Re: [9fans] Radeon driver

2009-06-01 Thread Ori Bernstein
e and use the 3d engine. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] plan 9 regexp

2009-06-07 Thread Ori Bernstein
; > - Dan C. Look up iburg and twig. They're tree pattern matchers that could be adapted to do what you want, although they're more like yacc than awk. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] faster vesa driver

2009-06-15 Thread Ori Bernstein
, we could link rsc's 8i into the > kernel and use that to execute the vesa bios code, right? > 8i needs some work to add coverage for more instructions (for example, movz). Other than that, it should be callable from userspace (say, aux/vga) instead of being linked into the kernel. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] LLVM for plan 9?

2010-08-31 Thread Ori Bernstein
Now that I've got an ARM and an x86 plan 9 instance up, I might have some > time, but I can tell you compilers are definitely not my specialty :-). > > Dave -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] proceedings

2010-10-13 Thread Ori Bernstein
Correct URL seems to be: http://iwp9.org/iwp95e.pdf On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:14:00 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > raw proceedings posted www.9fans.net/iwp95e.pdf > -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

2010-11-14 Thread Ori Bernstein
Forsyth wrote: > >I have successfully avoided using autoconf and similar stuff in my > >projects by adhering to strict C99, but in an ironic twist of fate, Plan > >9 will be the OS that forces me to use something like autoconf due to > >the limited C99 support. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] Inferno on microcontrollers

2018-01-02 Thread Ori Bernstein
> achievable on other operating systems. > > R. > Exactly. That's why I finally caved and ordered a new laptop, one that can run aux/vmx on 9front, and use a virtual machine with a browser without needing access to another machine. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] Plan 9's style(6) manual page

2018-04-07 Thread Ori Bernstein
of the answers to your questions are simply that someone had a preference early on. They wrote the code. If you want your code to fit in with theirs, this is how to do it. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] Is Plan 9 C "Less Dangerous?"

2018-09-04 Thread Ori Bernstein
xity in the CPUs, many of the optimizations make less of a difference now -- they're essentially optimizing just in time compilers under the hood, so even terrible code will run acceptably quickly. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread Ori Bernstein
7;re willing to wait as the screen repaints. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] rio : not completely rio-like : advice from packard!

2018-10-02 Thread Ori Bernstein
ms, so they must open a new . The fix would involve patching every X program. Good luck. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] PDP11 (Was: Re: what heavy negativity!)

2018-10-09 Thread Ori Bernstein
#x27;s much better with patches. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] zero copy & 9p (was Re: PDP11 (Was: Re: what heavy negativity!)

2018-10-11 Thread Ori Bernstein
). Anybody have hints/references to prior work? > > --lyndon > I don't believe anyone has done the work yet. I'd be interested to see what you come up with. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] any git client?

2019-02-03 Thread Ori Bernstein
p commits as an fs, but it's rather crashy. git/commit: makes commits, really clunky. git/push: started on an implementation, doesn't yet work. Merging, branching, etc should be relatviely easy to do on top of git/fs, but I haven't had time to take a look at them. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] any git client?

2019-02-07 Thread Ori Bernstein
not currently maintaining it. I'm not sure how much of it actually works. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] Git/fs: Possibly Usable

2019-04-03 Thread Ori Bernstein
> Probably MIT or a BSD. > > But I can also live with any copyleft of your choice. > > > Giacomo > MIT it is, since it matches the 9front license. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] Git/fs: Possibly Usable

2019-04-03 Thread Ori Bernstein
econd option, because all I really use libavl for is a key-value lookup. > BTW, I think your notes on this message are a great start for a README. Already done. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] Git/fs: Possibly Usable

2019-04-03 Thread Ori Bernstein
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 13:23:08 -0700 Ori Bernstein wrote: > - I can remove the libavl usage, possibly replacing with > the objset implementation I already have. Did this one. Turned out to save a couple of lines, in the end. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread Ori Bernstein
is on and the screen's size is larger than its actualsize, the displayed portion of the screen will pan to follow the mouse. Setting the panning mode after the first attach of the #i driver has no effect. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] POSIX shared memory (shm_open)

2019-04-24 Thread Ori Bernstein
4. If you still want to implement it, start by reading the code for segattach. You can proably put together a hacky version that breaks the distributed parts of the system and scales poorly with the number of shm regions fairly quickly. Making it good is harder. Either way, if you decide to experiment, I'd be interested in seeing what you write. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] Git/fs: Possibly Usable

2019-07-08 Thread Ori Bernstein
- (Low priority, probably won't do it myself, but I'd take a patch): HTTP protocol. Most places (including github) serve up git protocol URLS, in the form git://github.com/user/repo -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] Git/fs: Possibly Usable

2019-07-25 Thread Ori Bernstein
t they work so far without incident. > > git/clone git+ssh://g...@github.com:tmendoza/9front-user > > Once I got keys generated and pushed to github.com, worked just fine. My > updates show up as expected. Good to hear! -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] Git/fs: Possibly Usable

2019-08-08 Thread Ori Bernstein
t; for(f in `{ifs=$nl walk -f $tree | sed 's@^'$tree'/*@@'}){ > You can also set ifs outside of the `{...}. However, I think it's worth importing the 9atom change into 9legacy rc. It's an elegant solution. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] aux/timesync -n doesn't work

2019-09-10 Thread Ori Bernstein
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 17:20:49 +0300, __ wrote: > aux/timesync doesnt work in raspberry pi 2. How to fix this problem ? Can you define what doesn't work? -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] Is the vanilla Plan 9 still alive?

2019-11-23 Thread Ori Bernstein
are contrib directories, but projects are haphazardly thrown in, often duplicated them, with no indication of what's working, up to date, or maintained. Code may exist, but... where? I've been around for a while and I would have trouble finding the bits needed for a day-to-day usable sys

Re: [9fans] Is the vanilla Plan 9 still alive?

2019-11-24 Thread Ori Bernstein
a museum for people to gawk at a bit before getting on with their day to day business, using tools that they either adapt to their needs, or replace with ones that are already suitable. -- Ori Bernstein -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https:

Re: [9fans] factotum vs. SASL+TLS+applications

2020-01-27 Thread Ori Bernstein
> The following is all hypothetical. I'm curious about how people > think auth(2)/factotum(4) could be adapted to support the use > case ... > > factotum was intended to handle the authentication dance on behalf > of network apps. But in the case of things like IMAP, it really > just stores the c

Re: [9fans] programs from UNI*x

2023-06-30 Thread Ori Bernstein
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 11:26:09 +0100, Conor Williams wrote: > https://conorwilliams.in/nh4.png > > now looking in win?? /c early friday yay lie in 2morow > sysupdate; it's been added as of commit 5664fb3540ae0dccec628720574520122193ab1b, on Fri Mar 17 16:24:30 -0400

Re: [9fans] IWP9 10th Edition

2024-01-09 Thread Ori Bernstein
ia in less > > than a day's driving time. So take advantage of the > > scheduling to experience both one of nature's most amazing > > events and discussions of computing's most amazing operating > > system. > > > > Brian L. Stuart >

[9fans] Last Call: IWP9 Shirts + Registration

2024-03-24 Thread Ori Bernstein
hat you need to respond to. -- Ori Bernstein -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T05224b13e5a0cf96-M94d192f2eec9c484f2a6545b Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] VCS on Plan9

2024-04-18 Thread Ori Bernstein
g patches with this any more. > > Was it as simple as backing a source tree up, making some changes, and then > comparing the two? Venti? Replica? > > tom -- Ori Bernstein -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

2024-05-13 Thread Ori Bernstein
it would be strange to find them, given that we don't ship freetype. -- Ori Bernstein -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tcf128fa955b8aafc-Me2f7348f05a060950815e38e Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

2024-05-13 Thread Ori Bernstein
On Mon, 13 May 2024 11:56:20 -0400 "ibrahim via 9fans" <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > I'm wondering why you don't adjust it so that 9front can also be run there. Because 9vx is a hacky dead end; it fundamentally only runs (and can only run) on 32-bit x86. It works because of a quirk of 32-bit x86 add

Re: [9fans] mk results in rc: suicide:

2024-07-09 Thread Ori Bernstein
1b FS0x001b ES 0x001b > TRAP0x000e page fault > AX 0xdfffef00 BX 0x00965700 CX 0x0214 DX 0x00040b20 > DI 0x00016ca7 SI 0x00155720 BP 0x000176c8 > acid: > > I didn't get any wiser. > > -marco > -- Ori Bernstein -

Re: [9fans] Re: venti/mirrorarenas usage

2024-08-01 Thread Ori Bernstein
I don't think the best adaptation is drowning out anything helpful with an array of unhelpful inexperts. If someone wants chatgpt responses, they don't need you as a middleman. On August 1, 2024 7:36:17 AM EDT, kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us wrote: > No one is obligated to help. I'm asking those wh

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-03 Thread Ori Bernstein
When you posted questions to a mailing list, pasted them into ChatGPT, and sent the responses back to the list, you made several mistakes. Here are the key points: 1. **Respect for Time**: Sending AI-generated responses that contain inaccuracies or hallucinations wastes the time of those readin

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread Ori Bernstein
It's a wiki for a reason. On August 5, 2024 7:51:42 AM GMT+09:00, sirjofri wrote: >05.08.2024 00:29:11 kalona.ayeli...@fastmail.us: > >> No, I have listened. You did not expect a newcomer to be so vocal. If the >> community is as small as you say, improving the community pages should be >> qui

Re: [9fans] Pi Zero - Ethernet?

2024-08-08 Thread Ori Bernstein
I don't even care if people use an LLM: just be upfront about it, and describe how you verified its output before posting. On August 8, 2024 9:27:08 PM GMT+09:00, Thaddeus Woskowiak wrote: >All I ask (as well as others) is to be up front with LLM answers. Note: I'm >not making accusations here,

Re: [9fans] mk and transitive dependencies (was: gcc not an option for Plan9)

2013-03-25 Thread Ori Bernstein
2013 12:37:17 Rob Pike wrote: > > (...) and because go install does > > transitive dependencies correctly, which mk does not. > > anybody care to explain what is the limitation of mk here? can't wrap my head > around it... > > > -- > dexen deVries > > [[[↓][→]]] > > -- Ori Bernstein

[9fans] New Language [Myrddin] On Plan 9/amd64

2015-01-04 Thread Ori Bernstein
f anyone finds this interesting/useful -- have at it. If you manage to do something neat, let me know! -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] New Language [Myrddin] On Plan 9/amd64

2015-01-04 Thread Ori Bernstein
con > saw LNAME > /tmp/tmp7109d3e2d-sys.myr.s:12 syntax error, last name: zd > too many errors > Couldn't run assembler > > - erik > -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] New Language [Myrddin] On Plan 9/amd64

2015-01-04 Thread Ori Bernstein
wrote: > That looks really neat! One question: are runtime bound checks really > necessary? I would at least like a seperate release mode that gets rid of > them. Writing a kernel with bound checks would be a mixed nightmare! > > FYI, please tell me I'm not the only perso

Re: [9fans] New Language [Myrddin] On Plan 9/amd64

2015-01-04 Thread Ori Bernstein
ecially liked the "Why Myrddin" section :) > > i didn't see the obligatory 9P implementation in it; is there one? > > On Sun Jan 04 2015 at 1:07:47 AM Ori Bernstein wrote: > > > Myrddin is a language that I put together for fun, but which has developed > &g

Re: [9fans] New Language [Myrddin] On Plan 9/amd64

2015-01-04 Thread Ori Bernstein
Thanks to Erik, who helped with squashing a decent number of bugs. On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 00:59:00 -0800 Ori Bernstein wrote: > Myrddin is a language that I put together for fun, but which has developed > delusions of usefulness. It's a complete reinvention of the wheel, from the > g

Re: [9fans] protection against resource exhaustion

2015-01-26 Thread Ori Bernstein
s > p = malloc(n); > if(p == nil){ > ... > } > or > switch(pid = fork()) {/* assign = */ > case -1: > sysfatal("fork: %r"); > case 0: > ... > default: > ... > } > I have beeb writing codes believing those error return is working. > > -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] using git

2015-03-19 Thread Ori Bernstein
In the past, I have managed to get git-hg to work, but it's been extremely flaky -- for example, Python would refuse to find modules unless I ran hg from within the modules directory. Unfortunately, I've lost the drive with that system since. On Mar 19, 2015, at 10:00 AM, Jeff Sickel wrote: >

Re: [9fans] Ports tree for Plan 9

2015-05-11 Thread Ori Bernstein
really love comments on it and mkfiles for new software. > Take a look at the code, try it out, tell me what you think! > > Ports repo: https://bitbucket.org/mveety/9front-ports , install it by > running install.rc . It installs to /sys/ports/ . > > -- > Veety > -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] "..." and "##' stuff with pcc?

2015-05-31 Thread Ori Bernstein
On Sun, 31 May 2015 11:14:42 +0100 Charles Forsyth wrote: > It doesn't understand the named ... variant, which I suppose is more recent > tinkering. Use the older __VA_ARGS__. IIRC, the named variant is older, but it's also a GNU extension. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] off topic - a good Git reference

2015-09-30 Thread Ori Bernstein
s a C program, so it's not very portable. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-17 Thread Ori Bernstein
; when I was starting to learn Go so that I could fix a bug in some of > my code on Plan 9 (eventually I just made > the change, tested it, and copied the file to a supported git platform > over drawterm, and commited it from there..) > > Who else is trying to do it? > > - Dave > -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-17 Thread Ori Bernstein
Plan9 doesn't use make. It has a mkfile as well. On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:29:58 -0500, Chris McGee wrote: > It doesn't build for me anymore. Fixing the make file seemed non trivial. > > Chris > > > On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Ori Bernstein wrote: > > >

Re: [9fans] Porting Idris to 9front

2017-01-14 Thread Ori Bernstein
produce a bootstrap binary for -fasm, if you're willing to put in the effort to get a native port. -- Ori Bernstein

Re: [9fans] IPV6

2017-04-01 Thread Ori Bernstein
On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 08:36:55PM +1100, Bruce Ellis wrote: > Does anyone know what IPV6 addresses like fec0:0:0:%1 mean and how to > make a real (plan9) IPV6 address from them. > > Regards. > > brucee The portion before the '%' is a plain old (link local) ipv6 address. The part after the '

Re: [9fans] p9p: 9 ls /dev

2017-04-07 Thread Ori Bernstein
e OK in regular usage. I don't use OSX regularly, although I do maintain the syscall layer for Myrddin on it. Getdirentries64 exists, and rudimentary testing doesn't show any difficulties with using it. -- Ori Bernstein