Re: Setting a detail subform's scroll position programmatically

2017-09-08 Thread Piotr Chabot Stadhouders via 4D_Tech
> On Jul 18, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Jeff Grann wrote: > > 4Dv14/v15 > > There doesn't seem to be a way to set a detail subform's scroll position > programmatically. OBJECT SET SCROLL POSITION doesn't work with detail > subforms. > > Am I missing something? Is there a workaround? > Dear Jeff

Re: 4D dot releases versus R releases - a metaphor

2017-09-08 Thread Doug Hall via 4D_Tech
What's wrong with using semantic versioning, like the rest of the entire freaking world? On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Not to drill too deeply, but no new features != no new changes. 16.2 for > instance updates the Xerces engine, which appar

Re: 4D dot releases versus R releases - a metaphor

2017-09-08 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
exactly... can't be the asme (same) :) On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 08:41:01 -0500, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech wrote: > What's wrong with using semantic versioning, like the rest of the entire > freaking world? --- Gas is for washing parts Alcohol is for drinkin' Nitromethane is for racing **

Re: 4D dot releases versus R releases - a metaphor

2017-09-08 Thread David Adams via 4D_Tech
On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 11:41 PM, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > wrote: > What's wrong with using semantic versioning, like the rest of the entire > freaking world? > Wait, are you saying that just because something has been confusing for years, offers no obvious benefits to anyone,

Re: 4D dot releases versus R releases - a metaphor

2017-09-08 Thread Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech
No, it’s just Friday… > On Sep 8, 2017, at 7:20 AM, David Adams via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 11:41 PM, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com >> wrote: > >> What's wrong with using semantic versioning, like the rest of the entire >> freaking world?

OBJECT get variable type

2017-09-08 Thread Piotr Chabot Stadhouders via 4D_Tech
Hi, V16 Maybe this is a stupid question but I just don't see it : When putting a variable on a form and set a variable name to t I attach a variable to the object, for example a C_TEXT variable However, there is also a property "Variable Type", that doesn't necessarily has to be of type text, b

Re: [OFF] PCI/DSS compliance

2017-09-08 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Hi Keith, I'm just getting back around to this - I like the idea of a VPN. I have three locations I need to accomodate and have to admit I haven't done anything with a VPN so if you'll allow me to ask some pretty naive questions: Did you set up the VPN just within the router or get an actual VPN s

Re: [OFF] PCI/DSS compliance

2017-09-08 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
I find the idea that it is necessary to implement PCI ironic, when Equifax just lost the SS numbers, and other personal data of over 140,000,000 people. On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 11:38:38 -0700, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech wrote: > Hi Keith, > I'm just getting back around to this - I like the idea of a VP

Re: [OFF] PCI/DSS compliance

2017-09-08 Thread Balinder Walia via 4D_Tech
...and Equifax data breach included credit card numbers too. On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 at 20:17, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > I find the idea that it is necessary to implement PCI ironic, when > Equifax just lost the SS numbers, and other personal data of over > 140,000,000 p

Re: [OFF] PCI/DSS compliance

2017-09-08 Thread Sannyasin Siddhanathaswami via 4D_Tech
Guess they weren’t PCI compliant… PCI compliance is a huge pain. I highly recommend taking the route of not doing charges in house. It avoids most of the issues. Sannyasin Siddhanathaswami On Sep 8, 2017, 9:17 AM -1000, wrote: I find the idea that it is necessary to implement PCI ironic, when

Server Process "Frozen"-ish

2017-09-08 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
I’ve seen something odd since upgrading our customers to v16.1 a few months ago. This is on 64-bit server, both platforms. There are a few background processes that continually run on the servers, waking up every few seconds to see if there is work to be done. This has worked without problem for

RE: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

2017-09-08 Thread Stephen J. Orth via 4D_Tech
Cannon, I can provide only antidotal information, but we too are seeing something like this. We happen to be using V15 R5, which is basically V16, however since upgrading to it we have seen A LOT of server related issues that we have never encountered before. The code ran just fine in V13...

Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

2017-09-08 Thread BTB-David via 4D_Tech
We started seeing the same problem when we upgraded to v15R5 too. A process that ran for years on older versions just like Cannon described just stopped doing it’s thing. A reboot resolves it. We are seeing it on 32 bit server Mac & Windows. Thanks! David Conley By The Book, Inc. Office: 81

Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

2017-09-08 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
I jumped from v15.x where it was working fine to v16.1. Since you’re at v15 r5, maybe it was something that was introduced in one of the v15 R releases. I haven’t posted anything before because I don’t have much that is concrete, but it has happened enough to know something is going on. Thanks.

Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

2017-09-08 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
Hi David, How about timing? Just once every two-three months per server like us? Thanks. -- Cannon.Smith Synergy Farm Solutions Inc. Hill Spring, AB Canada 403-626-3236 > On Sep 8, 2017, at 3:19 PM, BTB-David via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > We started seeing the same proble

RE: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

2017-09-08 Thread Stephen J. Orth via 4D_Tech
Cannon, I'm in the same boat. I cannot provide enough information to support a 4D TS case, but something is not right...stability has gone to hell. I've gone from using 2004 which was rock solid, to progressively less stable conditions, to where now with V15 R5 I literally have someone loggin

Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

2017-09-08 Thread BTB-Gmail via 4D_Tech
Steve, I am seeing it in v15R5 as well as v16.0 build 16.209177. We plan on our next release to be on v16.2 but we’re not there yet. Thanks! David Conley By The Book, Inc. Office: 815-234-7530 Direct Line: 815-406-5502 Fax: 815-234-7532 http://www.bythebook.com > On Sep 8, 2017, at 4:23 PM

Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

2017-09-08 Thread BTB-David via 4D_Tech
Cannon, I would say about that yes. We have several server processes and only one gets called to our attention for not working. No one complains about the others and I haven’t looked into it to see if they have stopped too and no one noticed or if they are still happily working. I’ve been me

Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

2017-09-08 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
Okay. I guess it’s nice to know I’m not the only one seeing this. Sorry for you guys, though! :-) -- Cannon.Smith Synergy Farm Solutions Inc. Hill Spring, AB Canada 403-626-3236 > On Sep 8, 2017, at 3:33 PM, BTB-David wrote: > > I would say about that yes. We have several server processes

Re: [OFF] PCI/DSS compliance

2017-09-08 Thread Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech
Compliance consisted of answering an online questionnaire and passing the scan. Not storing customer credit card information made a big difference in lowering the "level" of security that we had to meet (Equifax level). It made the questionnaire part much easier to pass. Our cable modem sends

Re: OBJECT get variable type

2017-09-08 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
Hello, the variable type property serves two purposes: to filter the display in the property list, and to declare the data source variable type in case no variable name is defined. otherwise, you only need to know OBJECT Get type which is constant for the object, and OBJECT Get pointer which t

Re: [OFF] PCI/DSS compliance

2017-09-08 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 8, 2017, at 4:23 PM,Chip Scheide wrote: > I find the idea that it is necessary to implement PCI ironic, when > Equifax just lost the SS numbers, and other personal data of over > 140,000,000 people. I checked the website they published and it says my information was stolen. So now I hav

Re: [OFF] PCI/DSS compliance

2017-09-08 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 8, 2017, at 4:23 PM,Balinder Walia wrote: > ...and Equifax data breach included credit card numbers too. The credit card companies will have to eat all of this. At least in America, if you report your credit card has been stolen, they will remove any bogus charges. It is a pain-in-the-as

Re: [OFF] PCI/DSS compliance

2017-09-08 Thread John DeSoi via 4D_Tech
Experian did this as well (on a smaller scale) a few years ago. Same response, "sorry about that, we will give you a year of free credit monitoring". When I looked into what they asked for to sign up for "free" credit monitoring, it just looked like another opportunity to have my data hacked fro

Re: [OFF] PCI/DSS compliance

2017-09-08 Thread Paul Ringsmuth via 4D_Tech
Consumer Reports says, "A massive data breach at Equifax compromised sensitive data for nearly half of all U.S. consumers — including names, social security numbers, birth dates, addresses, and the numbers of some driver's licenses. Hundreds of thousands of credit card numbers were also comprom

Re: Server Process "Frozen"-ish

2017-09-08 Thread Milan Adamov via 4D_Tech
On Sep 8, 2017, at 23:22, Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > I jumped from v15.x where it was working fine to v16.1. Since you’re at v15 > r5, maybe it was something that was introduced in one of the v15 R releases. Are you using GRAPH command in that process? I handled o