Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-06 Thread Don A. Bailey
then be asked to >> provide explanations afterward > > What was actually asked, > https://github.com/g-w1/plan9zig/pull/2#issuecomment-2394838562 > >> Most of these comments are redundant with what the code does. >> Before I merge, could you please remove most of th

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-02 Thread Don A. Bailey
Why? (Not being flip. This is the first I’ve heard of it and I’d like your thoughts.) D > On Oct 2, 2024, at 3:31 PM, Noam Preil wrote: > > V is a scam. > > - Noam Preil -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.c

Re: [9fans] Pi Zero - Ethernet?

2024-08-07 Thread Don A. Bailey
Is this literally all AI bots just talking to themselves On Aug 7, 2024, at 7:53 PM, Clout Tolstoy wrote:For spi, you will may have to write your own driver. There are a few helpful guides on YouTube from adventuresin9 on this subject.  I've only booted 9front on a pi 4B. On Wed, Aug 7, 20

Re: [9fans] Re: Raspberry pi with a largish screen?

2024-05-09 Thread a
Thank you, this exact set of lines ends up being exactly right for driving my  LG 27UK850-W at 1/4 resolution (native resolution would need some work put into the window system and fonts to be more comfortable). I don't believe I'd tried the max_framebuffer_* or hdmi_pixel_freq_limit settings bef

[9fans] Re: Raspberry pi with a largish screen?

2024-05-08 Thread a
Thanks, that’s promising. What’s your monitor? -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tcb982002ae12827e-Md8ee947e62368b9743804cd2 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

[9fans] Raspberry pi with a largish screen?

2024-05-08 Thread a
Is anyone running a Raspberry pi with a largish display? I've not been able to get anything over 1920x1080 working. If you are, I'd love to see your config.txt and hear about anything you had to do beyond flashing the "normal" image. ---

[9fans] Re: IWP9 slides and materials

2024-04-26 Thread a
Thanks; I really enjoyed the talk. Is your version of the thumb toolchain in one of your repos? -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tab907fb0f88c6a95-M8d86abc50d7cfb4331cf7c70 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/group

Re: [9fans] Content of your /rc/bin/service or /dis/svc ?

2024-03-05 Thread a
I wonder what percentage of people who reply are going to be running a finger server they wrote. :-) My tcp79 comes from my implementation, here:  http://txtpunk.com/finger/index.html I think we've got enough interoperable unicode-aware implementations we can start working on the update t

[9fans] Re: Summer of Code 2024

2024-02-21 Thread a
We unfortunately were not selected for GSoC this year. If you were looking for a fun way to spend your summer, we’d of course love to still work with you regardless, or if you’re looking for GSoC specifically, there are a ton of other interesting projects participating, as always: https

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-25 Thread Don A. Bailey
Tough. ❤️ > On Jan 25, 2024, at 10:51 PM, Lucio De Re wrote: > > On 1/26/24, Don A. Bailey wrote: >> I literally don’t care. >> > Then I don't think you belong here. > > If you believe you can excommunicate the majority of Plan 9 > contributors (have

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-25 Thread Don A. Bailey
I don’t think you realize that you have your entire emotional perception of this situation flipped. This was a simple comment on why I strongly disagreed with VT’s request for a 5th Release. I explained myself. I did not get emotional, nor am I emotional now. What I did receive is a lot of

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-25 Thread Don A. Bailey
I literally don’t care. > On Jan 25, 2024, at 8:18 PM, Jacob Moody wrote: > > On 1/25/24 17:38, Don A. Bailey wrote: >> It’s telling that you see a difference of opinion as a temper tantrum. A >> major problem with people’s perspective of 9front and the current

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-25 Thread Don A. Bailey
I look forward to not seeing 9front as a part of a formal release, then. Thanks! > On Jan 25, 2024, at 7:00 PM, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > > Great; let me repeat one more time: The Plan 9 > foundation does not currently engage in technical > work such as putting together

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-25 Thread Don A. Bailey
It’s telling that you see a difference of opinion as a temper tantrum. A major problem with people’s perspective of 9front and the current plan 9 community, honestly. > On Jan 25, 2024, at 6:35 PM, Jacob Moody wrote: > > On 1/25/24 16:03, Don A. Bailey wrote: >> I’m aware

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-25 Thread Don A. Bailey
Last I checked (you) were asking for people to sign up. What’s the actual attendee count at this point? > On Jan 25, 2024, at 5:33 PM, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > > Also: We're organizing IWP9 largely as a forum > for folks like you to figure out how to make this > all h

Re: [9fans] P9F meetings (was: Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community)

2024-01-25 Thread Don A. Bailey
Hard agree. > On Jan 25, 2024, at 5:30 PM, David Arnold wrote: > >  >> >> On 26 Jan 2024, at 07:38, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > > <…> > >> If you have specific ways we can support people like you >> taking up the torch and carrying plan 9 development forward, >> please speak up and let us

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-25 Thread Don A. Bailey
I’m aware you’re a member of the foundation. What I want I think I’ve made clear. I do not want to see a formal release of Plan 9 that includes anything from the 9front project. I do not want 9front merged with what I tongue-in-cheek term “mainline” (9legacy / 9pio updated patch sets). I’d

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-25 Thread Don A. Bailey
That’s why I use quotes around mainline. And what you stated is also a big reason I’m not interested in 9front. No idea what your direction is or what your interests are. I like a lot of the things done by the core team, and the direction set by them. I’m not interested in 9front. Seeing a

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-25 Thread Don A. Bailey
Yeah but we don’t necessarily need patches from 9front. The ones of good quality are really already being pulled in. Cinap does a lot of solid work. My only issue is seeing the two maintain a strong delineation, which I obviously prefer.On Jan 25, 2024, at 4:04 PM, Eli Cohen wrote:we'v

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-25 Thread Don A. Bailey
pect I may have started to develop for you. > >> On Jan 25, 2024, at 08:44, Don Bailey wrote: >> >> I'm not sure what all this was, so I didn't read most of it. >> >> If 9front becomes the "mainline" 9, I will stop using 9 altogether. Both as

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Don A. Bailey
I use it. It’s also my advice. It wasn’t “advice” from Rob, it was a design choice. There’s more value in that than “advice”. Not interested in your theoretical discussions or trolling. Thanks. D > On Jan 24, 2024, at 10:44 PM, Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > &g

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Don A. Bailey
Tbf I took it as genuine. One reason I responded with no is that Rob noted that further 9 releases should not be a release at all, but should be fluid updates through the network. I think if 9 lives on it should be that was, as intended. I am not a fan of the weird 9front split from the

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Foundation is a 501(c)(3)

2023-12-12 Thread a
> If you’d like to make a donation in another way, more > information can be found on the Foundation’s page for > donations: > http://plan9foundation.org/donate.html It's been pointed out to me that the text didn't match the helpfully-automatically-added link. What th

Re: [9fans] htmlroff -ms footnotes

2023-10-06 Thread a
see test.(html|ms) in http://a.9srv.net/htmlroff/ -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T530822947a31ba06-M95035f63cbfc822d50ac389a Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

[9fans] htmlroff -ms footnotes

2023-10-06 Thread a
Working on a little one-page report, I noticed htmlroff wasn't outputing my footnotes. Looking at the papers in /sys/doc, it seems htmlroff produces them properly when they're in the abstract, but not in the main body. Anybody looked at this o

Re: [9fans] RPi in QEMU

2023-08-26 Thread Don A. Bailey
M architecture (AArch64" > oh well > >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 1:45 PM mkf wrote: >> >> I believe KVM on aarch64 would help aarch64 guests. >> i could be wrong. >> >> On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 13:39:01 +0200 >> hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wr

Re: [9fans] Re: How do I run plan9 in virtualbox?

2023-08-02 Thread Don A. Bailey
If you’re not running plan9 on a Simics Alpha DEC hosted on a PA-RISC B class workstation, are you even running plan9?On Aug 2, 2023, at 3:14 PM, redhatuser wrote: So according to you, which one do you use? 9fans / 9fans / see discussions + participants + delivery options Permalink

Re: [9fans] plan9 in 2023 - which edition, fork, distro and what host

2023-07-26 Thread Don A. Bailey
st current) source for the distro and is it best practice to install it on hardware (RPI or other) or in a VM (which)? I'd like the mouse to work and the network... As unflakily as possible 😀.Will 9fans / 9fans / see discussions + participants + delivery options Permalink

Re: [9fans] Schedule

2023-04-20 Thread Don A. Bailey
am Edouard Klein: Dr Glendarme or: How I Learned to Stop > Kerberos and Love Factotum > 11:15 am Jacob Moody: Namespaces as Security Domains > > 12:00 pm Lunch > > * Session 2: Storage * > > 1:30 pm Emil Tsalapatis, Ryan Hancock and Ali Jose Mashtizadeh: A 9P > Server

Re: [9fans] The development environment from Hell

2022-01-11 Thread marius a. eriksen
> So I thought about sam, which I also like, although I have not used it as much as acme. Sam has remote editing, which solves the latency and bandwidth problem, but I prefer the acme right-click to navigate compilation errors and grep results. So, can we combine acme and sam in a meaningful

Re: [9fans] Codebase navigation and using tags files in acme

2021-08-20 Thread a
I did port Exuberant ctags several years ago when I was dealing with a large body of unfamiliar code for a project. Mine is here: http://9p.io/sources/contrib/anothy/src/ctags/ It is a pretty straight-forward port, just adding an output type suitable for acme (file:n). About a year ago (I

Re: [9fans] How to setup wifi on raspberry pi 4

2021-08-10 Thread a
An example of automating what Richard said: My system name is 'syrup' and my local SSID is 'Ranch'. I have a plain file, $home/lib/wpa/Ranch, which has the WPA password in it. Then in /cfg/syrup/termrc, I have this: bind -a '#l1' /net echo 'key proto=wpapsk

Re: [9fans] Miller's 9pi image (rpi4) problems

2021-06-11 Thread a
FWIW, here's an excerpt from my /cfg/sysname/termrc which i use to start an extra fossil. The disk is a large (10TB from memory) WD Elements connected to one of the USB2 ports. I don't yet start the venti automatically because i keep remaking it to try different configurations, but it

[9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-23 Thread a
) were only available to a very small number of people. 3rd and 4th were previously available as open source, but under a license which was problematic for some people (especially the 3rd edition). We think making these available under the MIT license is something that's going to be a signif

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Foundation

2021-02-10 Thread Don A. Bailey
How do we get involved in or become a member of the foundation? D > On Feb 10, 2021, at 2:41 AM, Anthony Sorace wrote: > > We are pleased to announce the creation of the Plan 9 Foundation. > > The Foundation exists to promote and further the development of Plan 9 and > re

[9fans] Plan 9 troff paper size solution

2021-02-02 Thread John A.
Hi everyone, I've been trying to figure out how to create A4 documents with Plan 9 troff. Looking at the source of dpost and the PostScript output of GNU troff, I found a very easy solution. 1. Call dpost with -P to set the correct page size: dpost -P '<< /PageSize [ 595 84

[9fans] plan9port: acme remoting

2021-01-03 Thread marius a. eriksen
Lately, I have needed to do a great deal of my work on remote servers. It's been difficult to do this with acme. Previously, I have attempted to run acme entirely remotely, and then attach to a local devdraw instance <https://github.com/mariusae/devdrawserver>. This works okay, but al

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 4 stability dependent in RAM

2020-11-13 Thread a
Sigh. Dependent *on* ram. I should also point out that I'm not doing anything noteworthy in config.txt; I believe the only changes were HDMI settings. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Te91377223453b8c0-M3eb4ee7d94dedf3497d

[9fans] Raspberry Pi 4 stability dependent in RAM

2020-11-13 Thread a
I've got two Pi 4 with 1GB RAM and one with 4GB. All are running the same firmware. Using the same SD card in both, based on the image currently in contrib/miller, the Pi with 4GB behaves normally, while those with 1GB reboots after a while, seemingly spontaneously, while sitting idle. I

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 announcements on twitter

2020-11-12 Thread Don A. Bailey
nouncements to the community. Please >> consider following it; and if you tweet about Plan 9 or related topics, >> please try to include this handle in your announcements. >> > Is that a good idea? I, for one, have no intention of ever sharing a > medium with Donald Trump.

Re: [9fans] Arm Thumb compiler for Cortex-M

2020-11-05 Thread Don A. Bailey
Oh right. Thanks, Charles > On Nov 5, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > >  > http://vitanuova.com/inferno/downloads.html > >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 12:51 AM Don A. Bailey wrote: >> Where the heck is the inferno tree? >> >>>>

Re: [9fans] Arm Thumb compiler for Cortex-M

2020-11-05 Thread Don A. Bailey
gt; wrote: >> It's utils/tc in the Inferno tree. 5a does both ARM32 and Thumb (because >> it's abstract assembly), as does 5l. >> >>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 12:28 AM Don A. Bailey wrote: >>> Any source available? >>> >>>>> On

Re: [9fans] Arm Thumb compiler for Cortex-M

2020-11-05 Thread Don A. Bailey
Any source available? > On Nov 5, 2020, at 6:11 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > >  > There was a 5[ac] variant for Inferno (ta, tc) that produced Thumb code, and > 5l could link Thumb and ARM32 code. > That wasn't extended once Thumb-2 was issued, since it was different

Re: [9fans] Screen rotation on the Raspberry Pi 4?

2020-10-09 Thread a
Thanks, but I don't think the issues is that a different way of getting that directive working is the issue; that family of directives seems to be no longer supported. There are a bunch of posts for various linux systems about this, as well; they now rely on xrandr to do the job. I'm m

Re: [9fans] Screen rotation on the Raspberry Pi 4?

2020-10-09 Thread a
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[9fans] Screen rotation on the Raspberry Pi 4?

2020-10-08 Thread a
so, how? Relatedly, anyone tried porting the bitsy's software rotation? It's a lot more pixels to move around, but the cpu's also worlds faster, so...? Anthony -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T4c0ea2725cb1abdf

Re: [9fans] Jim McKie

2020-06-24 Thread Don A. Bailey
So sorry to learn this. My favorite memory of jmk, though I never knew him personally, was from 2003, when I was still learning how to engineer and hack operating system kernels. He and I exchanged emails regarding the best way to audit a kernel’s networking stack, as I had found some bugs in

Re: [9fans] IWP92020 Announcement

2020-01-13 Thread Don A. Bailey
Waterloo > On Jan 13, 2020, at 9:17 PM, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > > IWP92020 is happening. Submit papers and sign up here: > > http://iwp9.org > > Hope to see you there! > -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T

Re: [9fans] Is the vanilla Plan 9 still alive?

2019-11-22 Thread Don A. Bailey
This :) > On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:54 AM, Skip Tavakkolian > wrote: > >  > It's not dead; it's resting. > >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 10:29 PM wrote: >> The site hasn't been updated since 2014-2015. If it's dead, is there any >> chance of it coming back into development? > > 9fans / 9fans / se

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-08 Thread James A. Robinson
Oh that's very nice, I'll have to update and try it. Thank you for pointing this out! On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 10:19 AM Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > > since commit 9af9ceca, the metal backend has (undocumented), > > Allow touch events to simulate mouse clicks: > three finger tap for the middle mouse

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-08 Thread James A. Robinson
#x27;m not traveling much I'm using the Evoluent VM4RB VerticalMouse, which has 3+ buttons. On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 4:44 AM Steve Simon wrote: > > hi, > > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here. > > anyone using plan9port on osx? if so which mouse are y

Re: [9fans] Re: moving 9fans to new server, but still 9fans@9fans.net

2019-10-14 Thread James A. Robinson
> For fun, here's my first mail to 9fans. Wow, this makes me feel my age. I see your first email to the ilst was 23 years ago and mine was 21 years ago! -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T73a7388a716e3644-M239143a07611e83c

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 security

2019-08-20 Thread Don A. Bailey
Fwiw Plan 9’s code vase has indeed been audited. By me. Several exploitable bugs were found including a kernel exploit due to the env driver. I wrote a working PoC for it which is somewhere on the internet, but it’s quite old. Much of the code hasn’t changed, and, I would suspect, is largely

Re: [9fans] question re acme and plumber

2019-07-25 Thread James A. Robinson
Thanks, I stopped digging after that and just added a shell script wrapper to reformat the lines in question ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ $ cat ~/bin/mvn #!/bin/sh /usr/local/bin/mvn "$@" | sed 's!\.java:\[\([0-9]*\),[0-9]*\]!.java:\1!g'; On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 2:19 PM Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen

Re: [9fans] question re acme and plumber

2019-07-11 Thread James A. Robinson
Well, I can see this is getting called: look.c:187: if(m->ndata= 0){ and the m->data is the full line, including the trailing ".java:[,]" data. So it's certainly appears to be sending the data to the plumber. But I don't get the same behavior from acme as when I send the same text I see in m->da

Re: [9fans] question re acme and plumber

2019-07-11 Thread James A. Robinson
expand the plumber rule so I could select the bulk of the line (it's easier for me to select). Looking at src/cmd/acme/look.c I see that look3 has a section discussing sending a whitespace delimited section to the plumber, but it is guarded by a check of (plumbsendfd >= 0), and I see the

[9fans] question re acme and plumber

2019-07-10 Thread James A. Robinson
If I add a plumber rule for javac output: type is text data matches '\[ERROR\] ([.a-zA-Z¡-�0-9_/\-]+\.java):\[([0-9]+),[0-9]+\] .*' arg isfile $1 data set $file attr add addr=$2 plumb to edit plumb client $editor I can sweep a line (short of its trailing newline): [ERROR] /Users

[9fans] Slashed zero in Lucida Grande (macOS)

2019-04-02 Thread marius a. eriksen
seline serifs but the default zero and Oh are the same as in the original version. The Lucida Grande font also includes both slashed and dotted versions of zero, as well as a seriffed variant of capital I, but these are not the default forms." Intrigued, I went poking about macOS's font b

Re: [9fans] I prefer cropping images in Plan 9

2018-07-22 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
On Sat, Jul 21, 2018, at 4:20 PM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > On July 21, 2018 8:21:10 AM "Ethan A. Gardener" wrote: > > > I just had to crop a bunch of images in the Gimp, and recalled how much I > > prefer doing it in Plan 9; it's so much less frustrating. In the G

Re: [9fans] I prefer cropping images in Plan 9

2018-07-22 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
ean like... images? > Ha ha! :) Images in the terminal would be fun, but would have to wait until we have more than vt220/char cell display. That means it's going to get implemented under Plan 9 first, most likely. Forgot to say in other mail: Nothing wrong with storing structured pipe d

Re: [9fans] I prefer cropping images in Plan 9

2018-07-22 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
ain text? Kind of like > TempleOS or systemd's journal does. I had some idea of structured pipes, but that idea's been on the shelf so long it's synapse-rotted. I was thinking of ls ps and others outputting key-value pairs, fields of which could then be selected by name. I suppose t

[9fans] I prefer cropping images in Plan 9

2018-07-21 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
I just had to crop a bunch of images in the Gimp, and recalled how much I prefer doing it in Plan 9; it's so much less frustrating. In the Gimp, it's either a matter of estimating numbers (for a quick, casual job on visual media), or select, copy, paste into new window. In the latter

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

2018-06-27 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018, at 7:36 AM, Tyga wrote: > Re: your comment about trackpad / vertical mouse. > > I had a similar RSI problem a couple of years ago.  I solved it by using a > Logitech trackball with my right hand - but only to move the cursor and I > used a MS optical

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

2018-06-27 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018, at 6:17 AM, 刘宇宝 wrote: > > > > On Jun 25, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Ethan A. Gardener wrote: > > > > > > I picked up an idea from microapl.com, workspaces. Saving system > > state is one of my goals for my OS, and the concept of workspaces &g

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

2018-06-27 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
sad when I read it too, but like you, I hope the prevalence of KVM will bring a new wave of OS development. :) > > • Server hardware will become extreme powerful, TB DRAM, non-volatile > memory, NVMe disk, 100Gb ethernet, the paradigm of separate cpu server, > file server, (a lit

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

2018-06-25 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, at 7:03 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Jun 21, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Ethan A. Gardener wrote: > > > > Thanks! I don't know APL at all, beyond the fact that its need for a > > graphical (or at least sophisticated) display held it back in the past. I >

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

2018-06-21 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, at 6:39 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:35:42PM +0100, Ethan A. Gardener wrote: > > > > a sort of operating system where the primary interface to all tasks is > > a Forth interpreter. > > I think we've talked about this

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

2018-06-21 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, at 5:49 AM, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 05:58:42 +0200 Lucio De Re wrote: > Lucio De Re writes: > > On 6/20/18, Ethan A. Gardener wrote: > > > [ ... ] Most of it is going into game scripting at the moment, but on the > > > b &

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

2018-06-21 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, at 4:58 AM, Lucio De Re wrote: > On 6/20/18, Ethan A. Gardener wrote: > > [ ... ] Most of it is going into game scripting at the moment, but on the > > back > > burner is a Forth-based project; a sort of operating system where the > > primary

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

2018-06-21 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, at 8:20 AM, Mart Zirnask wrote: > On 21/06/2018, Ethan A. Gardener wrote: > >... I no longer have a desk of > > the right proportions to make mouse use comfortable, and can no longer bend > > over a laptop for hours on end, (a Thinkpad with 3 butt

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

2018-06-20 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
ant I could miss things sometimes, such as a clue in a room description or a private message while travelling -- noscroll isn't really feasible when you're following someone rapidly through a dozen rooms, each with their own description. I never got around to filtering different kinds o

Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor?

2018-06-13 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
As a small extra hint if you ever need to work outside Acme, any delete of selected text is effectively a cut. You can paste it back in. I used to use that like undo all the time. On Wed, May 9, 2018, at 7:32 AM, 刘宇宝 wrote: > Hi all, > > Recently I started an adventure to 9front and f

[9fans] looking for tcl/tk sam clone

2018-06-13 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
i had a copy of sam clone written entirely in tcl/tk, "tsam" or something, but I've lost it. where can i download it from, please? -- The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. -- Chaucer

Re: [9fans] simple rc problem in p9p (on OpenBSD)

2018-06-13 Thread Ethan A. Gardener
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Costin Chirvasuta wrote: > I lot of the messages on this list end up being marked as spam. I > believe there was a previous discussion about this. I've had no trouble with this list on fastmail.fm , for what it's worth.

Re: [9fans] Inferno on Plan9

2017-12-30 Thread James A. Robinson
sy to bring in people to program on a Linux based platform, easier than bringing people in to learn an OS they probably haven't even heard of. On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 3:37 AM, Andre Wingor wrote: > On 12/29/17, Brian L. Stuart wrote: > ​ > > ​[...] > I don't understand why

[9fans] Edit X// and with a pipe in plan9port?

2017-06-28 Thread James A. Robinson
So let's say I have an Edit line Edit ,x,(^//.+\n)+(const|func|type|var) , x,^(// [^ \t].*\n|//\n)+,|sed 's:^//::'|fmt|sed 's:^://:' that I can use in a tag to reformat comments in a body. I noticed that while it's possible to run an Edit with an X from a sep

[9fans] Do you use fossil or venti under Linux?

2017-06-06 Thread James A. Robinson
While I was playing around getting v9fs mounts to work, I see that plan9port has added fossil and venti at some point. I was curious whether or not anyone was actually running these under Linux? Jim

[9fans] v9fs authentication question

2017-06-05 Thread James A. Robinson
If I want to be able to use v9fs to mount a plan9 fileserver as a specific user, do I need to provide credentials via plan9port factotum? Drawterm takes an argument about which authentication server to talk to, but the directions I see for v9fs seem to only talk about USER environment variables

Re: [9fans] Acme Edit to remove lines

2017-05-26 Thread James A. Robinson
You ought to be able to just add '\n' to the end of your expression in an 'x//' + 'd' command sequence. For example, "search the file for lines starting with [a-z] and delete the entire line" would be: Edit ,x/^[a-z].+\n/d On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 7:23 AM d

Re: [9fans] Reimplementing Plan 9 in Go (Was: Re: [9front] bio io functions)

2017-05-06 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
Cross fingers... On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Fran. J Ballesteros wrote: > not yet. > sorry for the "was". > > El 6 may 2017, a las 15:12, Peter A. Cejchan escribió: > > "clive was just another attempt"...oh, no... Clive is dead ??? > >

Re: [9fans] Reimplementing Plan 9 in Go (Was: Re: [9front] bio io functions)

2017-05-06 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
"clive was just another attempt"...oh, no... Clive is dead ??? On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote: > I don’t now if clive or not, > > but, I think the world has changed and I’d like to get a plan9 like > environment > but considering as the

[9fans] Proof of concept inertial scrolling on macOS with devdraw/acme

2017-02-26 Thread marius a. eriksen
It’s surprisingly pleasant to use (with a Mac laptop, a Magic Trackpad or aMagic Mouse) Demo here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XJFJ4coS48&feature=youtu.be commit d782c880d4ca30fcacddfbab298dad82fe8277c3 Author: marius a. eriksen Date: Sat Feb 25 21:48:50 2017 -0800 devdraw/

Re: [9fans] raspberry pi root over tcp

2016-11-25 Thread James A. Robinson
On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > > panic: boot process died: undefined instruction: pc 0x605c > > I bet that's a SWPW instruction - valid for armv5, deprecated > for armv6, and illegal for armv7. > > You probably

[9fans] raspberry pi root over tcp

2016-11-24 Thread James A. Robinson
Hi folks, I can boot a raspberry pi using its local fossil, and I can mount a remote fileserver using 9fs once it is booted. Next, I wanted to try and mount the filesystem as the pi's root. Based on this http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/8/plan9.ini http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/8/boot I tried

Re: [9fans] How to take a portion of a screenshot

2016-11-23 Thread James A. Robinson
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:33 PM Benjamin Purcell wrote: > even simpler: > > tojpg < /mnt/wsys/window > window.jpg Simpler because you're capturing a specific window in this case?

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread James A. Robinson
9fans - best served dry.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-16 Thread James A. Robinson
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 3:54 PM Chris McGee wrote: > A C compiler that supports the latest spec would be nice as long as it > doesn't sacrifice compile times. I like how quickly the system can > recompile itself. Maybe extend pcc to include new features? > I'll admit to

Re: [9fans] Maintenance of an auth server files vs a dns+dhcp+tftp server

2016-11-15 Thread James A. Robinson
That sounds *very* useful. Thank you! I had 9atom installed, but was planning to try out 9front next (probably this weekend). Jim On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 4:23 PM wrote: > you might take a look at 9front devtls and libsec. it does support > tls1.1 and tls1.2. including ecdsa, ecdhe

Re: [9fans] Maintenance of an auth server files vs a dns+dhcp+tftp server

2016-11-15 Thread James A. Robinson
Ah, ok. I'll try that. Thank you! On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:05 AM Stanley Lieber wrote: > "James A. Robinson" wrote: > > >So in a canonical installation the auth server mounts its root from the > >file server? > > > >On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:4

Re: [9fans] Maintenance of an auth server files vs a dns+dhcp+tftp server

2016-11-15 Thread James A. Robinson
So in a canonical installation the auth server mounts its root from the file server? On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:47 AM Stanley Lieber wrote: > The idea is that there is one file system shared by all the neighboring > systems. The canonical Plan 9 installation comprises one disk file server

[9fans] Maintenance of an auth server files vs a dns+dhcp+tftp server

2016-11-15 Thread James A. Robinson
Folks, For a multi-machine network of Plan 9 services, would it be normal to have an authsrv machine that only runs that service, and uses a standalone local filesystem, and then have a separate server running dns+dhcp+tftp to PXE boot client machines. The latter would be backed by a 3rd machine

Re: [9fans] Purism laptops

2016-11-12 Thread James A. Robinson
On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 1:12 PM Harri Haataja wrote: > https://puri.sm/learn/blobs/ Indeed, blobs seems to be one point. > > Another thing seems to be that they advertise that these laptops > have no hidden features or remote control. How they could claim to > guarantee this and

Re: [9fans] Purism laptops

2016-11-12 Thread James A. Robinson
On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Andrés Domínguez wrote: > D​​o they really make open hardware? In what aspect > is their hardware more open than any other laptop? Hi, A summary would bet hat typically the hardware drivers that are run on a computer come in two possible forms, either

Re: [9fans] Purism laptops

2016-11-11 Thread James A. Robinson
he 15". I guess they haven't got enough traction yet to be on a regular build cycle (makes me think of the issues getting ahold of One Plus One phone). On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 3:41 PM Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > Those things really aren't cheap, are they... >

[9fans] Purism laptops

2016-11-11 Thread James A. Robinson
Have folks seen https://puri.sm/ ? Their description of how they are trying to put together "open" hardware (not 100% there yet) makes me wonder if it'd be open enough w/re to hardware specs to make it a target for Plan 9 porting/support. Jim

Re: [9fans] Job interview questions

2016-11-09 Thread James A. Robinson
ane”, I am at a loss. Any hints from the group? > Happy to help. > 1) What is the base object in .Net Despair. > 2) Which version of Asp.Net MVC have you used The wrong one. > 3) Explain MVC in general The 'model' is your database connection

Re: [9fans] What does your fileserver consist of?

2016-11-09 Thread James A. Robinson
Ah, I'm not familiar with those. I ended up buying a fairly old board, but one I knew would work (for everything) with the plan 9 kernels. I got a Supermicro X7SPA-H-D525, and while it isn't amazingly zippy (11 sec to build /sys/src/9/pc) it seems to be fast enough to be a file server

Re: [9fans] IWP9

2016-11-08 Thread James A. Robinson
And will the Proceedings be called 9p? On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:31 PM michaelian ennis wrote: I just realized that the next would be the 9th International Workshop on Plan 9. I wonder where it will be. Ian

Re: [9fans] q re /sys/src/cmd/disk/prep/prep.c:240

2016-11-04 Thread James A. Robinson
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 1:43 PM Steve Simon wrote: > The usual process is to use prep first to create a windows etc > compatible partition table with one big partition called plan9. > then subdivide that. > > see the recipie near the end of the format(1) manpage. > > why part

[9fans] /sys/src/9/port/portfns.h execregs uint vs ulong

2016-11-04 Thread James A. Robinson
While futzing around with rebuilding a kernel, I noticed that 9atom distributed source tree /sys/src/9/port/portfns.h declares void* execregs(uintptr, uint, uint) but /sys/src/9/pc/trap.c declares long execregs(ulong entry, ulong ssize, ulong nargs) which seems to match all the other

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