[9fans] Motherboard recommendations?

2008-12-17 Thread Anthony Sorace
The motherboard in my main server went belly-up yesterday. No POST, no nothing. Well, the fans spin. Joy. That particular motherboard isn't carried anywhere any more, despite being a whopping one year old. I'm looking for a replacement, but having a hard time finding one with both a supported SATA

Re: [9fans] Motherboard recommendations?

2008-12-17 Thread Anthony Sorace
perhaps more particularly, anyone know of or working on support for the RealTek RTL8111/8168B ethernet controller? I've found two boards with match except for having an 8111 controller, which we don't list as supported. i have no idea how close realtek's parts are to each other.

Re: [9fans] Motherboard recommendations?

2008-12-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Dec 17 13:10:41 EST 2008, ano...@gmail.com wrote: > perhaps more particularly, anyone know of or working on support for > the RealTek RTL8111/8168B ethernet controller? I've found two boards > with match except for having an 8111 controller, which we don't list > as supported. i have no idea

Re: [9fans] Motherboard recommendations?

2008-12-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Dec 17 13:00:49 EST 2008, ano...@gmail.com wrote: > The motherboard in my main server went belly-up yesterday. No POST, no > nothing. Well, the fans spin. Joy. > > That particular motherboard isn't carried anywhere any more, despite > being a whopping one year old. I'm looking for a replace

Re: [9fans] Motherboard recommendations?

2008-12-17 Thread Anthony Sorace
does "sb600 or greater" really mean just by number? sb700 and sb750 seem common, but i'd assumed (probably foolishly) that 6xx was different (enough) from 7xx.

Re: [9fans] Motherboard recommendations?

2008-12-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Dec 17 14:23:23 EST 2008, ano...@gmail.com wrote: > does "sb600 or greater" really mean just by number? sb700 and sb750 > seem common, but i'd assumed (probably foolishly) that 6xx was > different (enough) from 7xx. yes. i don't know of many significant changes between sb600 and sb750. am

Re: [9fans] 9vx on x86-64

2008-12-17 Thread prem
> > That's scary.  Can you send the output of "gcc -v"? > Using built-in specs. Target: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Configured with: /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.2/work/gcc-4.3.2/ configure --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/ 4.3.2 --includedir=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.

[9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread john
Devtrace is ready for your consumption, hot out of the oven and juicy fresh. The source is at /n/sources/contrib/john/devtrace-backport.tgz which includes all the necessary source files, the man page (troff), and instructions for putting it in the kernel and compiling. Remember, this isn't mine al

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
Does it work now with non-amd64 kernels? Peace uriel On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM, wrote: > Devtrace is ready for your consumption, hot out of the > oven and juicy fresh. The source is at > /n/sources/contrib/john/devtrace-backport.tgz > which includes all the necessary source files, the ma

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread john
This source is backported to the PC kernel in /sys/src/9/pc. The instructions make this abundantly clear, what with all the stuff being done in /sys/src/9/pc. John > Does it work now with non-amd64 kernels? > > Peace > > uriel > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM, wrote: >> Devtrace is ready

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
Didn't know the amd64 kernel doesn't live in /sys/src/9/pc/. Sorry, I should have guessed that /sys/src/9/not-for-the-unworthy-unwashed-masses/ was much more likely location. Peace uriel On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM, wrote: > This source is backported to the PC kernel in /sys/src/9/pc. >

[9fans] ape pwd.h not in sync ?

2008-12-17 Thread prem
Hi All, the ape/pwd.h has the following (in short pw_passwd missing, is this something unwanted ?) struct passwd { char*pw_name; uid_t pw_uid; gid_t pw_gid; char*pw_dir; char*pw_shell; }; Linux has: struct passwd { char *pw_name;

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Uriel wrote: > Didn't know the amd64 kernel doesn't live in /sys/src/9/pc/. OK, I am only responding to this because of the incorrect impressions being left by these kinds of comments. The backport John did is to the standard kernel that you all can get on your

Re: [9fans] 9P in C++

2008-12-17 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia
Pietro Gagliardi escribió: Given extern "C"{ #include <9p.h> // or whatever you do } you can link 9p into a C++ program easily. Yes! If I use the extern "C" it compiles :'-) Using "extern function" is not valid for linking C and C++ Sorry Pietro, sqweek. Thanks a lot.

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:07 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > "The Masses are Revolting!" > "You said it! They stink on ice!" -History of the World, Part I.

Re: [9fans] Getting qlock errors when trying to install

2008-12-17 Thread Jon Dugan
Excerpts from Sebastian Arvidsson Liem's message of Fri Dec 05 12:40:49 -0800 2008: > Hi, > > I've got my hands on a Intel Atom D945GCLF [1] board and I'm trying > to install Plan 9 on it. It's my first time so please be gentle. ;D > > I'm using the Dec 5 2008 iso and it hangs on the following:

[9fans] Fwd: Re: devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread gdiaz
--- Begin Message --- On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:07 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > "The Masses are Revolting!" > "You said it! They stink on ice!" -History of the World, Part I. --- End Message ---

[9fans] This is classic.

2008-12-17 Thread ron minnich
For no reason that I can see I am now getting this message via a dialogue box: Packagekit Error Failed to reset get-updates Then a little box I can tick for more data. Here's where it really gets good: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, se

Re: [9fans] This is classic.

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
D-bus, a disgrace that should never have even been invented, if 9P on linux had not been dead-on-arrival. uriel On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:28 PM, ron minnich wrote: > For no reason that I can see I am now getting this message via a dialogue box: > Packagekit Error > Failed to reset get-updates

Re: [9fans] This is classic.

2008-12-17 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> D-bus, a disgrace that should never have even been invented, if 9P on > linux had not been dead-on-arrival. "if you want Plan 9 you know where to find it" I heard them say.

[9fans] spamhaus alternative

2008-12-17 Thread gdiaz
Hello, I've started to get spam this week, seems that, or this has been applied to 9grid.es "Caution: If your usage should exceed the free use criteria your access to Spamhaus's public DNSBL servers is very likely to be cut off without warning." or they are missing some "well-known" sources

Re: [9fans] This is classic.

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:39 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: >> D-bus, a disgrace that should never have even been invented, if 9P on >> linux had not been dead-on-arrival. > > "if you want Plan 9 you know where to find it" I heard them say. If that is what they said, that displays their usual ign

Re: [9fans] This is classic.

2008-12-17 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia
Ron, probably is something like this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/fedora-core-9-update-dbus.exception-and-dbus.proxies-and-dbus.error.accessdenied-errors-689207/ Saludos. ron minnich escribió: For no reason that I can see I am now getting this message via a dialogue box:

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2008/12/17 ron minnich : > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Uriel wrote: >> Didn't know the amd64 kernel doesn't live in /sys/src/9/pc/. > > OK, I am only responding to this because of the incorrect impressions > being left by these kinds of comments. > > The backport John did is to the standard

[9fans] 9vx Patches

2008-12-17 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
Hey guys, Back in my ``let's have fun with Plan 9'' yearly phase. Here I come back and I see some really cool work. 9vx definitely is the coolest thing I've seen so far, and devtrace looks pretty nifty too. What's really cool to me about them is that they're available and there is open work to be

Re: [9fans] 9vx Patches

2008-12-17 Thread ron minnich
so here's a potentially interesting idea. Since you are running plan 9 under Linux with 9vx, consider using the TAU toolkit to measure it. http://www.cs.uoregon.edu/research/tau/home.php we've used these tools to optmize an MPI library and they are quite powerful. See what you think. ron

Re: [9fans] 9vx Patches

2008-12-17 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > * Porting devtrace. Needs some changes to compile with gas; the > #pragmas are useless, but I think should work after a little more > tweaking. note that those pragmas are the tip of the iceberg. gcc inserts the profiling code; on Plan 9,

Re: [9fans] 9vx Patches

2008-12-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Dec 17, 2008, at 4:33 PM, ron minnich wrote: so here's a potentially interesting idea. Since you are running plan 9 under Linux with 9vx, consider using the TAU toolkit to measure it. http://www.cs.uoregon.edu/research/tau/home.php we've used these tools to optmize an MPI library and they ar

Re: [9fans] 9vx Patches

2008-12-17 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > In fact, Ron, now that you've mentioned it -- I'm going to try the PerfAn > on 9vx myself ;-) And here's the question for you: how representative > the behavior of 9vx is supposed to be of the regular Plan9 kernel? I don't know but the c

Re: [9fans] 9vx Patches

2008-12-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Dec 17, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: * Automatic provisioning via a web browser. Yeah, Plan 9 in the web browser (if you have Java, I guess -- otherwise it's just VNC). http://testbed.dh0.us/ -- this code isn't version controlled, but I could probably put it in hg with little effor

[9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-17 Thread Nolan Hamilton
Well apparently plan9 runs on alpha, but I can not get plan9 to run on my DS10L. Can anyone help?

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-17 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Nolan Hamilton wrote: > Well apparently plan9 runs on alpha, but I can not get plan9 to run on my > DS10L. Can anyone help? > I can help the DS10L. 1. open window 2. look out, make sure no one is in the areas 3. slide DS10L out window now that was easy! Of cou

Re: [9fans] Getting qlock errors when trying to install

2008-12-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> I recently put together a similar system but using the 945GCLF2 motherboard > [1]. I also got similar qlock errors. I noticed that the kernel detected the > ethernet card twice and so I decided to try disabling the ethernet interface > in the BIOS. The system booted fine after that. I did have

Re: [9fans] 9vx Patches

2008-12-17 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2008/12/17 Roman Shaposhnik : > On Dec 17, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: >> >> * Automatic provisioning via a web browser. Yeah, Plan 9 in the web >> browser (if you have Java, I guess -- otherwise it's just VNC). >> http://testbed.dh0.us/ -- this code isn't version controlled, but I >>

Re: [9fans] 9vx Patches

2008-12-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> I would if it was free and I didn't have a server :\ and more reliable than street power. - erik

[9fans] of historical interest (old Unix filesystems using FUSE)

2008-12-17 Thread Aharon Robbins
This is from the TUHS list. I thought it might be of interest here, too. > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:05:30 +1000 > From: Warren Toomey > To: t...@tuhs.org > Subject: [TUHS] Old UNIX Filesystems with FUSE > > http://osxbook.com/software/ancientfs/ > > Amit Singh has added support for a whole bunch

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread lucio
> In fact, one could actually look at what John released > *before* posting to this list and making oneself look silly. It's an > idea. Uriel is renowned for demanding tools to be released on principle, without him having any practical need for them. He lands up sounding like a peevish, ungratefu

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-17 Thread lucio
> I can help the DS10L. > > 1. open window > 2. look out, make sure no one is in the areas > 3. slide DS10L out window Sure, but how do you "keep Plan 9 honest" if no one checks portability? In fact, it's already very hard to find porting opportunities for Plan 9, regretfully. An example I rais

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:12 AM, wrote: >> I can help the DS10L. >> >> 1. open window >> 2. look out, make sure no one is in the areas >> 3. slide DS10L out window > > Sure, but how do you "keep Plan 9 honest" if no one checks > portability? Don't worry. The holy keepers of the amd64 kernel do t

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
Yea, stupid retarded moron I am to give a fuck about the welfare of Plan 9 and its future. After all, I have only invested I don't know how many hundreds of hours of my life in it... uriel On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:52 AM, wrote: >> In fact, one could actually look at what John released >> *bef

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread john
>> In fact, one could actually look at what John released >> *before* posting to this list and making oneself look silly. It's an >> idea. > > Uriel is renowned for demanding tools to be released on principle, > without him having any practical need for them. He lands up sounding > like a peevish

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:55:50PM -0500, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote: > It would be a bit of work but definitely feasible if there's interest. +1 pgpTOmxdMaiBS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread john
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:55:50PM -0500, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote: >> It would be a bit of work but definitely feasible if there's interest. > > +1 I presume by this that you were able to get devtrace working? Did you find the documentation sufficiently clear? Any problems? John

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread Uriel
No, '+1' means that he agrees and supports the quoted statement. uriel On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:04 AM, wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:55:50PM -0500, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote: >>> It would be a bit of work but definitely feasible if there's interest. >> >> +1 > > I presume by this that

Re: [9fans] of historical interest (old Unix filesystems using FUSE)

2008-12-17 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> Didn't Plan 9 have a way to mount 6th and 7th edition disk images also? > Was that ever released? tapefs(4)

[9fans] Help with device and clone?

2008-12-17 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
I really am getting to the deep guts of dev.c and chan.c here in debugging why when ip/ipconfig tries to open /net/ether0/clone, it's getting Enotfound. From my latest commit: Fix some stuff with the ether controller attaching. It attaches now, but for some reason clone screws up. I have no idea w

Re: [9fans] How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?

2008-12-17 Thread lucio
> Because we unworthy dirty masses should not bother with what we are > not supposed to be interested in. This is getting tedious. Have you considered psychotherapy for your paranoia? And what exactly is it that is being denied to you and you deem to be your undeniable right? ++L

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread lucio
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:55:50PM -0500, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote: >> It would be a bit of work but definitely feasible if there's interest. > > +1 Out of scope in my case, but the logistics interest me greatly. Please keep me in the loop. ++L

Re: [9fans] 9P in C++

2008-12-17 Thread sqweek
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote: > Pietro Gagliardi escribió: >> extern "C"{ >> #include <9p.h> // or whatever you do >> } >> >> you can link 9p into a C++ program easily. > > If I use the extern "C" it compiles :'-) > > Using "extern function" is not valid for linking C