Re: Has anyone been using the V16 menu editor?

2017-02-24 Thread David Adams via 4D_Tech
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Menu bar editor is for baby programmers... > On behalf of baby programmers everywhere, let me say "Wh" ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D

Re: Has anyone been using the V16 menu editor?

2017-02-24 Thread Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech
Menu bar editor is for baby programmers... :) > On Feb 24, 2017, at 7:27 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Welcome to the world of the 4D Menu Editor. It works, but it has problems. It > is not the most robust editor window in the 4D Design environment. Same >

Re: Has anyone been using the V16 menu editor?

2017-02-24 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Feb 24, 2017, at 2:00 PM, David Adams wrote: > I just tried it today in a structure built from the ground up in V16. On > Mac. The menu editor is buggy to the point of nearly unusable. > > Has anyone been using the V16 version of this tool without trouble? Or, > contrarily, are there already

RE: Better variable names

2017-02-24 Thread Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech
> Does anyone know, is there an actual 'vote' mechanism, or are you just > supposed to put down a +1 post? This tech tip should help explain the difference between +1 and voting: Tech Tip: How to vote for a feature request http://kb.4d.com/assetid=76726 -Tim

Re: Has anyone been using the V16 menu editor?

2017-02-24 Thread Scott Staley via 4D_Tech
I recently tried to make a jump from v13 to v16 but abandoned the effort and went with v15.4. I ran into several issues that work without problems in v15.4. Some menu issues was one of the problems (ie. when calling edit users I would end up with the design menus and when my window management

Re: Better variable names

2017-02-24 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Yes! And let's not overlook the ever popular series of process arrays named aTemp1, aTemp2, aTemp3 ... even better because they are referenced by pointers referring to some other pointer initialized - someplace. (Deep breath) Ok, thanks for that moment. On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Herr

Re: Better variable names

2017-02-24 Thread Jim Dorrance via 4D_Tech
I hate working on other developer's code where I am expected to guess the type by its use and context. It is a waste of my time and therefore a waste of my client's money. It is often possible to correct/optimise code without understanding the context. I was a photographer in a previous life, and

Re: Better variable names

2017-02-24 Thread David Adams via 4D_Tech
> Am I insane because I start by search/replace variable names prior > to understand some code from another? If you're insane, I'm insane with you. I can't really "read" code. Maybe some people can. I can read methods, but visualizing how they fit together and work? That's harder. I like to dig

Re: Better variable names

2017-02-24 Thread Arnaud de Montard via 4D_Tech
> Le 24 févr. 2017 à 09:12, Herr Alexander Heintz via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a écrit : > > [...] > Concerning the descriptor, I have found it more useful to have that up front, > spearated by underscore: > > $t_myText > $al_myLongArray > o_processObject > > etc. > Why? > 3 reasons:

Re: Better variable names

2017-02-24 Thread Herr Alexander Heintz via 4D_Tech
quite interesting read, thanks. The value of sensible naming never shows more strongly when you have to work with OPC (Other Peoples Code) and find generic variables like S_1 or AR1 that are used in changing roles throughout the code and are an incredible pain to debug, or even replace…