Re: What this list is and isn't about

2020-06-30 Thread Rob Taylor
Just what is the black version of the kkk, Joe? Don’t mince your words Sent from my iPhone > On 30 Jun 2020, at 21:18, Rob Taylor wrote: > >  Not sure why you’re in this group Joe if you are equating any black > movement with the KKK, esp if you are defending cops > > S

Re: What this list is and isn't about

2020-06-30 Thread Rob Taylor
; ethnomusicologist >> schoolcraftwax.work >> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:40 PM Rob Taylor >>> wrote: >>> Very familiar, hence the comment. Please stop with this both Joe and >>> Denise. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone &

Re: What this list is and isn't about

2020-06-30 Thread Rob Taylor
Very familiar, hence the comment. Please stop with this both Joe and Denise. Sent from my iPhone > On 30 Jun 2020, at 19:26, Rob Taylor wrote: > > It is. Wtf. > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On 30 Jun 2020, at 19:07, Joe Marougi wrote: >>>

Re: What this list is and isn't about

2020-06-30 Thread Rob Taylor
Now misogyny. Bingo! Sent from my iPhone > On 30 Jun 2020, at 19:07, Joe Marougi wrote: > >  > Not sure if you’re familiar with the context with that racist group and > Karen’s actions here. Apparently not? > > If so you’d see that my comment was spot on. > > > > >> On Tue, Jun 30,

Re: What this list is and isn't about

2020-06-30 Thread Rob Taylor
It is. Wtf. Sent from my iPhone > On 30 Jun 2020, at 19:07, Joe Marougi wrote: > >  > Not sure if you’re familiar with the context with that racist group and > Karen’s actions here. Apparently not? > > If so you’d see that my comment was spot on. > > > > >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at

Re: Fwd: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

2020-06-26 Thread Rob Taylor
I know it's time to unsubscribe. Well done. Bye On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:39 PM Denise Dalphond wrote: > At one point, Kent called me the Daphne of Techno. So I don’t really know > where we are right here. > > Denise > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 1:32 PM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote: > >> Ftr

Re: New E-Dancer release from KMS

2015-06-12 Thread Rob Taylor
Someone did put some Deep Space mixes by Saunderson online at some point and I recall them being rather good. They must be out there in some form still On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:17 PM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote: Ahhh - I've never actually heard that mix properly, cheers

Re: Moritz von Oswald Radio Special is On...

2015-05-13 Thread Rob Taylor
Good work Richard - looks like a lot of work has gone into it - can't wait for it to be available for download On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Richard Hester gwrenc...@sbcglobal.net wrote: As I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, I'll be presenting a 3-part special on the various entanglements

Re: 313 Mixes

2014-11-28 Thread Rob Taylor
Got a link to the Aubrey metroplex mix? On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 9:26 AM, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote: Recent Aubrey Metroplex mix was quality, any other 313 mix recommendations? Few new releases about too, C

Re: Dan Cortez

2014-10-23 Thread Rob Taylor
Poor fellow :( On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote: also claimed to be involved with Charlize Theron... weird 2014-10-23 9:30 GMT+02:00 Marsel van der Wielen mar...@nomorewords.net: lol he also had several fake facebook pages and record labels and

Re: (313) Terrence Parker

2014-04-30 Thread Rob Taylor
He's got a nerve, hasn't he? (Parker) On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote: Donald Keys also: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/terrence-parker-scam-legal-aid-fund-for-promoters#home 2014-04-26 5:17 GMT+02:00 John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com:

Re: (313) Terrence Parker

2014-04-30 Thread Rob Taylor
. On 30 April 2014 10:05, Ken k...@bleep43.com wrote: There's that mischief maker, Rob, again ;) Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *Rob Taylor *Sent: *Wednesday, 30 April 2014 08:49 *To: *Wibo Lammerts *Cc: *John Sokolowski; list 313 *Subject: *Re: (313) Terrence Parker

Re: (313) Mayday

2014-04-02 Thread Rob Taylor
To be *really* pedantic, only a listener or a reader can *infer*. Mr May *implies*. Sorry! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:03 PM, ... ohana...@gmail.com wrote: According to you, Bach is no longer a composer as he hasn't released anything in nearly 3 centuries. great logic On Fri, Mar 28, 2014

Re: (313) Mayday

2014-04-02 Thread Rob Taylor
Working in a school has turned me into an even worse pedant! On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 2 Apr 2014, at 09:34, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote: To be really pedantic, only a listener or a reader can infer. Mr May implies

Re: (313) Elmore Leonard

2013-08-20 Thread Rob Taylor
Perhaps you should have mentioned that he has died. I was wondering why you had posted about him! On 20 Aug 2013, at 15:10, k...@bleep43.com wrote: He wasn’t born in the city, but he’s surely one of the most famous American novelists of the 20th century and beyond to be closely associated

Re: (313) Elmore Leonard

2013-08-20 Thread Rob Taylor
now, after all. [Not to mention the little clue in the Wikipedia entry, which has today's date as the date he died! ;] -Original Message- From: Rob Taylor [mailto:barringtonphelo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 3:28 PM To: k...@bleep43.com Cc: 313@hyperreal.org

Re: (313) Outlet Collective recordings

2013-06-27 Thread Rob Taylor
load. http://disception.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=3t=12644sid=4a2449b812b2c5826515a2b2cafe08fa I have a CD worth of tracks (14 I think) to post up too, I'll link these as well once I've done it. -- *From:* Rob Taylor [mailto:barringtonphelo...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 25

Re: (313) Received a new demo today (says he's from Detroit?

2013-06-22 Thread Rob Taylor
You need to check out the music of 313 list's erstwhile member, SPW. It's unbelievable! On 22 Jun 2013, at 09:46, Martin mar...@dustscience.com wrote: It still better than anything in Beatports charts and I kinda like outsider music and people who have a go. m On 22 Jun 2013, at 04:45,

Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix

2013-06-18 Thread Rob Taylor
... From: Rob Taylor [mailto:barringtonphelo...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 June 2013 15:45 To: David Powers Cc: Wibo Lammerts; Daniel Bean; benny blanco®; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix Quite, David. And if you don't like the song in the first place

Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix

2013-06-18 Thread Rob Taylor
being of their audience. I do believe that bad music can literally make people sick in a psycho-spiritual sense! ~dp On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote: I am laughing at the idea of a 'serious dance DJ'. On 18 Jun 2013, at 15:56, David Powers

Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix

2013-06-17 Thread Rob Taylor
To: Rob Taylor Cc: benny blanco®; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix That's the C2 HypeMachine in full effect, and you fell for it! Shame! ;) 2013/6/13 Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com the way he described it made it sound awesome

Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix

2013-06-13 Thread Rob Taylor
speaking of dodgy remixes, Carl Craig was speaking with Joe Muggs in a Resident Advisor podcast recently ( http://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?exchange=149 ), and he mentioned a remix/re-edit or maybe even a re-recording of Toto's Africa that he played at London's Plastic People

Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix

2013-06-13 Thread Rob Taylor
the way he described it made it sound awesome! On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote: I think I heard that one, a while ago. and it is as bad as one could imagine. 2013/6/13 Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com speaking of dodgy remixes, Carl Craig

Re: (313) Testing

2013-06-03 Thread Rob Taylor
Why is everyone so down on Comic Sans? It has its uses! On 3 Jun 2013, at 16:49, Matthew Kane m...@hydrogenproject.com wrote: Comic sans? You failed, that's for sure :) On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:47 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: This is a test. fuck. -- matt kane

Re: (313) Testing

2013-06-03 Thread Rob Taylor
I'm serious. It's a great font On 3 Jun 2013, at 17:12, Denise Dalphond denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the laugh! On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote: Why is everyone so down on Comic Sans? It has its uses! On 3 Jun 2013, at 16

Re: (313) Testing

2013-06-03 Thread Rob Taylor
ones. On 3 Jun 2013, at 18:30, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: HELVETICA 814.gif35C.gif32B.gif33E.gif03D.gif Pee-wee_Twitter_Profile.png On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm serious. It's a great font On 3 Jun 2013, at 17:12

Re: (313) Testing

2013-06-03 Thread Rob Taylor
for every issue there are two sides, even if one is wrong: http://comicsansproject.tumblr.com/ that is all : ) fh - Thanks for the laugh! On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.comwrote: Why is everyone so down on Comic Sans? It has its

Re: (313) jeff mills vs. pizza pasta

2013-05-31 Thread Rob Taylor
That one's true! On 31 May 2013, at 13:40, Benoît Pueyo benoit.pu...@gmail.com wrote: And this one about Hawtin : http://equalizermag.com/news/richie-hawtin-unveils-the-rectangle/ LOL 2013/5/31 Tom Langford tom.langf...@hotmail.co.uk I was under the impression everything on the site

Re: (313) Outlet Collective recordings

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Taylor
Cheers Paul, Looking forward to hearing these again. I was at all of your parties I think, so I shall be listening out to hear myself screaming! On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.comwrote: ** Here are the first recordings I have found from our Outlet Collective

Re: (313) Outlet Collective recordings

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Taylor
being released; http://www.discogs.com/artist/NCW -- *From:* Rob Taylor [mailto:barringtonphelo...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 23 May 2013 10:45 *To:* Paul Kendrick *Cc:* Andrew Duke In The Mix/Cognition Audioworks; Wibo Lammerts; James Fisher; 313@hyperreal.org

Re: (313) Outlet Collective recordings

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Taylor
). -- *From:* Rob Taylor [mailto:barringtonphelo...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 23 May 2013 11:07 *To:* Paul Kendrick *Cc:* Andrew Duke In The Mix/Cognition Audioworks; Wibo Lammerts; James Fisher; 313@hyperreal.org *Subject:* Re: (313) Outlet Collective recordings Ooh what

Re: (313) Giorgio Moroder Deep Space NY 2013 1st ever DJ Set

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Taylor
I'm sure it will be excellent and not a complete embarrassment ;) On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Andrew Duke In The Mix/Cognition Audioworks andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Ed. http://andrewdukeinthemix.com On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:59 AM, edward thompson

Re: (313) KRU Noise Radio 2013-04-20

2013-04-24 Thread Rob Taylor
Has Lenny Dee mellowed out yet? Anyone know? Haven't followed his career in years, but he seemed to have gone the opposite way - from the mellow vibes of Fallout's The Morning After to the nosebleed of F**in Hostile! On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks new email

Re: (313) Electro track id?

2013-02-25 Thread Rob Taylor
Vic 20 - Hostile Takeover on Breakin' http://youtu.be/JnMwEGH6EKY http://www.discogs.com/VIC-20-Interactions-Under-Non-Local-Reality/release/25707 On 25 Feb 2013, at 16:37, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody help me ID this Detroit-style electro track with the following voice

Re: (313) history always favours the winners

2013-02-22 Thread Rob Taylor
LOL: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/american-rave-culture-to-be-worst-thing-that-has-ever-happened-2013022260677 On 19 Feb 2013, at 20:17, maxphi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.spin.com/articles/skrillex-diplo-boys-noize-a-trak-detroit-techno-potato-kevin-saunderson-dog-blood

Re: (313) Kraftwerk: Concerts next year

2012-12-13 Thread Rob Taylor
£60 is a greedy rip off. Wouldn't pay that even if I was loaded. And you'd just hear one album. I'd want to hear the whole oeuvre for £60. I have seen them once and that's enough for me. On 13 Dec 2012, at 12:01, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: I'm more philosophical about it Paul

Re: (313) RE: NYE

2012-12-06 Thread Rob Taylor
Me too! Nice and intimate and sweaty! On 6 Dec 2012, at 13:27, Daniel Bean daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I'm off to the World Unknown NYE party. -Original Message- From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:p...@dagmar-tara.com] Sent: 06 December 2012 13:18 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313)

Re: (313) From the mouth of babes...

2012-07-12 Thread Rob Taylor
Why? He's right in a way. UR ARE a bit po-faced. Detroit techno is in general, quite SERIOUS. On 12 Jul 2012, at 12:23, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: This makes me so angry and sick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2012, at 1:15 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote:

Re: (313) Mills 20 year retropective

2012-04-04 Thread Rob Taylor
I'd download that for a dollar! On 4 Apr 2012, at 23:57, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote: Just saw this on the internets: http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2012/04/jeff-mills-release-20-year-retro No release date as yet, but looks pretty epic. Sequence: A Retrospective of Axis Records

Re: (313) Joke of the week

2012-02-28 Thread Rob Taylor
Why is 'hating on' things so frowned upon? Hate away I say On 28 Feb 2012, at 22:26, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote: 1 moby stories...3000 skrilldix stories...hate, hate hate hate hate...I just bought mouse-flavored mouthwash for the cats. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:21 PM, kent

Re: (313) John Tejada 7th City reissues

2012-01-24 Thread Rob Taylor
I really like his Daydreams In Cold Weather album from 2002, esp Young, even though the whole thing is a blatant Plaid rip off On 24 Jan 2012, at 17:48, Matt Chester chesterm...@gmail.com wrote: 'Song forms freedom' on Mosaic is his best imo, along with Timebomb. There's a great one he did

Re: (313) John Tejada 7th City reissues

2012-01-24 Thread Rob Taylor
, but Tejada is more straightforward rhythmically, and where Plaid makes melodic puzzle-palaces using random processes, Tejada seems to use more intentional composing. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote: I really like his Daydreams In Cold Weather album

Re: (313) Re: Girogio Moroder's Metropolis

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Taylor
most of the music on the colourised Moroder version of Metropolis is horrendous, unfortunatelt. Thomas Bangalter's work on Irreversible and Enter The Void is awesome. I would also recommend Eduard Artemyev's work on Solaris and Stalker then there's John Carpenter. On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:58

Re: (313) Girogio Moroder's Metropolis

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Taylor
M is brilliant; Peter Lorre is fantastic. On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Jacob Arnold ja...@gridface.com wrote: kent williams wrote: And what I'm really dying to see is the restored version they've made from the print found in Argentina. TCM airs it sometimes. On the one hand, it's great

Re: (313) Re: Girogio Moroder's Metropolis

2011-09-30 Thread Rob Taylor
forget Cliff Martinez's soundtrack for the Solaris remake. Also quite good! On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote: most of the music on the colourised Moroder version of Metropolis is horrendous, unfortunatelt. Thomas Bangalter's work

Re: (313) Rob Hood Mix on CLR

2011-09-12 Thread Rob Taylor
finding it impossible to download. i subscribed, but it still won't let me what am i doing wrong? On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:45 PM, tydesign tydes...@gmail.com wrote: Rob Hood mix on CLR for the first time. Listen and download here: http://clr.net/news.pl?id=178

Re: (313) Rob Hood Mix on CLR

2011-09-12 Thread Rob Taylor
account. Just fill in your email address below and follow the directions: You'll then be sent a link which will take you to the login menu - just click the button and you're good to go :) On 12 September 2011 23:20, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote: finding it impossible

Re: (313) Lets start some old topics

2011-09-03 Thread Rob Taylor
i miss those days. he can still be argued with on twitter though! On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Derek Plaslaiko dkp...@gmail.com wrote: don't worry, y'all. I'm just waiting for tom cox to pick a fight with me. THEN it'll be the good old days! On Sep 3, 2011 1:40 PM, Matt Kaneapos;s Brain

Re: (313) the drexciyan immersion project (was Re: (313) Drexciya reissues)

2011-09-02 Thread Rob Taylor
yes, i suspect black sea is my favourite techno track of all time On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:11 PM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.comwrote: The Journey Home EP on Warp - incredible stuff! Jason On 2 September 2011 09:19, Ronny Pries r...@rohformat.de wrote: Yeah, Wavejumper. Lost Vessel

Re: (313) the drexciyan immersion project (was Re: (313) Drexciya reissues)

2011-09-02 Thread Rob Taylor
...@gmail.com wrote: journey home EP and black sea specifically were among the tracks i rated highest in iTunes star system during my first run through of the 350+ stinson/donald cuts i've listened to. black sea got five stars. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo

Re: (313) Lets start some old topics

2011-09-02 Thread Rob Taylor
the dutch don't know shit On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the list, lets start some 90's topic all over again :-) I will start: - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno?

Re: (313) the drexciyan immersion project (was Re: (313) Drexciya reissues)

2011-09-01 Thread Rob Taylor
this is a great way to engage with an artist's music. i have done similar projects with the works of autechre, coil, scott walker and nurse with wound. very rewarding experiences. :) On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: Since August 1st I've been trying to

Re: (313) the drexciyan immersion project (was Re: (313) Drexciya reissues)

2011-09-01 Thread Rob Taylor
also check this stinson/donald podcast. i listen to it loads http://www.bleep43.com/podcast/2006/2/19/podcast-17-james-stinson-and-gerald-donald-special.html On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.comwrote: this is a great way to engage with an artist's music. i

Re: (313) Toddla T Take Me Back

2011-05-17 Thread Rob Taylor
this is london, not 'whoohoo yay, go team!' america. people don't want to look too enthusiastic. that would never do. ;) On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:17 AM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: could the people in the video look any less enthusiastic?  going through the motions.  i am

Re: (313) Toddla T Take Me Back

2011-05-17 Thread Rob Taylor
looks like it's filmed in 'my' part of london too On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: To be fair, lot's of house lyrics are very similar around the early period, it's a big tune for Toddla. m On 17 May 2011, at 04:24, David Powers wrote: Okay, well

Re: (313) Toddla T Take Me Back

2011-05-17 Thread Rob Taylor
that are good but I can't seem to listen for longer than 5 minutes now it's gone legit, too many shout outs and rewinds! m On 17 May 2011, at 13:12, Rob Taylor wrote: looks like it's filmed in 'my' part of london too

Re: (313) Pirates (Toddla T Take Me Back)

2011-05-17 Thread Rob Taylor
leeds had a few pirates too - dream fm was the best one - astonishing variation of music, unlike the london ones On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: Manchester had soul and reggae pirates but don't recall a techno/house one but I'm going back a long

Re: (313) Pirates (Toddla T Take Me Back)

2011-05-17 Thread Rob Taylor
depends what you mean by early days - i'm talking 91-94ish, so not early early early days! On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 17 May 2011, at 14:12, Rob Taylor wrote: leeds had a few pirates too - dream fm was the best one - astonishing variation

Re: (313) Wanted: London (second hand) record stores

2011-05-12 Thread Rob Taylor
i bet some of that was mine, ken as that's where i sold all my records! On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: I've definitely accumulated a big chunk of techno from there over the years too Matt. I'd forgotten they even had another shop on the same road,

Re: (313) mid/late 90s minimal techno mixes?

2011-05-03 Thread Rob Taylor
i think this should fit the bill: Mad Mike - Acid Rain III - Underground Resistance [Track: Twista (The Dance= )] Robert Hood - Moveable Parts Chapter One - M-Plant [Track: Untitled Scetch] Jacek Sienkiewicz - New Direction - Recognition Monobox - Realm - M-Plant D.S. Volume 1 - Lukuta - F

Re: (313) Christian Marclay (was Research question about vinyl manipulation)

2010-11-06 Thread Rob Taylor
christian marclay is not a musician, he's an artist. there's nothing to get about his 'music'. it's all about the processes On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:08 PM, AntonBanks.com web...@snet.net wrote: Really interesting topic! I don't mean to derail the conversation but this link got me thinking...

Re: (313) Christian Marclay (was Research question about vinyl manipulation)

2010-11-06 Thread Rob Taylor
) on ATT Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@googlemail.com wrote: christian marclay is not a musician, he's an artist. there's nothing to get about his 'music'. it's all about the processes On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:08 PM, AntonBanks.com web...@snet.net wrote: Really interesting topic! I don't mean

Re: (313) Aarron Carl has passed

2010-09-30 Thread Rob Taylor
very sad news indeed and so shocking On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: Unbelievable. R.I.P. Ken -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 September 2010 14:17 To: list 313 Subject: (313) Aarron Carl