Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-12-01 Thread blstuart
> On Mon Dec 1 12:10:13 EST 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > P.S. Speaking of Inferno -- I have always wanted to run it >> > natively on these puppies: >> > http://www.sunspotworld.com/ >> >> That's a seriously cool idea. I just discovered we >> have a dev kit here at work. I can't say

Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-12-01 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Dec 1 12:10:13 EST 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > P.S. Speaking of Inferno -- I have always wanted to run it > > natively on these puppies: > > http://www.sunspotworld.com/ > > That's a seriously cool idea. I just discovered we > have a dev kit here at work. I can't say for sure

Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9?

2008-12-01 Thread Russ Cox
> Russ, could, you please be a tad more specific as to what ill > exactly are you referring to? I was referring to needing special privilege to mount something. > While I agree that Plan9 completely removes the need for > automounter to be a privileged application, I still don't > see an easy way

Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in

2008-12-01 Thread geoff
Won't srvfs (see exportfs(4)) do what you want (packaging up a namespace)?

Re: [9fans] point-to-point routes

2008-12-01 Thread Gabriel Diaz Lopez de la Llave
hello with ip i meant $ip sorry if that leaded to a confusion. gabi El 01/12/2008, a las 18:20, erik quanstrom escribió: ip/ipconfig -g ip ether /net/ether0 ip 255.255.255.255 don't you want something along the lines of (untested) ip/ipconfig -g $localip ether add /net/ether1 $loca

Re: [9fans] UDP insight needed..

2008-12-01 Thread Gabriel Diaz Lopez de la Llave
Hello I think loopback is needed by venti, isn't it? gabi El 01/12/2008, a las 23:20, erik quanstrom escribió: i believe the calls to listen an accept were missing. i added a function to the client to determine the local address so we don't have to depend on localhost. (which is never set o

Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9?

2008-12-01 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:25:09 PST "Roman V. Shaposhnik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > P.S. I have always wanted to be able to trade namespaces > between different processes the same way file descriptors get > traded using #s. On the other hand, I have never ever possessed > enough insight into t

Re: [9fans] gmail imap

2008-12-01 Thread erik quanstrom
; cat nohup.out cpu5 deadlock? 9782ad24 caller=808c872 9vx panic: kernel fault: signo=11 addr=0[58332000] 1 if anyone with more of a 9vx setup wants to track this down, i'd be happy to provide any assistance. - erik

Re: [9fans] UDP insight needed..

2008-12-01 Thread erik quanstrom
i believe the calls to listen an accept were missing. i added a function to the client to determine the local address so we don't have to depend on localhost. (which is never set on my machines.) and i added a function to the server to print the caller. - erik ps. would some humane soul please

Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9?

2008-12-01 Thread Dan Cross
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In Plan9 land you don't need automounter to deal with > /media/floppy. But cd /net/ is not there. > At least not by default. I see what you're after. If that's all you want, though, I have to confess I don't see how

Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-12-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Roman Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But what's next? Do you have a specific application for > these things in mind? Not yet, it's just an experiment :) > Besides, Inferno seems to be delivering much more on the > original Java promise, anyway. So why not use it instead? Might be tr

Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-12-01 Thread ron minnich
so if you are using 9p and servers, where does java come in ? Why to you care what language it is? ron

Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-12-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Uriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > Ever heard of Inferno? Or are you using java purely for the > masochistic pleasure? Actually, I like Java (the language, NOT the fat J2EE crap), and a trimmed-down Java is also suited for small devices, eg. can be partially done in hardware. (I'm not yet

[9fans] UDP insight needed..

2008-12-01 Thread Ishwar Rattan
Trying to get UDP working with announce.dial and friends. Code for an attempted UDP server/client listed below. The server does not get beyond the read() call -- as if the client never got connected. Dial() in client does not return error. Any pointers will bve appreciated. -ishwar ---server

Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-12-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Fernan Bolando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > That is very cool I am doing something similar ( I think ). > In hugs (haskell interpreter) there are some things that relies on > loadable modules. I created a plumber call and it launches a handler > for some of those things. > > Now I can use

Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9?

2008-12-01 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 10:17 -0800, ron minnich wrote: > But this need for an automounter has not really existed for probably > 17 years or so ... NFS servers are pretty reliable in many cases. It > is interesting to see the use case for automoiuters change. Right. I'm actually too young to be able

Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9?

2008-12-01 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 09:48 -0800, Russ Cox wrote: > The automounter is symptomatic of an ill that Plan 9 has cured. > Since adding to the name space requires no special privileges, > ordinary users can mount the servers they want to use directly, > instead of needing a privileged daemon to guess t

Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9?

2008-12-01 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The automounter is symptomatic of an ill that Plan 9 has cured. > Since adding to the name space requires no special privileges, > ordinary users can mount the servers they want to use directly, The other reason for an automount

Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9?

2008-12-01 Thread Russ Cox
The automounter is symptomatic of an ill that Plan 9 has cured. Since adding to the name space requires no special privileges, ordinary users can mount the servers they want to use directly, instead of needing a privileged daemon to guess their intent and mount servers on demand. In Plan 9, script

Re: [9fans] point-to-point routes

2008-12-01 Thread erik quanstrom
> ip/ipconfig -g ip ether /net/ether0 ip 255.255.255.255 don't you want something along the lines of (untested) ip/ipconfig -g $localip ether add /net/ether1 $localip /96 ? older versions of ipconfig are very bad at reporting errors, so "ip" is probablly parsed as as the ip 0.0.0.0 (aka

Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-12-01 Thread Brian L. Stuart
> P.S. Speaking of Inferno -- I have always wanted to run it > natively on these puppies: > http://www.sunspotworld.com/ That's a seriously cool idea. I just discovered we have a dev kit here at work. I can't say for sure whether the powers that be will approve of me spending time working o

[9fans] point-to-point routes

2008-12-01 Thread gdiaz
Hello how can i add a route to plan9 equivalent to this one from lunix? route add default dev eth0 I've tried with: ip/ipconfig -g ip ether /net/ether0 ip 255.255.255.255 and with echo add 0 0 ip > /net/iproute but i guess i should see a route in iproute with the flags 4ip. Because that way

Re: [9fans] gmail imap

2008-12-01 Thread Roman Zhukov
On 11/30/08, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nupas/fs now works > around gmail's bugs. /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/src/nupas > > - erik > > Oops.. nupas/fs crashes 9vx: 9vx panic: kernel fault: signo=11 addr=0[68335000] 1 aborting, to dump core. -- Roma

Re: [9fans] image/memimage speed

2008-12-01 Thread plalonde
Intel integrated and derivatives have an actual "frame buffer", in that you set a base pointer to a contiguous block of memory visible to the adapter and scan-out happens from there. I think the real performance issue for hardware where the frame buffer is in the PCIe shared memory apperture is th

Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9?

2008-12-01 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
Maybe I missunderstood. I mean that unless the server is reached in exaclty the same way (which, in general, if you want something like automount, it does not) aan is not enough. It's fine to reach the same FS on the same address when the net goes and come, but otherwise it is not IIRC. On Mon, De

Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9?

2008-12-01 Thread erik quanstrom
> bns != aan > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That's what bns does on Plan B. > >> AFAIK, there's no way on Plan 9 to automate mounts making > >> everythiing work after the FS goes away. > >> > > > > aan? well, sure. i wasn't saying that they are

Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9?

2008-12-01 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
bns != aan On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That's what bns does on Plan B. >> AFAIK, there's no way on Plan 9 to automate mounts making >> everythiing work after the FS goes away. >> > > aan? > > - erik > >

Re: [9fans] image/memimage speed

2008-12-01 Thread erik quanstrom
> > Very true, the only exception to this I know of is some of the modern > Dual PCIExpress cards which use a bus in each direction. > do you have a reference for "dual pciexpress"? as far as i know, pcie/agp/pci cards only have a single bus that goes both ways. my limited understanding was th

Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9?

2008-12-01 Thread erik quanstrom
> That's what bns does on Plan B. > AFAIK, there's no way on Plan 9 to automate mounts making > everythiing work after the FS goes away. > aan? - erik

Re: [9fans] image/memimage speed

2008-12-01 Thread Steve Simon
> i think this is a good point. reading from the frame buffer can > be deathly slow on a lot of modern video cards. Very true, the only exception to this I know of is some of the modern Dual PCIExpress cards which use a bus in each direction. -Steve

[9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9?

2008-12-01 Thread Fco. J. Ballesteros
That's what bns does on Plan B. AFAIK, there's no way on Plan 9 to automate mounts making everythiing work after the FS goes away. Probably you could grab just bns and adsrv (the registry) from Plan B and runt hem on plan 9 as they are. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: 9fans@9fans.net > Reply-T