Re: [64studio-users] CPU freq scaling - Setting SUID required or not required?

2009-06-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Gustin Johnson wrote: I don't think so. Why do you think SUID needs to be set? Setting SUID is a very bad thing, even if you think you need it. To chose by click between 'Ondemand' and 'Performance' for a user session by using the GNOME panel applet 'CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor' seems

Re: [64studio-users] CPU freq scaling - Setting SUID required or not required?

2009-06-29 Thread Robin Gareus
Ralf Mardorf wrote: Gustin Johnson wrote: I don't think so. Why do you think SUID needs to be set? Setting SUID is a very bad thing, even if you think you need it. To chose by click between 'Ondemand' and 'Performance' for a user session by using the GNOME panel applet 'CPU Frequency

Re: [64studio-users] CPU freq scaling - Setting SUID required or not required?

2009-06-29 Thread Robin Gareus
Ralf Mardorf wrote: Robin Gareus wrote: Ralf Mardorf wrote: Gustin Johnson wrote: I don't think so. Why do you think SUID needs to be set? Setting SUID is a very bad thing, even if you think you need it. To chose by click between 'Ondemand' and 'Performance' for a user

Re: [64studio-users] CPU freq scaling - Setting SUID required or not required?

2009-06-29 Thread Michael Jarosch
Am Montag, den 29.06.2009, 14:09 +0200 schrieb Robin Gareus: I never switch these anyway. Just using 'ondemand' is sufficient. It's got the best powersaving and no impact on performance (at least not on Intel CPUs). We discussed that issue on the 64studio-list several time ago and (I guess it

Re: [64studio-users] CPU freq scaling - Setting SUID required or not required?

2009-06-29 Thread Gustin Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Jarosch wrote: Am Montag, den 29.06.2009, 08:08 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: There might be a better way to do it. There will be a better way to do it: Later versions (but certainly not that of 8.04) of the Frequency Scaling Monitor

Re: [64studio-users] CPU freq scaling - Setting SUID required or not required?

2009-06-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Gustin Johnson wrote: I did not know that AMD could do this, perhaps they got something right with AM2 after all. I never monitored that my AM2 Athlon does or does not an independent control of the frequency scaling for each core, it seems to be, that it doesn't do it.

Re: [64studio-users] CPU freq scaling - Setting SUID required or not required?

2009-06-29 Thread Robin Gareus
Ralf Mardorf wrote: Gustin Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Jarosch wrote: Am Montag, den 29.06.2009, 08:08 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: There might be a better way to do it. There will be a better way to do it: Later versions (but

Re: [64studio-users] CPU freq scaling - Setting SUID required or not required?

2009-06-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Gustin Johnson wrote: AppArmor and a firewall are redundant? The phrase defense in depth is not just a sales term, every level needs to be protected. Microsoft understands this as well, perhaps better than most. If AppArmor and a Firewall are needed, than I can't understand that they are

Re: [64studio-users] CPU freq scaling - Setting SUID required or not required?

2009-06-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Robin Gareus wrote: I'm not sure if /etc/hdparm.conf accepts wildcards, but I'd hazard a guess that /dev/discs/disc*/disc { spindown_time = 240 } may be a good default for 64studio. No, I don't want the disk drive that I'm using is being turned off, even if I won't use it four

Re: [64studio-users] CPU freq scaling - Setting SUID required or not required?

2009-06-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
How can this be done for the panel applet? apt-get install gksu-polkit The idea to set SUID results from the fact, that there is no PolicyKit for Hardy. SUID is made for such cases. The probable security risk for a multi user system is, that some user could harm the system, but it's

Re: [64studio-users] CPU freq scaling - Setting SUID required or not required?

2009-06-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Ralf Mardorf wrote: How can this be done for the panel applet? apt-get install gksu-polkit The idea to set SUID results from the fact, that there is no PolicyKit for Hardy. SUID is made for such cases. The probable security risk for a multi user system is, that some