th
>
> only idiots and musical beaurocrats are prone to labeling (music)
>
We label music to make things easier - imagine going to a record store and
there is only one section:- "MUSIC". Or trying to describe to someone what
music you're into without mentioning any kind of label.
Of course we need to
I can see what you are saying but I think if we had cdrs back in 1988 we
would feel just the same about are "mix tapes" - the music was more special
then because it was new, not because it had hiss.
nowdays of cousre we can add as much analogue warmth as we want before the
recording process using v
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