A standalone statically linked binary is going to be considerable larger
while
in flight over data links.
But that static binary only flies once, geting sucked into memory
with a (mostly) simple bcopy equiv at process launch time. Shared
memory regimes thrash the living daylights out of MMUs a
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A standalone statically linked binary is going to be considerable larger
> while
> in flight over data links.
>
ah yes well maybe.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/mtelnet> ls -l `which emacs`
-rwxr-xr-t 1 root root 4587528 2006-06
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 3, 2008, at 9:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>> Frankly, I was trying to see whether an external process reading
>>> on somebody else's /proc/n/note would make any sense. One thing
>>> that I wanted to implem
On Nov 3, 2008, at 5:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A thought ...
Shared libraries do 2 possibly useful things:
1) save space
2) stop you having to re-link when a new library is released.
Now 2) doesn't really happen anyway, due to .so versioning hell,
so we're left with 1) ...
I know it's ki
On Nov 3, 2008, at 9:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frankly, I was trying to see whether an external process reading
on somebody else's /proc/n/note would make any sense. One thing
that I wanted to implement was a "note thief" process that would
constantly read on a target's /proc/n/note and han
On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:00 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
i don't think the kernel has this level of control.
let's suppose that we have a process that gets a stop message
that's doing i/o. let's suppose that it's doing io to a particularly
cranky device with lots of neat locks that really hates gettin
On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:01 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
I'm asking is -- "dear kernel, please don't advance this process even
if you otherwise can". All I need is a frozen state so that I can
not so easy on a multiprocessor. (unless you turn all but one
processor off.)
Hm. May be its getting late
> I'm asking is -- "dear kernel, please don't advance this process even
> if you otherwise can". All I need is a frozen state so that I can
not so easy on a multiprocessor. (unless you turn all but one
processor off.)
- erik
> I'm glad you've asked ;-) In fact, there's a bigger context and it is
> around managing processes run by cpu(1) from the terminal host. I was
> planning on writing an email on that subject to this list over the
> weekend but I need to amass some level of intelligence in that area
> first.
>
> F
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 18:48 +, Brian L. Stuart wrote:
> > > > Frankly, I was trying to see whether an external process reading
> > > > on somebody else's /proc/n/note would make any sense. One thing
> > > > that I wanted to implement was a "note thief" process that would
> > > > constantly read
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 17:01 -0800, ron minnich wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > when somebody tries to stop a process that is waiting for the IO the process
> > doesn't get transferred to a Stopped state immediately but only when
> > the sched
i dug out the code i wrote some time ago to read cpu
temperature (or the closest stand in for it i could find)
on most modern amd and intel processors. it's wrapped
up with a change to extend the model macro so that
conroe l processors don't appear to be xeons.
/n/sources/contrib/quanstro/src/9/p
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Make that "Get off of my Wifi!"
Those crazy kids with their Hulu loops.
-J
At IWP9 I demonstrated a certain condition where Inferno and drawterm
would fail to start up the gui environment w/o entering a nice
spinning cursor on Leopard.
As it turns out, there is a third party application that causes this
case to rear it's ugly head: Audio Hijack Pro (fantastic app
A suggestion for the next app to be supported in linuxemu: DjVu.
Since we don't have a C++ compiler outside of older versions of gcc,
getting a linux version of DjVuLibre up and running would be fantastic.
-jas
On Nov 4, 2008, at 6:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ah come on, PDFs are so 2002,
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Sorry, it also covers Runes.
On Nov 4, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote:
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This only covers files, processes, and little else. I began a part
on segme
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Kim Shrier wrote:
Maybe I'm getting too old... Hey you kids! Get off of my lawn.
Make that "Get off of my Wifi!"
--lyndon (in firm denial of becoming a legitimate 'grey beard')
ah come on, PDFs are so 2002, where's the you tube video?
-eric
On Nov 4, 2008 5:54pm, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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This only covers files, processes, and little else. I began a part o
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This only covers files, processes, and little else. I began a part on
segments, but I don't know if it will stay. I haven't touched it since
August, but I plan to start it again perhaps in a few days.
-
> Thanks alot, people in comp.os.plan9 are much more polite then in
> comp.os.vms.
>
>
you should not be too sure about that *g*
On Nov 4, 2008, at 9:02 AM, ron minnich wrote:
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Andrew Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I don't want to imply that Ron is quite such an old fart as me, but
somehow I don't get the impression that he was a kid in 1981, when
"Time Bandits" came out. Ron, if you
On Nov 4, 7:06 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Raschke) wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Nolan Hamilton
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Can somebody give me instructions on
> > 1. How can I can configure mail? ( and do not just redirect me to the
> > wiki page on it.)
>
> :-)
>
> Do you
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Nolan Hamilton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can somebody give me instructions on
> 1. How can I can configure mail? ( and do not just redirect me to the
> wiki page on it.)
:-)
Do you mean reading mail or setting up a mail server? For the former,
the easiest is to
Can somebody give me instructions on
1. How can I can configure mail? ( and do not just redirect me to the
wiki page on it.)
2. How can I read newsgroups on plan9?
Internet works and everything.
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> i think it's a tradition at this point to use 0x20 and not 0x00 to
>> fill a fixed-with signature. ata identify device uses 0x20 to fill
>> out fixed-width fields like the serial number. i'd be interested
>> where this tr
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I wish I could remember. It had the usual guys in silvery suits. They
> > walk through a frame and are back in time. Key point was, at the end,
> > that they ended up escaping
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Eris Discordia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Attempts to live boot Plan 9 on the same machine fail because
> some 9wacko believes CD-ROM drives must be secondary master or
> something--and I won't move a jumper to suit a 9wacko's whim; not that I've
> ever been asked
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Andrew Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't want to imply that Ron is quite such an old fart as me, but
> somehow I don't get the impression that he was a kid in 1981, when
> "Time Bandits" came out. Ron, if you could give some clue as to when
> you saw the
I can run Plan 9 quite nicely in 128 MB of RAM. In the same amount of
memory FreeBSD is paging nightmare, despite it's wonderfully complex
shared library environment.
You're wrong. Case in point: my FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE installation on a 233
MHz PII (one of those Slot 1 processors) with 128 MB o
>ut I used both of you commands, no error messages
ip/ipconfig -D
will print a little bit more (and i mean `a', `little' and `bit')
i think it's a tradition at this point to use 0x20 and not 0x00 to
fill a fixed-with signature. ata identify device uses 0x20 to fill
out fixed-width fields like the serial number. i'd be interested
where this tradition popped up. 0 would make more sense.
I risk being wrong--as always--and sa
On Nov 4, 3:39 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pietro Gagliardi) wrote:
> On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hi, I just recently fell in love with plan9, it's a great operating
> > system, However there are somethings I do not know how to do.
>
> > 1. How can I get internet through
On Nov 4, 3:39 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pietro Gagliardi) wrote:
> On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hi, I just recently fell in love with plan9, it's a great operating
> > system, However there are somethings I do not know how to do.
>
> > 1. How can I get internet through
"time travel" plots reminds me of an obscure but splendid czech film that i've
only seen once
http://filmjournal.net/czech/2006/09/18/tomorrow-ill-wake-up-and-scald-myself-with-tea/
but have yet to find on DVD. it is very funny.
On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I just recently fell in love with plan9, it's a great operating
system, However there are somethings I do not know how to do.
1. How can I get internet through a ethernet cord?(I am not sure
which ethernet card I have , but the computer
Hi, I just recently fell in love with plan9, it's a great operating
system, However there are somethings I do not know how to do.
1. How can I get internet through a ethernet cord?(I am not sure
which ethernet card I have , but the computer I have is a Dell
Dimension 1100.)
2. Were can I get a
>> Is there any way I can poke the target process so that it gets attention
>> from the scheduler an can be put in a Stopped state?
>
> I know, I know we all don't like those guys who talk to themselves
> on mailing lists replying to their own emails, but since there were
> no takers here's what
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:15:04 +1300 "Andrew Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't want to imply that Ron is quite such an old fart as me, but
> somehow I don't get the impression that he was a kid in 1981, when
> "Time Bandits" came out. Ron, if you could give some clue as to when
> you saw
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