Re: PING of life...

2021-01-17 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
> On 18 /01 /2021, at 18:41, Bernd Fröhlich via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > > I really like this mailing list but the one thing I hate about it is, that > some people just don´t know how to qoute and often leave the whole digest in > their answer. So the next digest just

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2021-01-17 Thread Bernd Fröhlich via 4D_Tech
SPC: > That is one of the reasons I like this forum. I really like this mailing list but the one thing I hate about it is, that some people just don´t know how to qoute and often leave the whole digest in their answer. So the next digest just contains that one mail plus the quoted previous

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2021-01-17 Thread Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech
> There is a dark mode setting in 4d discuss preferences. That seems to only work for the web and does not apply to email messages. Neil ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com Archive:

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2021-01-17 Thread Lo via 4D_Tech
Well, if Lahav Isn't here then that is good enough for me. I'm not here either... Always like to hang out with the cool old timers. Love and kisses Lo -- I'm not on here, so I wouldn't know , and Jörg, carful with labeling us dinosaur/old timers, we are just well seasoned. Lahav

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2021-01-16 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
go to preferences, select interface, switch theme to "dark" https://imgur.com/OLQ6jVg ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options:

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2021-01-16 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Arnaud - is that the one labeled: "Camus"? On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 5:18 AM Arnaud de Montard via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > Le 15 janv. 2021 à 16:54, Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > a écrit : > > > > My last complaint, and it is minor is that I use dark mode on

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2021-01-16 Thread SPC via 4D_Tech
Forgot to erase the detritus that attaches to using the reply button. And there was a lot of it, wasn’t there!? My apologies. Steven ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com Archive:

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2021-01-16 Thread lists via 4D_Tech
" back in 21016"??? Is that back to the future?  -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com> On Behalf Of SPC via 4D_Tech Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 2:53 PM To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com Cc: SPC Subject: Re: PING of life... Thanks all

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2021-01-16 Thread SPC via 4D_Tech
gt; 4d_tech-ow...@lists.4d.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of 4D_Tech digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: PING of life... (John DeSoi) > 2. Re: PING of life... (Neil Dennis)

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2021-01-16 Thread Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech
> On Jan 15, 2021, at 9:54 AM, Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I set my settings yesterday day to mute non-English… it made me smile today > when I opened up my email and could read every message :) How? I have checked my email settings and I can’t find anything

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2021-01-16 Thread Arnaud de Montard via 4D_Tech
> Le 15 janv. 2021 à 16:54, Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a > écrit : > > My last complaint, and it is minor is that I use dark mode on my computer. There is a dark mode setting in 4d discuss preferences. -- Arnaud

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2021-01-15 Thread Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech
On Jan 15, 2021, at 9:01 AM, Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Chuck, > >> On Jan 15, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech >> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: >> >> OK I think we should start by going all the way back. I can be reached at >> ,7 my

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2021-01-15 Thread Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech
Chuck, > On Jan 15, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > OK I think we should start by going all the way back. I can be reached at > ,7 my old compuserv account. Boy wish I remembered it for real, > or perhaps when list was run outside of

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2021-01-15 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
OK I think we should start by going all the way back. I can be reached at ,7 my old compuserv account. Boy wish I remembered it for real, or perhaps when list was run outside of 4D by Karen (sorry don’t remember her last name) Regards Chuck

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2021-01-15 Thread Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech
I set my settings yesterday day to mute non-English… it made me smile today when I opened up my email and could read every message :) My last complaint, and it is minor is that I use dark mode on my computer. The new list insists on using a white background and black text, it is really bright

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2021-01-15 Thread Arnaud de Montard via 4D_Tech
It works the other way round :-) -- Arnaud de Montard > Le 15 janv. 2021 à 13:17, Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a > écrit : > > I have all non-English conversations muted as well, but I’m still given the > opportunity to test my rusty schoolboy French every now and

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2021-01-15 Thread Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech
I have all non-English conversations muted as well, but I’m still given the opportunity to test my rusty schoolboy French every now and again. It’s quite fun. Jeremy Roussak Photography: jbr.is > On 14 Jan 2021, at 21:50, Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > >> Under

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2021-01-15 Thread Marcus Straßmann via 4D_Tech
+1 Marcus > Am 13.01.2021 um 17:36 schrieb Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>: > > I count as an old timer. > > Count me in. > > Jody Bevan MacStrass - Marcus Straßmann Softwareentwicklung und Beratung Auf der Markscheide 35 D-44807 Bochum Mobil: +49 (173) 374 39 92 eMail:

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2021-01-14 Thread Janet Jonas via 4D_Tech
t; >>> To: Randy Kaempen mailto:ra...@intellexcorp.com>> >>> Cc: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com <mailto:4d_tech@lists.4d.com>>, >>> Graham Langley >>> mailto:m...@grahamlangley.co.uk>> >>> Subject: Re: PING of

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2021-01-14 Thread THOMAS BENEDICT via 4D_Tech
d_tech@lists.4d.com <mailto:4d_tech@lists.4d.com>>, > > Graham Langley > > mailto:m...@grahamlangley.co.uk>> > > Subject: Re: PING of life... > > Message-ID: <0134a761-e33c-4b7d-90ce-d27d5d38c...@greatext.com > > <mailto:0134a761-e33c-4b7d-

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2021-01-14 Thread Janet Jonas via 4D_Tech
2 > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 10:26:42 -0700 > From: Neil Dennis mailto:npden...@greatext.com>> > To: Randy Kaempen mailto:ra...@intellexcorp.com>> > Cc: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com <mailto:4d_tech@lists.4d.com>>, > Graham Langley > m

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2021-01-14 Thread Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech
> Under Notifications/Categories on the left, select which categories you want > to watch and which ones to mute. I just implemented the muted options, thank you for pointing these out :) Neil ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D

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2021-01-14 Thread John DeSoi via 4D_Tech
Step 1 is to create an account on the forum if you don't have one. Then login and click on your user account icon at the top right. The rightmost icon in this popup (looks like a person) is for Preferences. Then click "Preferences" in the sublist. Under Notifications/Categories on the left,

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2021-01-14 Thread SPC via 4D_Tech
Happy New Year everybody! I don’t know about the rest of you, but all of this kvetching sounds like a bunch of alte Kakers to me! Can anyone add to what John advised regarding having the Discussions and Forum content come to me via e-mail. I have not received a forum e-mail to reply to.

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2021-01-14 Thread Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech
> Agreed. That’s the main thing that puts me off. I just want to see English > messages and not all the other clutter. John commented on setting up your email only for the English forum… I may have missed this step, I wlll see if I can find it. Neil

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2021-01-14 Thread Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech
Neil, > On Jan 14, 2021, at 9:36 AM, Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > One think I do like about this group vs the other group is that, with very > few exceptions, I can read all of the messages because I can understand the > language. > > I only speak two

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2021-01-14 Thread John DeSoi via 4D_Tech
The new forum supports email and it works well. I rarely visit the forum unless I want to post something with with code or attachments. Simply reply to the forum email to participate in the conversation. This list and the new forum go to my same mailbox with no real difference other than [4D

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2021-01-14 Thread nug via 4D_Tech
IMHO, it is simpler, easier, and later a more local reference to have all of the various "support" that used to be provided here, and is now on discuss, come TO me, rather then having to go get it. if there is a topic of interest, or immediate need, the answer(s) come to me, rather then having

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2021-01-14 Thread Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech
One think I do like about this group vs the other group is that, with very few exceptions, I can read all of the messages because I can understand the language. I only speak two languages, English and Gilbertese… there are no Gilbertese messages. So I spend time on at the other place (not a

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2021-01-14 Thread Graham Langley via 4D_Tech
And anyway, if you are the same Jörg Knebel on the discuss site (guessing you are in my smart-arse old-timer way), you use the site regularly to view posts, so you must consider it a decent resource. A tad hypocritical imo as I would call that participating, albeit silently. But hey ho, we can

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2021-01-14 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
> On 14 /01 /2021, at 19:26, Graham Langley via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I find your reply unfriendly, you don't get that on the discuss site old man. You're allowed to have your opinion! Cheers Jörg **

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2021-01-14 Thread Herr Alexander Heintz via 4D_Tech
Am 14.01.2021 um 08:55 schrieb Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>: > > >> On 14 /01 /2021, at 18:42, Graham Langley via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> wrote: >> >> I find it odd that a subset of developers on this "forum" is a good thing. > > Let time be the judge of that.

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2021-01-14 Thread Graham Langley via 4D_Tech
I find your reply unfriendly, you don't get that on the discuss site old man. -- Sent from: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/4D-Tech-f1376241.html ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com Archive:

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2021-01-13 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
> On 14 /01 /2021, at 18:42, Graham Langley via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I find it odd that a subset of developers on this "forum" is a good thing. Let time be the judge of that. > I love the discuss site, No one forces you to participate here! > We should also welcome

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2021-01-13 Thread Graham Langley via 4D_Tech
Considering how small the 4D developer community is, I find it odd that a subset of developers on this "forum" is a good thing. I love the discuss site, and it's the place to be for anything V18. We should also welcome "smart-arse newbies". Pretty sure we've all whined in the past about the lack

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2021-01-13 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
Lahav, > On 14 /01 /2021, at 10:24, lists via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > and Jörg, carful with labeling us dinosaur/old timers, we are just well > seasoned….. You’re right. :o) I’m sure all the dumb-click-newbies see that different. Cheers Jörg

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2021-01-13 Thread lists via 4D_Tech
:13 PM To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Cc: THOMAS BENEDICT Subject: Re: PING of life... Yeah, I still monitor this list, but there is very little activity. And if there’s no activity, what’s the point? I actually like the new discuss forum. In fact, I like it a lot. I like

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2021-01-13 Thread Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech
> I must have missed an important episode here, because I don’t understand what > that statement means. Was there a controversy at some point? Was it recent? > Or years ago? There was some heated debate recently regarding html vs pdf documentation… I’m assuming that is what is referred here.

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2021-01-13 Thread THOMAS BENEDICT via 4D_Tech
Yeah, I still monitor this list, but there is very little activity. And if there’s no activity, what’s the point? I actually like the new discuss forum. In fact, I like it a lot. I like the ability to post pictures and formatted code. I also like that there are lots of engaged 4D developers,

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2021-01-13 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
Just remember, we were all smart ass newbies at some point. Sill here but mostly on discuss Chuck Chuck Miller Voice: (617) 739-0306 Informed Solutions, Inc. Fax: (617) 232-1064

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2021-01-13 Thread Clive Wilson via 4D_Tech
Still here. From Florida USA Clive Wilson ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub:

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2021-01-13 Thread Bernd Fröhlich via 4D_Tech
> count me in :) Yup, me too. Cheers from Germany, Bernd Fröhlich ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options:

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2021-01-13 Thread Doug Cottrill via 4D_Tech
sure, count me in. DKC > On Jan 13, 2021, at 11:36 AM, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I count as an old timer. > > Count me in. > > Jody Bevan > >> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> wrote: >> >> G’day, >> >> Are

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2021-01-13 Thread Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech
I count as an old timer. Count me in. Jody Bevan > On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > G’day, > > Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent > discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the

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2021-01-13 Thread Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech
Yep > On Jan 13, 2021, at 4:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > G’day, > > Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent > discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the forum? > > I’m following the lead of my

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2021-01-13 Thread Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech
I haven’t left Neil > On Jan 13, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > G’day, > > Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent > discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the forum? > > I’m following the

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2021-01-13 Thread Ken Geiger Gmail via 4D_Tech
G’day to you! I’m still here as well. Ken Geiger Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 13, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > G’day, > > Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent > discussions without that white noise and

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2021-01-13 Thread Reiner Kief via 4D_Tech
So am I, since the CompuServe times. And I'm not planning to quit. Reiner Kief Connectivity GmbH Germany Am 13.01.21, 14:04 schrieb "4D_Tech im Auftrag von Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech" <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com im Auftrag von 4d_tech@lists.4d.com>: I’m on the list as well.

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2021-01-13 Thread Pascal Geuns via 4D_Tech
Another ping from an old timer :-) Kind Regards Pascal Geuns QualitySSL Meet me on LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/pascalgeuns > On 13 Jan 2021, at 14.04, Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I’m on the list as well. > >

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2021-01-13 Thread Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech
I’m on the list as well. Randy Kaempen Intellex Corporation > On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > G’day, > > Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent > discussions without that white noise and smart-arse

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2021-01-13 Thread nug via 4D_Tech
count me in :) > On Jan 13, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > G’day, > > Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent > discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the forum? > > I’m following the lead

PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
G’day, Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the forum? I’m following the lead of my neighbour David Adams and don’t participate in the forum any more. Question is, are there other oldies willing to