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Betreff: 4D Shell or not so much...?
It was recently suggested to me that the value of using a 4D-based shell is
less important now… and that I should consider new 4D applications from
scratch. I’ve created more apps with a shell than without with great
s
Scott and Jody, thanks for sharing.
Robert
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 10:49 PM, Scott Staley wrote:
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> I'm currently trying to build a shell (mostly complete) and so I thought I
> would share some of my thoughts.
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nion the
databrowser component provides a couple of examples of how components/shells
remain beneficial.
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Robert
Yes, we are starting with a new structure. That way we have to put our eyes on
everything. Yes we do grab things over as works between versions.
We always have a clean copy of the shell. This is we can start a new project,
as well if we get a great idea we can put it into the shell befor
On Aug 31, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Robert ListMail wrote:
> Hi Tim, thanks for the input. I suppose that you don’t maintain a copy of the
> pure shell and that you manually move (drag/drop or copy/paste) over the
> shell elements (from the previous project) each time—yes?
That’s exactly right. I op
Understood—thanks! BTW: this is a reminder to use components more.
Robert
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 4:59 PM, Kirk Brooks wrote:
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> I forgot to include Canon Smith's OBJ component. Until that functionality
> is baked into 4D it's required.
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I forgot to include Canon Smith's OBJ component. Until that functionality
is baked into 4D it's required.
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Kirk Brooks wrote:
> Coupled with 4DPop it makes for a pretty robust starting point for me.
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Robet,
Custom alerts, date & time manipulation methods, formatting, string
operations, file ops, lots of listbox tools, math functions, form object
and c-obj tools, a number of other little things like that and a set of
developer tools and palettes I like. Coupled with 4DPop it makes for a
pretty r
Kirk, what core functionality does your component provide?
Thanks,
Robert
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Kirk Brooks wrote:
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> I've condensed many of mine into a single component I can drop into a
> database to provide things I like to have and lots of core functionality.
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Hi Tim, thanks for the input. I suppose that you don’t maintain a copy of the
pure shell and that you manually move (drag/drop or copy/paste) over the shell
elements (from the previous project) each time—yes? BTW: I used G4 Shell back
in the day (1992 or so) and then Foundation on several proje
Robert,
I'll echo what the others are saying - and meaning no disrespect to anyone
- I think the landscape of 4D development is changing so quickly these days
it's tough to think about using a full featured shell.
Like Tim said depending on your skills, preferences and needs you'll
develop (discov
Jody,
When you “make the shell up again” are you starting with a new structure and
dragging (or copying) over the objects that are not being redesigned? Are you
maintaining a copy of the shell that is purely the shell…?
Thanks,
Robert
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Jody Bevan wrote:
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> We
On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Robert ListMail wrote:
> It was recently suggested to me that the value of using a 4D-based shell is
> less important now… and that I should consider new 4D applications from
> scratch. I’ve created more apps with a shell than without with great
> success—that is, I
Robert
I would think that ones programming skills with 4D, are you familiar with the
shell, and how good the shell is for the intended project.
I have used a shell once for a project. Documentation of the shell was the
killer, then he time to get to know it.
Thereafter we developed our own she
It was recently suggested to me that the value of using a 4D-based shell is
less important now… and that I should consider new 4D applications from
scratch. I’ve created more apps with a shell than without with great
success—that is, I’ve been a shell guy for the most part snd i do see the
valu
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