Re: (313) deepchord...AWOL?

2006-10-31 Thread v12
expect a new cd coming out in the next six months.. something tells me it might be a 12 trak/60 minutes cd...we'll see ... it's likely some more stuff appears via synth label.. just keep your eyes wide open.. /12 - Original Message - From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org

Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t

2006-09-06 Thread v12
everybody's got their name printed on their faces. what's the problem if someone starts reading aloud? not comfortable enough? /12 - Original Message - From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:48 AM Subject: (313)

Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t

2006-09-06 Thread v12
too much zen, but thats ok.. to sum up. this isnt about namecalling as such. rude truth is handsomer than any of your pseudo-civilised politness.. u think you're that mature? no you arent,you're just old and tired.. even too tired to see the detail of the matter,comparing current affairs

Re: (313) screaming the truth

2006-09-06 Thread v12
this is the the most ridiculous show ive witnessed for ages.. unsubscribing drama queens whose party's been spoiled... instead of crying, write an official letter of complaint to the admin and tell who is that villain who destroys your imaginary perfect discourse.. detroit - where the weak are

Re: (313) crybaby warning

2006-09-05 Thread v12
gotta love the insecure crybabies... no forum or mailing list can do without a few of them ;/ give him a hug, tom and put to eternal sleep... /12 - Original Message - From: Neil Wiernik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: Re: (313)

Re: (313) crybaby warning

2006-09-05 Thread v12
how come the elitism disappears as soon as the discourse turns into sound detail avenue? you think the usual mutual a*ss kissing has anything to do with hi-level? intriguing i must admit. /12 - Original Message - From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: v12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread v12
continue this conversation ... as streaming bandwitdh does change the sound of things... neil.. On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, v12 wrote: listened to the first one (which was a pain in the *ss as im on a dial up till 25th) , i dont know what to say.. you surely are familiar with any

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread v12
: you under estimate my knowlege sir get off dial up and listen to what Im talking about once your out of the internet dark ages we can continue this conversation ... as streaming bandwitdh does change the sound of things... neil.. On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, v12 wrote: listened to the first

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread v12
a month after the green nights orange days record was but was NOT mastered by twerk but rather mastered by someone else using a similar studio set up to what twerk uses. you can directly hear the difference right away... neil... On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, v12 wrote

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread v12
in case your to much of a shut in and wont leave your house oh wait you are still on DIAL UP!!!LMAO internet backwater!!! On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, v12 wrote: so what's the optimum stream? a cda quality? well i cant wait to hear that ;/ or get your stuff out properly so we can talk about

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread v12
PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: Re: (313) Laptop Debate Pardon my dust, but isn't Kirk known for having one of the craziest setups of modular analog synths in the world? m50 At 07:09 2006/9/3, v12 wrote: silenced: trak 6,10 and 16 - to my ear

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread v12
, v12 wrote: what for? quality toilet paper is widely available and does its job really. i dont need substitutes, if i change my mind - you'll be the first to know..

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-04 Thread v12
you that toilet paper in your hand if I can reach that high up where you are! On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, v12 wrote: what for? quality toilet paper is widely available and does its job really. i dont need substitutes, if i change my mind - you'll be the first to know.. /12 - Original

Re: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-04 Thread v12
cobblestone jazz - 5th element common factor exploration:meaning noleian reusse - lovers jack scorpion's dream aqua dance first one traks that come to mind... /12 - Original Message - From: Peteri, Jochem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:23 PM

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-03 Thread v12
Ive had tracks mastered by twerk that suddenly went from luck warm to boiling hot.. simply because he knows what he is doing ... ^honestly, i gave you examples/titles as i know what i am saying. if you say the opposite -pls stop the general statements about some ghost recordings and give

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-03 Thread v12
silenced: trak 6,10 and 16 - to my ear: NONE they've just got their hi-end cut off which adds greyness to the overall impression.. i've listened to 320 kbps mp3s and it all sounds like arturia vsti's or something like that. reminds me of the numerous degiorgio releases (new religion) i tried

Re: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-03 Thread v12
example of what i am talking about: http://www.discogs.com/release/17578 - Original Message - From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 9:18 AM Subject: (313) Laptop Debate OK then, which one of these is purely made on analog kit?

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-03 Thread v12
. bizz WRONG jelinek uses live instrumentation for the most part hes only used samples for a small amount of recordings and acctually they are samples of his own music playing On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, v12 wrote: someone mentioned jelinek,ok he can sound really sweet sometimes, but it's

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate./loop fin ding jazz recs

2006-09-03 Thread v12
...but having it played right now i must say it's the looped samples / sustained piano tails, chimes etc that sound sweet all the electronic snippets spoil the impression. it would sound better to me without all the clicky rubbish flying around /12 - Original Message - From: v12 [EMAIL

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-03 Thread v12
Subject: Re: (313) The Laptop Debate. and why does he not fit??? becasue you say so? his a digital artist samples or not he fits... On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, v12 wrote: did i say samples from records? and what did i ask for? he doesnt fit if you read carefully... - Original

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-03 Thread v12
sweet fng jesus ;/ In a computer it is the same thing, there are a lot of elements that are geared to that same mainstream audience, as well as all of those garbage loop and prefab rhythm programs/plug-ins, and you have to get past that just like with real world synths and make your own

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-03 Thread v12
was but was NOT mastered by twerk but rather mastered by someone else using a similar studio set up to what twerk uses. you can directly hear the difference right away... neil... On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, v12 wrote: ^honestly, i gave you examples/titles as i know what i am saying. if you say

Re: (313) list issues

2006-09-03 Thread v12
for a while i thought i was banned from the list (after a handful of bounces),which happens occasionally...but it seems it's the vocab filter well, sort of funny thank god we can say terrorist, oil, regime ... the american brother is watching... - Original Message - From: kent

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread v12
but maybe we haven't seen the Ron Hardy or Derrick May of the laptop yet. But it's silly to argue that computers, in and of themselves, are the problem. no, true. it's the lifeless,stiff, ear-scratching bright sound that is the problem.. it's like a plastic doll,with or without make-up it's

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread v12
show me a 100% pc-made trak that would sound even close to rod modell's deepchord 14 or rhythm n sound's carrier. speaking of rod - any of his traks on ecchocord. or afx's blue calx or laricheard or mike parker's caesura 1 or andres' LP on mahogani/ kdj 29 either you're all joking..or you

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.

2006-09-02 Thread v12
and i dont say digital is bad - not at all - i.e. look at convextion..much of his stuff sounds really good. i dont know about his whole audio signal circuitry but i remember he was using a digital jd800 as sound source for many of his track.. it aint deepchord,but still much more ear pleasing

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.

2006-09-02 Thread v12
You should print the thread and read it on paper, that will add some warmth to it :) or even transcribe it down to paper and than read it :)) ^guess what - if a post is longer than say 15-20 lines i do print it. unless it's some pointless nonsense by someone i know he couldnt come up with

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread v12
It's possible to make a digital track sound convincingly analog in any decent software package. Soft saturation on the EQ, tape compression, add a little hiss ... nobody will know the difference. nobody? it's all futile attempt - analog devices lacked stability,that meant milions un-copyable

(313) re: production

2006-09-01 Thread v12
Techno is about dance floor reinforcement, so if you are not thinking about the final product. ie: the sound system on the floor .,. then just forget it .. ^95% of techno i've heard had nothing to do with dancefloor..what sort of a sleeve you've pulled out this joke from? unless you meant

Re: (313) Production

2006-08-31 Thread v12
Believe me, I've spent hours and hours making 'sounds never heard before' in my studio, and most of them are awful. ^and if you want to become one of them/the players - choose the most awful/ridiculous ones, loop them for about 5 mins or make some random patterns/sequences - put them out. but

Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-29 Thread v12
Mr. Clarke was even jumping and smiling an dancing behind the dex, and that's not often to be seen:-) ^yet another proper clown - admire or die ;/

Re: (313) Um...

2006-08-28 Thread v12
It seems to me like the dividing line, kinda, between being a kid and being an adult is that when you are a kid, you want to impose yourself on the world and change the world to be like you, and be congratulated for being yourself. The other side of that line is you realize that the

(313) Hawtin soap'eras?

2006-08-27 Thread v12
him,vaeth,vilalobos,magda? and all that business(wo)men i cant believe ppl still discuss their action.. and then even seriously argue about it? like there wasnt anything better to do/ listen to... shame.

Re: (313) More Recognition

2006-08-19 Thread v12
i remember one side of the jeden/dwa record was ok. a good use of a pseudonym 'cause i gave up checking to stuff signed with his name after the ridiculous LP on cocoon. (not techne ,the other one) for the curious: jeden = one dwa = two /12 - Original Message - From: Tristan Watkins

Re: (313) Drexcyia: Dj Stingray @bootleg cafe

2006-08-19 Thread v12
got it some time ago; a good one indeed, if only he werent messing with maurizio/phylyps traks @45 rpm it would be even better... - Original Message - From: Nick Breinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 1:45 AM Subject: (313) Drexcyia: Dj Stingray

Re: (313) More Recognition

2006-08-19 Thread v12
i remember once ive read he was heavily inspired by robert hood back in 1997,which is ok. but the difference between hood and sienkiewicz is: the latter has not recorded anything spectacular like spectral nomad or even wire to wire yet. unless his recent stuff is that good,dunno - as i havent

Re: (313) Digital Downloads

2006-08-18 Thread v12
ive heard a lot of those 320 kbps from various sources and decided i wont ever spend a cent on mp3/ogg etc . none of the files sounded better than the 192s i made myself. if it's wav / cd-r sure ,ok. but those commercial mps3 are still sort of a joke. often hammered with some funny loudness

Re: (313) Digital Downloads

2006-08-18 Thread v12
because some fu***r got himself 15 copies back in 1995/97.. - Original Message - From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: v12 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: RE: (313) Digital Downloads And that's a sad thing HOW? Sounds like a proper

Re: (313) Teaching them when they're young...

2006-08-14 Thread v12
headphones at his age is not the best idea.. (for his hearing) - Original Message - From: Kelly B. Delaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 4:12 PM Subject: (313) Teaching them when they're young... http://www.flickr.com/photos/kdiddy/214606735/

Re: (313) new ERP on ai

2006-06-27 Thread v12
honestly: dissapointing.. after listening to that infamous 2xCD of stolen traks only the one i didnt like at all got onto vinyl while there was a load of fat/deep stuff in the bunch. probably first erp release i wont buy. but anyway i wouldnt expect anything else from a label like Ai. cant wait

Re: (313) RE : (313) new ERP on ai

2006-06-27 Thread v12
about The 2x CDJ.T. would never like to hear about again :) - Original Message - From: mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'v12' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: (313) RE : (313) new ERP on ai Of which 2xCD are you talking

Re: (313) Trax reissues

2006-06-15 Thread v12
it's always buy now!!! remastered***%%% or DI-GI-TALLY !!! remastered!!%%@@^^ etc..but they never mention the sources which sais everything about their target audience no thanks. trax? hell yeah - a good way to cash on. /12 ___ What is your

Re: (313) See Mi Yah remixes 4

2006-05-24 Thread v12
if i was disappointed with the 3rd one (having zero expectations after the first two) then the 4th ep left me totally indifferent. bland stuff names are not enough. /v12 - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:51

Re: (313) Richard Polson - RIP

2006-05-09 Thread v12
...dont really know what to say. surface crew/65d were in my top-? sound-wise for a long time; yet probably pretty much UNDERRATED by most people. really sad,especially that there is no peace where he's gone ;/. - Original Message - From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313

Re: (313) Hard Wax Redesign

2006-05-04 Thread v12
noticed that too. good news,but what made them include audio samples? could that be the same reason for which we can hear villalobos on smy rmxs? ;/ - Original Message - From: Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jacob Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday,

Re: (313) Hierovextion

2006-05-02 Thread v12
as much i dont give a about the reviews ;) , i'd be very thankful if someone posted a link to the saturday's recordings... if such exist of kors ... /12

Re: (313) More new Rhythm Sound SMY remixes...

2006-04-22 Thread v12
much better line up,huh? i was seriously afraid to see ppl like fixmer or ellen allien or even some clicky-noobs like eulberg or stuff like that on the 3rd part of smy rmxs. but instead: hallucinator,loewe and metzger - sounds(or rather : LOOKS) ..at least promising..but after listening to the

Re: (313) More new Rhythm Sound SMY remixes...

2006-04-22 Thread v12
as iasaid - 3rd part 's been made by the right people, but: when i see vainqueur - i expect to hear something equal to faith, elevation I ver 3 or elevation II orig - this guy has an amazing signature sound in his hands - why waste it for mediocre traks? (sounds a bit harsh? maybe :) when i see

Re: (313) Poland

2006-04-20 Thread v12
unfortunately,yes. - Original Message - From: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:06 PM Subject: (313) Poland Are there any listmembers from Poland? cheers Jason

Re: (313) DEMF supporters here

2006-04-19 Thread v12
of artists and nothing decent to listen to except for some underrated gems recorded by people who never appear on the flyers ;/ if anywhere... alleluja. the bad news is: keepin' it real ,yo bro ;/ aint enough (unless im alone with my opinion which is possible,sure) /v12

Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread v12
maybe a bit off-topic?... dunno http://outoneart.com/mixes/fixia_-_deeper.mp3 a mix including rhythm n sound,deepchord ,ridis,thule and related sounds for chordy-echo-fetishists ;) ___ minimal but not clicky and not slamming either: surely anything by

Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread v12
another not to be missed: jan jelinek with his loop finding jaqzz records and decent/recent kosmischer pitch ,both on scape. unique sampling imho.

Re: (313) minimal sounds

2006-04-06 Thread v12
kosmischer aint consistent quality wise so to speak..but it's worth a listen for that trak5's guitars only ;) /12

Re: (313) minimal sounds about Costello

2006-04-06 Thread v12
costello - together is the new alone sounded unique. never heard abnything valueable by him since then. sounds like everything else around kompakt sound area pity. /12 - Original Message - From: seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:29 PM Subject:

Re: (313) i miss...

2006-03-25 Thread v12
cant beat the a.r.t 1 version ;) tested: positive - Original Message - From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 5:14 PM Subject: (313) i miss... nortroute. just testingsorry fab

Re: (313) see mi yah mixes

2006-03-17 Thread v12
convextion nwaq 3 chairs jackmate carl craig + i wouldnt mind hearing an actual v.delay version instead of his luomo nonsense. what happened to mr. multila/entain ? - no idea ;/ /v12 - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday

Re: (313) Planet Detroit Upcoming Events

2006-03-17 Thread v12
I'll bet it's the US Surgeon. Tony Child (the UK guy) is simply referred to as 'Surgeon' rather than 'DJ Surgeon'. I could be wrong... ^www.dj-surgeon.com i heard that the us surgeon is called the surgeon rather than dj surgeon but - ive never been there so... maybe it's none of them? ;)

Re: (313) More Burial Mix remixes

2006-03-17 Thread v12
what are they doing?! :( i bet this will sell - there's a catchy house loop (who cares that the voice vs organ/synthgo off-key occasionaly?) there's a yo-yo-yo jungle mix for the ravers + b2 ultra-stereo dub for the smokers. this WILL sell,for sure - but i doubt it would satisfy the ones who

Re: (313) see mi yah mixes

2006-03-16 Thread v12
villalobos remixing rhythm and sound? who allowed this? who released it? worst joke of the year so far if you asked me. kompakt (feat. perlon) 1 : 0 hardwax [halftime] whats gonna happen next? ;/ - Original Message - From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: (313) Trapez/Traum, etc

2006-03-16 Thread v12
samey rubbish ,tons a day. electronic music killers. thats what i feel about that trendy environment - Original Message - From: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006

Re: (313) Convextion, Heiroglyphic Being

2006-03-10 Thread v12
maybe a few euro-gigs would wake people up. i cant even say he's underrated in my area, because he's literally unknown yet (which is absurd imo) will his performance be recorded /put online for the less lucky ones? if not - i'll have to wait till his new stuff on DL comes out

Re: (313) Convextion, Heiroglyphic Being

2006-03-10 Thread v12
... mixture of both perhaps - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; v12 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: RE: (313) Convextion, Heiroglyphic Being OK, I think you meant Convextion. Sorry

Re: (313) Musicology 12s

2006-02-28 Thread v12
bootlegs. - Original Message - From: theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:57 AM Subject: (313) Musicology 12s Someone was asking about these...they're nice, clean, good sounding presses and look a lot like the

Re: (313) best picture ever of mathew johnson

2006-02-08 Thread v12
it sais: can y'all smell that? hah! i did it !(again) - Original Message - From: Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:27 PM Subject: (313) best picture ever of mathew johnson

Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks?

2006-02-06 Thread v12
the CC remix is good,if not better than that - but i must say that when i hear beatdown the first thing that comes to mind is the CD on 3rd ear,especially the opening tracks by Alston and Miller. +the original 'falling up' or backbone waltz by 3 chairs. isnt carl's rework a bit too

Re: (313) Classic beatdown tracks?

2006-02-06 Thread v12
beatdown a new dwarf-genre? well dunno but honestly beatdown sounds better than house if you asked me not that i care about words a all that just a thought house techno 's been raped so many times that techno turned into...deep techno while house became deep house to escape from the negative