Re: [9fans] Cute plan9/inferno client?

2011-01-27 Thread Lawrence E. Bakst
A few comments. 1. It was a 1 line post to the group. I'm not pushing anything, have no vested interest, I just wanted the list to be aware of it. You don't like Nvida or closed source, that's fine with me. The Tegra is probably one of the best ARM chips out there and certainly the most integra

Re: [9fans] Cute plan9/inferno client?

2011-01-27 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
probably not, but sure smells like it. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:45 PM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> if you have time for that kind of nonsense, go ahead.  there >> are full specs on the intel video hardware, and nobody has >> done a think with that. > > Intel is dead. > >

Re: [9fans] Cute plan9/inferno client?

2011-01-27 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Jan 27 21:46:53 EST 2011, 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: > > if you have time for that kind of nonsense, go ahead. there > > are full specs on the intel video hardware, and nobody has > > done a think with that. > > Intel is dead. your wishes don't make reality. they are >50% of the graphi

Re: [9fans] Cute plan9/inferno client?

2011-01-27 Thread hiro
> if you have time for that kind of nonsense, go ahead. there > are full specs on the intel video hardware, and nobody has > done a think with that. Intel is dead.

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread erik quanstrom
> I do like the fact that the omap is pretty much unbrickable. I wonder > if Erik has been able to reflash his plug it's not a flash problem. bad caps ... again. - erik

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread Nick LaForge
The Armada 168 does do WUXGA (1920x1200), so don't bother with that TI Pandaboard, especially since TI still thinks it's okay to implement ethernet using the usb bus. It is kind of a bummer that omap based boards like Gumstix don't include GBe, though the feature is admittedly superflous on a SoC

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread Bakul Shah
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:14:04 EST ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: > The Guruplug Display is not vaporware. I ordered one just before > Christmas and it arrived a few days ago. It's a different SoC > than the other plugs use, but I don't expect much trouble porting > to it. The dreamplug seems t

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Jan 27 17:15:58 EST 2011, ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: > The Guruplug Display is not vaporware. I ordered one just before > Christmas and it arrived a few days ago. It's a different SoC > than the other plugs use, but I don't expect much trouble porting > to it. what model is it? - e

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread geoff
The Guruplug Display is not vaporware. I ordered one just before Christmas and it arrived a few days ago. It's a different SoC than the other plugs use, but I don't expect much trouble porting to it. The omap port (/sys/src/9/omap) already runs on the gumstix overo, though not all peripherals wo

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread Nick LaForge
I mean 'Pandaboard'. Nick On 1/27/11, Nick LaForge wrote: >> You might take a look at the Beagle Boards. They're OMAP-based and >> completely open source hardware. So, if you feel up to it, you can tack >> on pretty much anything you like. > > Except high throughput peripherals like video. > >

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread Nick LaForge
> You might take a look at the Beagle Boards. They're OMAP-based and > completely open source hardware. So, if you feel up to it, you can tack > on pretty much anything you like. Except high throughput peripherals like video. Cortex A8 based SoCs found in the Gumstix Overo and the Beagleboard o

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread John Floren
At Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:26:33 +, Steve Simon wrote: > > I want to build a net booting silent plan9 terminal > which will talk to a usb keyboard and mouse, and > will drive an HDMI monitor at somthing like 1900x1200. > > Am I still stuck with x86 or is there an ARM solution these days? > > -St

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread smiley
"Steve Simon" writes: > Am I still stuck with x86 or is there an ARM solution these days? You might take a look at the Beagle Boards. They're OMAP-based and completely open source hardware. So, if you feel up to it, you can tack on pretty much anything you like. > > -Steve

Re: [9fans] Cute plan9/inferno client?

2011-01-27 Thread erik quanstrom
> I deleted a line from the post that said the big issue will be the > quality of the hardware doc, if there even is any. Still, if it ends > up running linux there might be some hope. the problem is that the linux driver guy is generally getting it straight from the source, and not from the docs

Re: [9fans] Cute plan9/inferno client?

2011-01-27 Thread Lawrence E. Bakst
Forgot this Tegra road map link: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2011/1/23/nvidia-thinks-world-domination-tegra-2-3d-in-january2c-tegra-3-by-fall.aspx -- l...@iridescent.org

Re: [9fans] Cute plan9/inferno client?

2011-01-27 Thread Lawrence E. Bakst
At 12:38 PM -0500 1/27/11, erik quanstrom wrote: >On Thu Jan 27 12:37:34 EST 2011, m...@iridescent.org wrote: >> http://www.semiaccurate.com/2011/01/26/compulab-announces-tegra-2-powered-trim-slice/ >> > >nvidia. those are the closed-source everything guys, right? > >- erik I deleted a line from

Re: [9fans] Cute plan9/inferno client?

2011-01-27 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Jan 27 12:37:34 EST 2011, m...@iridescent.org wrote: > http://www.semiaccurate.com/2011/01/26/compulab-announces-tegra-2-powered-trim-slice/ > nvidia. those are the closed-source everything guys, right? - erik

[9fans] Cute plan9/inferno client?

2011-01-27 Thread Lawrence E. Bakst
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2011/01/26/compulab-announces-tegra-2-powered-trim-slice/

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Jan 27 12:03:48 EST 2011, j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote: > Can anyone find the specs on the gumstix summit board DVI/HDMI output? A > tide+summit combo could make a nice Plan9 terminal. Once all the drivers are > in place... cpu speed: depending on your glacier, it could be faster.

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread Jeff Sickel
Can anyone find the specs on the gumstix summit board DVI/HDMI output? A tide+summit combo could make a nice Plan9 terminal. Once all the drivers are in place... -jas On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Steve Simon wrote: >>> http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-40-guruplug-display-devkit.asp

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread Steve Simon
>> http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-40-guruplug-display-devkit.aspx > I've had one on order since June. It appears to be vaporware. the UK website says shipping Feb 2011... The thin client boxes look like what I want, anyone had any success with plan9 and one of these? -Steve

Re: [9fans] p9p 9term problem

2011-01-27 Thread Russ Cox
>>     set +o emacs >>     set +o vi >> >> to turn off those editing modes, bash will just read from the >> tty with echo turned on > > Is that to say that readline turns echo off when typing? yes. > If, for example, the emacs keybindings are set, there may be another way > to insert that initial

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
I've had one on order since June. It appears to be vaporware. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 27, 2011, at 7:03 AM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-40-guruplug-display-devkit.aspx > > says HDMI but I can't see a spec for max resolution > >

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread Steve Simon
> http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-40-guruplug-display-devkit.aspx > says HDMI but I can't see a spec for max resolution the rumor mill infers it will output 720p (1280x720) at best. good for multimedia but not enough for a good terminal. I suspose I sould have said DVI or HDMI output, mo

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread Richard Miller
http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-40-guruplug-display-devkit.aspx says HDMI but I can't see a spec for max resolution

Re: [9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread Christian Neukirchen
st...@quintile.net (Steve Simon) writes: > I want to build a net booting silent plan9 terminal > which will talk to a usb keyboard and mouse, and > will drive an HDMI monitor at somthing like 1900x1200. > > Am I still stuck with x86 or is there an ARM solution these days? I have a Dockstar with a

Re: [9fans] another kernel implementation question

2011-01-27 Thread Anthony Martin
Steve Simon once said: > The difference comes from the fact that sleep is deep inside its > stack/errlab hierarchy when it receives a note. This causes it > to jump to the notify function (still in the users context), > the notify function then calls back into the kernel (noted()). > > this is wh

[9fans] ARM based terminal?

2011-01-27 Thread Steve Simon
I want to build a net booting silent plan9 terminal which will talk to a usb keyboard and mouse, and will drive an HDMI monitor at somthing like 1900x1200. Am I still stuck with x86 or is there an ARM solution these days? -Steve

Re: [9fans] another kernel implementation question

2011-01-27 Thread Steve Simon
> Waserror increments up->nerrlab before setting up > the next label on the error stack which means the > poperror in question returns it to zero. Yep, I get this part, and for nearly all syscalls its straightforward, fork() is different (I was stumpped by that a few months ago), and it seems note

[9fans] missing Greek letters in p9p troff

2011-01-27 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Hello, this is my perpetual problem. Say I typeset my texts with cat $stem.xref |9 pic|9 tbl|9 eqn|9 troff -ms|9 tr2post |9 psfonts >$stem.ps in Plan9port. I can't achieve having Greek letters in the ps. I read this That said, if somehow the contents of /sys/lib/postscript/font end

Re: [9fans] another kernel implementation question

2011-01-27 Thread Anthony Martin
Waserror increments up->nerrlab before setting up the next label on the error stack which means the poperror in question returns it to zero. Anthony

[9fans] another kernel implementation question

2011-01-27 Thread Steve Simon
I don't get gow notes work WRT up->nerrlab. say we schedule an alarm() call, and then go to sleep. the note will fire when the alarm expires and cause the processes notify function to be called. this notify function calls noted() and in doing so sets up->nerrlab to zero. assuming noted was calle

Re: [9fans] PUSH sources for Plan 9

2011-01-27 Thread Noah Evans
You need filters and the filters need to be set up by default in rcmain. Anthony is on top of things as usual :) It would be nice to have other users and if you are interested in exercising it ping me offlist. Noah On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Akshat Kumar wrote: > Is "broken!" the defaul

Re: [9fans] PUSH sources for Plan 9

2011-01-27 Thread Anthony Sorace
I've not looked closely at push, but I assume it uses the same /rc/lib/rcmain as, well, rc. See that file for the trick: it sets the prompt to that if your running a $O.out, so you know. anth

Re: [9fans] PUSH sources for Plan 9

2011-01-27 Thread Akshat Kumar
Is "broken!" the default prompt, or am I seeing some error here? A primitive grep of the source files didn't reveal any instance of that string, so I wonder... Also because: broken! echo hello |< cat >| cat rc (push): empty argument list rc (push): empty argument list term% Perhaps I should try t