[9fans] for rsc -- mail failure. sorry.

2009-04-07 Thread erik quanstrom
Your request ``smtp /net.alt/tcp!swtch.com rsc '' failed (code smtp 89792: Permanent Failure). The symptom was: Tue Apr 7 23:47:42 EDT 2009 connect to /net.alt/tcp!swtch.com: 550 relaying denied - erik

Re: [9fans] self inflicted gunshot wound

2009-04-07 Thread erik quanstrom
> i would put a lock around the use of attrbuf > in both plumbpackattr and plumbunpackattr. > > russ why not just use malloc? - erik

Re: [9fans] self inflicted gunshot wound

2009-04-07 Thread Russ Cox
> acid: *(*plumbpackattr:s\s) > filetype=mail sender=x...@.xxx length=8749 mailtype=delete > date='Sun Mar4de7153cecd4a9b45aead1clfs > digest=aff98fb56526d94ab768adbc93d12d989a11ed53 > several were waiting on something else to happen; they were > sleeping waiting for an exclusive-open file.  t

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Eris Discordia wrote: >> The man page *does* say it's too big and slow. So does the bash >> manpage. And getting readline to do anything sane is about as fun as >> screwing around with a terminfo file. > > A bad implementation is not a bad design. And, in fact, the

Re: [9fans] self inflicted gunshot wound

2009-04-07 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Apr 7 21:50:14 EDT 2009, r...@swtch.com wrote: > > abort()+0x0 /sys/src/libc/9sys/abort.c:6 > > plumbpackattr(attr=0x28b00)+0x126 /sys/src/libplumb/mesg.c:125 > >n=0x93 > >a=0x3e990 > >s=0x3a430 > >t=0x3a497 > > t is unlikely to be correct here; it would hav

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread erik quanstrom
> A bad implementation is not a bad design. neither is stink an outhouse, but often they keep company. - erik

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread Eris Discordia
The man page *does* say it's too big and slow. So does the bash manpage. And getting readline to do anything sane is about as fun as screwing around with a terminfo file. A bad implementation is not a bad design. And, in fact, the badness of the implementation is even questionable in the light

Re: [9fans] self inflicted gunshot wound

2009-04-07 Thread Russ Cox
> abort()+0x0 /sys/src/libc/9sys/abort.c:6 > plumbpackattr(attr=0x28b00)+0x126 /sys/src/libplumb/mesg.c:125 >n=0x93 >a=0x3e990 >s=0x3a430 >t=0x3a497 t is unlikely to be correct here; it would have been saved at the last call to strlen but since then got +='ed with t

Re: [9fans] yet another cheapo mips board

2009-04-07 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > 2009/4/7 ron minnich : >> Can't remember if this one came up: >> $59. http://www.ubnt.com/products/rs.php > > Where do you find it for $59? Cheapest I can find from their page is $69. > yeah. I can't find that page again. Well, with this pr

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread erik quanstrom
> Well someone's gotta tell these prepubescents ... > > "Because the V6 shell did it, that's why.". ooh. ooh. i know what you're going to say next: if should be an external program. - erik

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread dave . l
Exactly, and the end user can choose to have a re or glob expansion program, rather than having to muck up the shell code with different flags or whatever. somebody is going to jump in very soon and tell us why this is funny :-) i promised i wouldn't, Well someone's gotta tell these prepu

Re: [9fans] yet another cheapo mips board

2009-04-07 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/4/7 ron minnich : > Can't remember if this one came up: > $59. http://www.ubnt.com/products/rs.php Where do you find it for $59? Cheapest I can find from their page is $69. --dho

[9fans] yet another cheapo mips board

2009-04-07 Thread ron minnich
Can't remember if this one came up: $59. http://www.ubnt.com/products/rs.php ron

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Eris Discordia wrote: > I see. But seriously, readline does handle bindings and line editing for > bash. Except it's a function instead of a program and you think it's a bad > idea. The man page *does* say it's too big and slow. So does the bash manpage. And gettin

Re: [9fans] double click selects a word

2009-04-07 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
In omero double click does the same, and triple is more hungry. You could try that modifying your local system El 06/04/2009, a las 16:55, fors...@terzarima.net escribió: Double clicking e.g. on 'text.txt' only selects 'text' or 'txt', while one usually wants the whole. The same with abso

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread Eris Discordia
I see. But seriously, readline does handle bindings and line editing for bash. Except it's a function instead of a program and you think it's a bad idea. --On Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:31 PM +0800 sqweek wrote: 2009/4/7 Eris Discordia : Keyboard bindings for example; why couldn't they be h

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread erik quanstrom
> > Exactly, and the end user can choose to have a re or glob expansion > > program, rather than having to muck up the shell code with different > > flags or whatever. > > somebody is going to jump in very soon and tell us why this is funny :-) i promised i wouldn't, - erik

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Corey wrote: > On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 08:08 -0700, ron minnich wrote: >> you could break out re expansion into a separate program :-) >> >> ron >> > > Exactly, and the end user can choose to have a re or glob expansion > program, rather than having to muck up the she

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread Corey
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 08:08 -0700, ron minnich wrote: > you could break out re expansion into a separate program :-) > > ron > Exactly, and the end user can choose to have a re or glob expansion program, rather than having to muck up the shell code with different flags or whatever.

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread ron minnich
you could break out re expansion into a separate program :-) ron

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Eris Discordia wrote: > > Like... readline(3)? one hopes not. ron

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-04-07 Thread maht
It is just weird, all very deja vu. The previous generation of Moore's designs went through a similar quagmire to nowhere. Robby poor man, how stressful is that !

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-04-07 Thread Robert Raschke
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:24 PM, maht wrote: > >> These docs aren't dated. > > they appeared in the last week or so, before that was a page saying TPL > pulled funding  and sacked Moore > Catching up with my online reading and the Forth group is indeed full of this since the weekend. It is just w

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread sqweek
2009/4/7 Eris Discordia : >>> Keyboard >>> bindings for example; why couldn't they be handled by a program that >>> just does keyboard bindings + line editing, and writes finalized lines >>> to the shell. > > Like... readline(3)? No. -sqweek

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-04-07 Thread maht
These docs aren't dated. they appeared in the last week or so, before that was a page saying TPL pulled funding and sacked Moore

[9fans] self inflicted gunshot wound

2009-04-07 Thread erik quanstrom
like kutner, the plumber decided to off itself for seemingly inscrutable reasons this morning. the abort condition does not appear to hold: if(t > s+n) abort(); since 0x3a497 < 0x3a430+0x93 and also a!= nil, as would be required. the interesting thing that happened at the

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-04-07 Thread Alexander Clouter
Robert Raschke wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, maht wrote: >> >> SeaForth is dead already >> >> http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm >> >> http://colorforth.com/S40.htm >> > > These docs aren't dated. And I remember a lot of discussion about 1 - > 2 years ago about the patent issues surroundi

Re: [9fans] unvac bug

2009-04-07 Thread hugo rivera
Well, I've checking out the code and I am really unable to fix the bug. It turns out that for some reason, VacDirEnum *vde inside unvac gets the wrong permissions for 2009/0311, since it writes it with 0555 instead of 0755, when starts to walk the file tree. I hope someone can fix this. Saludos 20

Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-04-07 Thread Robert Raschke
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, maht wrote: > > SeaForth is dead already > > http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm > > http://colorforth.com/S40.htm > These docs aren't dated. And I remember a lot of discussion about 1 - 2 years ago about the patent issues surrounding Chuck Moore's work. So I'm wonderin

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread Eris Discordia
Keyboard bindings for example; why couldn't they be handled by a program that just does keyboard bindings + line editing, and writes finalized lines to the shell. Like... readline(3)? SEE ALSO The Gnu Readline Library, Brian Fox and Chet Ramey The Gnu History Library, Brian Fox a

Re: [9fans] way OT but shocking none the less

2009-04-07 Thread Eris Discordia
Not really. Rackable Systems has for long been one of those things that were there but you never saw. And SGI's end was coming. When did they decommission IRIX? Wasn't it some years ago? I think Rackable Systems is going to focus on SGI's supercomputing background and boost their line with par

Re: [9fans] a bit OT, programming style question

2009-04-07 Thread sqweek
2009/4/7 Corey : > Keyboard > bindings for example; why couldn't they be handled by a program that > just does keyboard bindings + line editing, and writes finalized lines > to the shell. Congratulations, you've perceived the difference between shell and terminal. A lot of people stuck in modern