> > The only things earlier were basscadet ep and the
> incunabula LP, leaving
> > cavity job out of this..
>
> Doh! My apologies. I should've remembered that, especially
> since at that
> time we were getting Autechre re-releases in the states a
> *long* time after
> the UK release date.
yup... more here : http://blindyouth.com/
Gwendal
> -Original Message-
> From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:34 AM
> To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313 Detroit
> Subject: RE: (313) Re: Cubik
>
>
> Would this include works
oit
>Subject: RE: (313) Re: Cubik
>
>
>> Or the fabulous re-issue of the Human League's Dare and Love
>> & Dancing... I
>> was a kid when Dare came out and listening to my mum's
>> records and she was
>> never convinced to get it, she liked Euryt
> Or the fabulous re-issue of the Human League's Dare and Love
> & Dancing... I
> was a kid when Dare came out and listening to my mum's
> records and she was
> never convinced to get it, she liked Eurythmics more. I am glad, I
> appreciate the experimental side more now!
>
> I don't mind the el
electroclash myself, like Ladytron are great.
> From: sean deason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: (313) Re: Cubik
> Date: 16/12/2002 22:09:52
> To: Dennis DeSantis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From:
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: (313) CJB and IDM was - Re: (313) Re: Cubik
>
> Anti ep was released before Amber!
>
>
> The only things earlier were basscadet ep and
Anti ep was released before Amber!
The only things earlier were basscadet ep and the incunabula LP, leaving
cavity job out of this..
Remco
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From: "K Money" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 6:28 AM
Subject: RE: (313) Re: Cubik
> This may be BS, but from what I recall, some of the early 90's IDM
> artists came about as a reacti
- Original Message -
From: "Dennis DeSantis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> And I never hear it done as well as I heard it done the
> first time. So if I want to hear that music, I'll listen to Yello, or
> Gary Numan, or Art of Noise, or Kraftwerk. If I want nostalgia, I'll
> take the stuff that
> sure, i have no problem, but the problem lies in the
> name "intelligent dance music". this assumes a few things:
>
> 1. you are making music to dance to
> 2. there is "non-intelligent" dance music
>
Hi,
I understand what you're saying here but consider that most IDM producers
wouldnt label the
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
sure, but so little music is just straight up derivative.
But I want it to be even less derivative. Revolution!
And yeah, that goes for my own music too...
sure alot of those musics you mention did do things in a new way.
however, you can sit down and listen and h
-- Original Message --
From: Dennis DeSantis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I claim the exact opposite - if a style of music is stricly all
about
>"TEN YEARS AGO" then its meaning a decade down the line is "wow,
that
>sounds 20 years old."
sure, but so little mus
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
if a style of music is strictly all
about "NOW" then its meaning a decade down the line doesnt mean a
thing.
I claim the exact opposite - if a style of music is stricly all about
"TEN YEARS AGO" then its meaning a decade down the line is "wow, that
sounds 20 years
mber 15, 2002 11:32 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Re: Cubik
-- Original Message --
From: Dennis DeSantis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sure, I'll agree with that. But my making this claim you must
realize
>that you've also com
-- Original Message --
From: Dennis DeSantis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I completely agree with your explanation. I just don't hear
these
>things as inherently negative.
>I tend to really enjoy music that struggles to break out of its
>inevitable connections w
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
here's the problem: IDM has gone from being more traditionally
techno/ambient based in the early 90's to being a reaction against
just about anything they feel like going against, mostly melody
and rhythm as far as i can tell. it seems (to me at least) that
its just
-- Original Message --
From: Dennis DeSantis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sure, I'll agree with that. But my making this claim you must
realize
>that you've also completely negated your original arguments,
which were:
>
>"its like they lose the history of the mu
I was never a fan of the break beat or drum n'bass but in 1993 I saw DJ
Danny Beakz and it definitely gave me new respect for what the genre was all
about which would eventually evolve into drum
n'bass.
The DMC scratching style with a live MC gave me new perspectiveon on break
beat which was essent
At 10:10 PM 12/15/2002, you wrote:
For sampling I still revere Looks Like We're Shy Own Horse by
Colourbox, the best spaghetti western dub tune of all time.
Also love the samples in the acid house era of PTV ("water,
that's what I'm talking about, water"; "now just a cotton-pickin'
minute!", and
For sampling I still revere Looks Like We're Shy Own Horse by
Colourbox, the best spaghetti western dub tune of all time.
Also love the samples in the acid house era of PTV ("water,
that's what I'm talking about, water"; "now just a cotton-pickin'
minute!", and the Bogart samples from Key Largo).
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
since all music
is moving along some sort of timeline where what exists before
somehow has some influence on even the "newest" music, its
impossible to say that any music is no longer having an effect on
the most avant garde music. its part of one huge puzzle, you cant
-- Original Message --
From: Dennis DeSantis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I'd qualify this by stating that, while music (and the general
>zeitgeist) tends to loop back somewhat, there is also an overarching
>sense of "two steps forward, one step back." And if you
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
its like they lose the history of the music altogether,
what happened in the past is no longer relevant, the only thing
that matters is what will happen tomorrow. IDM has some great
classic albums: surfing on sine waves, selected ambient works,
etc. but now the music has
-- Original Message --
From: techno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>On the subject of older techno like 808 State sounding dated, I
would say
>that is true especially with techno from the rave era.
>With electro, Detroit techno, and older Chicago house from the
Trax er
- Original Message -
From: "techno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> It reminds me of the Art Of Noise and Yellow in the 1980's, more about
> technology and experimentation than good music, the use of sampling was
> supposed to sound hip and sophisticated at the time but now sounds
extremely
> dated.
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