Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: R.Y.Fixer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business One entry found for racism. Main Entry: rac·ism Pronunciation: 'rA-si-zm also -shi- Function: noun

Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread R.Y.Fixer
actually, there is a very clear accepted definition. It might be worded slightly differently in the OED but that was from Mirriam Webster, the US standard dictionary. Language is the only way we human animals have to convey meaning, and for it to work, we all need to work from the same

Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - From: R.Y.Fixer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 7:57 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business actually, there is a very clear accepted definition. It might be worded slightly differently

Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread T . J . Johnson
Tristan has a great point here. Besides, how do you know that the person who posted originally about racism meant it the same way as webster did?! I mean seriously; wasn't webster only 3.5 ft. tall because of a deficiency in his pituitary gland? With all the medication he was taking, how

Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread R.Y.Fixer
this is the point exactly. How do we know what anyone else means unless we use the one common source of the meaning of the words we use in our language? I can see tristan really wishes the words mean something different to the rest of us, but it just hasn't happened yet. Linguistics and

Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread T . J . Johnson
My suggestion is to start a new topic about racism in music and use the webster or OED definition from the get-go. then maybe it would go more smoothly??? this is the point exactly. How do we know what anyone else means unless we use the one common source of the meaning of the words we use

Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread R.Y.Fixer
there are many better forums available on the Net for those with an interest in Discrimination in the Music Industry, racial or sexual or what have you. Seek them out, the discussions would be welcome there and might even have qualified, educated people to help you formulating your own opinions.

Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread T . J . Johnson
Eh. I don't personally really have an interest in discussing it unless I see a chance to crack a joke about it. It is interesting to read many of the posts though... On Fri, 08 March 2002, R.Y.Fixer wrote: there are many better forums available on the Net for those with an interest in

Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread Cyborg K
1 Concepts/words are not neutral, they are contested weapons which social forces use in struggles for power. There is no such thing as an objective/politically neutral linguistics, and meanings are not static. This is especially true of a loaded concept like racism. 2 From Deleuze and

Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-08 Thread Vince Woolums
in 'history'. These actions and epithets are not exclusive to white males. Vince Woolums Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business 1 Concepts/words are not neutral, they are contested weapons which social forces use in struggles for power. There is no such thing as an objective/politically

Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread Poivrenoir
Hello, Is it possible that this is the most ignorant person in America? How does the fact that Juan Atkins is an African American this excludes him from being racist? Where does this come from? ---BeginMessage--- Racism is a system of insitutionalized discrimination against one group by

Re: Fwd: Re: [313] Regarding Business

2002-03-07 Thread R.Y.Fixer
One entry found for racism. Main Entry: rac·ism Pronunciation: 'rA-si-zm also -shi- Function: noun Date: 1936 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice