The only things earlier were basscadet ep and the
incunabula LP, leaving
cavity job out of this..
Doh! My apologies. I should've remembered that, especially
since at that
time we were getting Autechre re-releases in the states a
*long* time after
the UK release date.
Are you
Or the fabulous re-issue of the Human League's Dare and Love
Dancing... I
was a kid when Dare came out and listening to my mum's
records and she was
never convinced to get it, she liked Eurythmics more. I am glad, I
appreciate the experimental side more now!
I don't mind the
: (313) Re: Cubik
Or the fabulous re-issue of the Human League's Dare and Love
Dancing... I
was a kid when Dare came out and listening to my mum's
records and she was
never convinced to get it, she liked Eurythmics more. I am glad, I
appreciate the experimental side more now!
I don't mind
yup... more here : http://blindyouth.com/
Gwendal
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From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:34 AM
To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313 Detroit
Subject: RE: (313) Re: Cubik
Would this include works with the other original members
, like Ladytron are great.
From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) Re: Cubik
Date: 16/12/2002 22:09:52
To: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And I never hear it done
-- Original Message --
From: techno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On the subject of older techno like 808 State sounding dated, I
would say
that is true especially with techno from the rave era.
With electro, Detroit techno, and older Chicago house from the
Trax era,
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
its like they lose the history of the music altogether,
what happened in the past is no longer relevant, the only thing
that matters is what will happen tomorrow. IDM has some great
classic albums: surfing on sine waves, selected ambient works,
etc. but now the music
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From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd qualify this by stating that, while music (and the general
zeitgeist) tends to loop back somewhat, there is also an overarching
sense of two steps forward, one step back. And if you reach
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
since all music
is moving along some sort of timeline where what exists before
somehow has some influence on even the newest music, its
impossible to say that any music is no longer having an effect on
the most avant garde music. its part of one huge puzzle, you cant
For sampling I still revere Looks Like We're Shy Own Horse by
Colourbox, the best spaghetti western dub tune of all time.
Also love the samples in the acid house era of PTV (water,
that's what I'm talking about, water; now just a cotton-pickin'
minute!, and the Bogart samples from Key Largo).
At 10:10 PM 12/15/2002, you wrote:
For sampling I still revere Looks Like We're Shy Own Horse by
Colourbox, the best spaghetti western dub tune of all time.
Also love the samples in the acid house era of PTV (water,
that's what I'm talking about, water; now just a cotton-pickin'
minute!, and
I was never a fan of the break beat or drum n'bass but in 1993 I saw DJ
Danny Beakz and it definitely gave me new respect for what the genre was all
about which would eventually evolve into drum
n'bass.
The DMC scratching style with a live MC gave me new perspectiveon on break
beat which was
-- Original Message --
From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sure, I'll agree with that. But my making this claim you must
realize
that you've also completely negated your original arguments,
which were:
its like they lose the history of the music
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
here's the problem: IDM has gone from being more traditionally
techno/ambient based in the early 90's to being a reaction against
just about anything they feel like going against, mostly melody
and rhythm as far as i can tell. it seems (to me at least) that
its just
-- Original Message --
From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I completely agree with your explanation. I just don't hear
these
things as inherently negative.
I tend to really enjoy music that struggles to break out of its
inevitable connections with
@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Re: Cubik
-- Original Message --
From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sure, I'll agree with that. But my making this claim you must
realize
that you've also completely negated your original arguments,
which were:
its like
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
if a style of music is strictly all
about NOW then its meaning a decade down the line doesnt mean a
thing.
I claim the exact opposite - if a style of music is stricly all about
TEN YEARS AGO then its meaning a decade down the line is wow, that
sounds 20 years
-- Original Message --
From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I claim the exact opposite - if a style of music is stricly all
about
TEN YEARS AGO then its meaning a decade down the line is wow,
that
sounds 20 years old.
sure, but so little music is
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
sure, but so little music is just straight up derivative.
But I want it to be even less derivative. Revolution!
And yeah, that goes for my own music too...
sure alot of those musics you mention did do things in a new way.
however, you can sit down and listen and
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From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And I never hear it done as well as I heard it done the
first time. So if I want to hear that music, I'll listen to Yello, or
Gary Numan, or Art of Noise, or Kraftwerk. If I want nostalgia, I'll
take the stuff that I'm
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From: K Money [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 6:28 AM
Subject: RE: (313) Re: Cubik
This may be BS, but from what I recall, some of the early 90's IDM
artists came about as a reaction to the Criminal Justice Act in England
Anti ep was released before Amber!
The only things earlier were basscadet ep and the incunabula LP, leaving
cavity job out of this..
Remco
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: (313) CJB and IDM was - Re: (313) Re: Cubik
Anti ep was released before Amber!
The only things earlier were basscadet ep and the incunabula LP, leaving
cavity job
I vaguely recall in an interview hawtin giving 808 State credit with Cubic
before Technarchy was released.
Of course before Cubic there was Fank De Wulfs' Acid Rock.
In cronological order it would have been:
acid rock
cubik
technarchy
On the subject of older techno like 808 State sounding
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From: techno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It reminds me of the Art Of Noise and Yellow in the 1980's, more about
technology and experimentation than good music, the use of sampling was
supposed to sound hip and sophisticated at the time but now sounds
extremely
dated.
I'd
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