Re: [9fans] [APExp] which non-9front Plan9 variants are active? (for portability testing)

2024-09-17 Thread arnold
Thanks for the info. FYI, just this morning I released gawk 5.3.1; it should be on ftp.gnu.org by now. If not, it will be soon. Thanks! Arnold Jens Staal wrote: > Yes in fact in the 0.1 release, I am using gawk 4.0.0 (an old port) as > default awk. > > Current "main" br

Re: [9fans] [APExp] which non-9front Plan9 variants are active? (for portability testing)

2024-09-17 Thread arnold
Although Plan 9 has some version of BWK's awk on it, I'd be curious if you can get gawk running in your extended APE. Thanks, Arnold -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T399a5d787978799e-M19098a01e7d0a7fcf590157

Re: [9fans] Where can I find active Plan 9 communities for support and collaboration?

2024-08-04 Thread arnold
r heard of it. It might > have helped. It's ~ 10 years old. Is it still relevant? Or do you plan to update it? Thanks, Arnold -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9804faa2e50a80d8-Mcd1c3f432933c6476cb5b9f6 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 from User Space still mantained?

2024-06-21 Thread David Arnold
You might try the developers mailing list plan9port-...@googlegroups.com as well d > On 20 Jun 2024, at 22:53, Roderick wrote: > > Dear Sirs! > > I hope, I can also ask here about Plan9 port ... > > I just compiled master from on FreeBSD14.0: > https://9fans.github.io/plan9port/ > > Is th

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

2024-05-14 Thread arnold
"B. Atticus Grobe" wrote: > As for companies that use 9, Coraid (Brantley Coile) was invested in 9 for > their network storage systems, although it's possible their newer products > don't utilize it. They still do. See h

Re: [9fans] troll paper

2024-04-15 Thread arnold
Taj Khattra wrote: > > > You might find help in culang.org > > > > DNS can't seem to find that for me > > https://cuelang.org/ Much thanks! Arnold -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.co

Re: [9fans] troll paper

2024-04-15 Thread arnold
Charles Forsyth wrote: > > And, if I hear about it being > > “declarative” as a virtue, I point to the 81,000+ lines (and > > growing) of YAML, that I defy any one human to comprehend. > > > You might find help in culang.org DNS can't seem to find t

Re: [9fans] troll paper

2024-04-12 Thread David Arnold
> The vetting process needs some work, lads. More heresy than trolling, perhaps? It was thought-provoking for me. I wished I was there for the bar session afterwards. d -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T51f7f5a8927

[9fans] P9F meetings (was: Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community)

2024-01-25 Thread David Arnold
> On 26 Jan 2024, at 07:38, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: <…> > If you have specific ways we can support people like you > taking up the torch and carrying plan 9 development forward, > please speak up and let us know; I'll ensure that it gets > discussed at the next P9F meeting. Is there any recor

Re: [9fans] programs from UNI*x

2023-06-29 Thread arnold
Conor Williams wrote: > well Arnold?, 1. is the LINE pre processor directive supported by p9 > and also i2s _*that*_ function declared properly (&+3 is that definitely > the source that compiled > properly on SM. Windows et. Al?) I completely don't understand this. No nee

Re: [9fans] programs from UNI*x

2023-06-28 Thread arnold
Jacob Moody wrote: > On 6/28/23 10:09, arn...@skeeve.com wrote: > > I'd love to know if gawk can be made to work on Plan 9. > > Latest release is at https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gawk/ > > > > Or you can clone the git repo. > > > > Thanks, > > >

Re: [9fans] programs from UNI*x

2023-06-28 Thread arnold
I'd love to know if gawk can be made to work on Plan 9. Latest release is at https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gawk/ Or you can clone the git repo. Thanks, Arnold Conor Williams wrote: > hello there 9fans.ers > > anyone need any UniX programs transferred (port.ed) to Plan9 > >

Re: [9fans] kencc for 64 bit intel linux?

2023-02-06 Thread arnold
Thanks, I will check it out. Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > Is there a version of kencc somewhere that can be easily built > > and installed on Linux and used as a plain C compiler? > > > > I'd prefer for x86_64 but I'll take one that only compiles 32 bit. > > https://github.com

[9fans] kencc for 64 bit intel linux?

2023-02-06 Thread arnold
Hi All. A little off topic, apologies. Is there a version of kencc somewhere that can be easily built and installed on Linux and used as a plain C compiler? I'd prefer for x86_64 but I'll take one that only compiles 32 bit. Thanks, Arnold --

Re: [9fans] void*

2022-05-15 Thread arnold
7;t complain because any pointer type can be passed to a void* parameter. Otherwise you'd need to cast: memmove((uchar*) s, (uchar*) & s[1], 4 * sizeof(struct foo)); void* has been standard practice (even on Plan 9) for 30+ years. It's not worth changing it now. :-) HTH,

Re: [9fans] v9fs vs mmap (not quite SOLVED)

2021-10-27 Thread arnold
d and stripped, then yes, you're out of luck. Try it. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. It won't be the first time. :-) Arnold -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tb065f4df67a8bab9-M149789ec7553d42e1fba4eff Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] v9fs vs mmap (not quite SOLVED)

2021-10-27 Thread arnold
to use mmap. Um, nm(1) on the binary to see what it calls? Just a thought... :-) Arnold -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tb065f4df67a8bab9-Mbfab54f8bfadab46ceee71b5 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] troff refer and bib

2021-04-08 Thread arnold
ves (see tuhs.org). I suspect that the Heirloom Troff versions could also be made to work. HTH, Arnold -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T2e70e97724f65028-M46ff38b6dae4038e6646cb33 Delivery options: https://9fans.top

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread arnold
Nobody is disgruntled (that we know about). The code under discussion in Richard Miller's contributed bcm kernel. Arnold Jeremy Jackins wrote: > Seems to me that there is always going to be some non-zero risk of lawsuits > when making a change like this, but clearly the fou

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-31 Thread arnold
the MIT license. There should not be a need to involve Nokia any further. My two cents. And apologies - I don't mean to start a long discussion about licensing. I'd rather let P9F worry about it (and throw a few $$ at them to help). I suggest we all do the same. :-) Arnold ---

Re: [9fans] Can compile Plan9 C compiler for windows10?

2021-03-29 Thread arnold
Russ Cox wrote: > Standard C has moved on, and the Plan 9 C compilers have not kept up. > They're still fine for Plan 9 C code, but given the choice > I wouldn't throw anything else at them. That's pretty definitive. Thanks. Arnold ---

Re: [9fans] Can compile Plan9 C compiler for windows10?

2021-03-29 Thread arnold
OK - wasn't kenc ported to Linux for bootstrapping the early Go compilers? Is that version general, or not worth my trying to use? Thanks, Arnold Charles Forsyth wrote: > > > > I doubt very much that using the Plan 9 C compilers will bring much > > additional benefit f

Re: [9fans] Can compile Plan9 C compiler for windows10?

2021-03-29 Thread arnold
ld(1). I'd think that getting the ABI and generation of ELF (or of standard Linux assembly language) correct would be the hard part. What am I missing? Thanks, Arnold Russ Cox wrote: > Hi Arnold, > > The hard part is not so much the compiling but the linking against > system li

Re: [9fans] Can compile Plan9 C compiler for windows10?

2021-03-28 Thread arnold
pilers. I have often wanted to add kenc into the mix, but haven't found a usable, standalone version thereof.) Thanks, Arnold ron minnich wrote: > Nxm built kencen toolchain on Linux. > > https://github.com/rminnich/NxM > > We could build all of plan9 on Linux. You might be

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-23 Thread arnold
ink the Pascal compiler used the PCC back end, but I no longer remember for sure. If so, you might could hook it up to the revived PCC project. Although it sounds like a fun project, there are probably better uses for your time. :-) Arnold -- 9fans: 9

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-23 Thread arnold
ax. You'd have to port it to current architectures, and compiling TeX would probably make TeX run more slowly than the C version. The Berkeley Pascals were some of the compilers used for "Software Tools in Pascal". Arnold -- 9fans: 9f

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread arnold
e I'm > specifically interested in. Maybe it's tucked away in the > bitsaver archives ... Have you checked the TUHS archives? V7 source is there, it should be all of it... Arnold -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9f

Re: [9fans] looking for an old program

2020-10-11 Thread arnold
; > https://orib.dev/tmp/schem.tgz Thanks Ori and Aksr who answered. I've pulled down a copy. Arnold -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T77d844ca40469192-M3de9cf34ac858fb71780e0f4 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

[9fans] looking for an old program

2020-10-08 Thread Arnold Robbins
Hi All. Is there a current URL from which I can snarf this program? Thanks, Arnold > From: fernanbola...@mailc.net (Fernan Bolando) > Subject: [9fans] slightly on topic: pic preprocessor for drawing electronic > circuits > Message-ID: > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:01:37

Re: [9fans] 9legacy usb kb/mouse?

2019-12-23 Thread arnold
without ps/2 kb/mouse attached. > > Some motherboards (I don't know about Dell) have a special setting > to enable different mouse protocols at boot time. Look for > something like "usb legacy support". I have also seen this affect USB keyboards (on Linux). Enabling it hel

Re: [9fans] ARM hardware and SATA

2019-12-13 Thread David Arnold
> On 12 Dec 2019, at 17:32, Lucio De Re wrote: > > I'd like suggestions for some hardware on which to run Plan 9, almost > certainly expandable SSD capacity will be a must (Venti service). > Price and quality will be the biggest factors, as always. > > Ideally, storage is where the value will r

Re: [9fans] ARM hardware and SATA

2019-12-12 Thread David Arnold
> On 12 Dec 2019, at 17:31, Lucio De Re wrote: > > I'd like suggestions for some hardware on which to run Plan 9, almost > certainly expandable SSD capacity will be a must (Venti service). > Price and quality will be the biggest factors, as always. > > Ideally, storage is where the value will re

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-20 Thread arnold
o the group. I reported something directly to Russ a few days ago, but didn't hear back... Thanks, Arnold -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Teef4e32e6f6c10de-M6921d1a2c1823562acebfbf0 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] printing from Plan 9

2019-09-16 Thread arnold
Modern HP printers are very easy to handle. They sit on the network and Linux can find them automatically. HP provides excellent LInux support for their printers. CUPS isn't fun but it's not rocket science; once you get it going it's generally set and forget. My 2 cents,

[9fans] strange propogation paths in 9fans mail?

2019-05-04 Thread arnold
Hi. Is this happening for anyone else? Relatively recently, it's happened that I see the replies before the originals, with delays in between of *days*. This has happened in the past with 9fans, but not recently, and now it's started again... Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] Someone made a Wayland compositor based on Rio, Wio

2019-05-01 Thread David Arnold
It seems like it runs another Wayland compositor (Cage) in its windows, so the ability to nest compositors is there but I saw no mention of nesting itself. No fs yet either although it’s mentioned as a todo. d > On 2 May 2019, at 14:36, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > Can Wio run inside Wio?

Re: [9fans] Rc port.

2019-01-28 Thread arnold
> https://github.com/benavento/rc > > Have fun. > ???- > Federico G. Benavento > benave...@gmail.com On Ubuntu 18.04, doing make, I get errors on several files. See attached. Thanks, Arnold ERRS Description: Binary data

Re: [9fans] sources down

2018-12-31 Thread arnold
s are always reconstructed forward, > starting from the complete original file. OK, then it makes sense then. Much thanks! Arnold

Re: [9fans] sources down

2018-12-31 Thread arnold
d it from the "old" one, and said script says "delete lines N through M", how does one recover the lines that were deleted? (With context or unified diffs, the deleted text is there.) Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] sources down

2018-12-30 Thread arnold
> possible to regenerate the original files with a bit of scripting. > > -- > David du Colombier How does that work if lines were deleted? Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 C compiler for RISC-V by Richard Miller

2018-10-28 Thread arnold
o bring up and install to use an an additional compiler for testing a Free Software project. Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] PDP11

2018-10-08 Thread David Arnold
> On 9 Oct 2018, at 14:08, Digby R.S. Tarvin wrote: <…> > So I don't think it i would be worth a substantial rewrite to get it going. > It is a shame that there don't seem to have been any more powerful machines > with a comparably elegant architecture and attractive front panel :) > > An att

Re: [9fans] updating awk ...

2018-08-28 Thread arnold
Thanks for the info. I may pull the iso to take a look. In any case, for those using BWK's awk, it's worth pulling in the latest set of changes, they're not huge. Thanks, Arnold hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > spew is a 9front user who wanted to improve awk. >

[9fans] updating awk ...

2018-08-27 Thread Arnold Robbins
Hi. A few years ago Erik synced the Plan 9 awk with Brian Kernighan's. I have recently gotten BWK to fix some long-standing bugs. His code is updated and available at https://github.com/onetrueawk/awk. If "someone" wants to pull in his changes, now's a good time to do so. :-) Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] RPI faq in words of one syllable?

2018-01-11 Thread arnold
an re-create it easily enough, but not for a > week or two due to insanity at $WORK. > > --lyndon Hi. There is certainly no hurry. I would greatly appreciate it if you can find your notes or reproduce them; I suspect that I'm not the only one. MUCH thanks! Arnold

[9fans] RPI faq in words of one syllable?

2018-01-11 Thread arnold
Plan 9 and set it up as a standalone system. Etc. Thanks! Arnold

[9fans] Yet Another small form factor Intel platform

2017-01-11 Thread arnold
https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-unveils-intel-compute-card-credit-card-sized-compute-platform/

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread David Arnold
On 17 Nov 2016, at 12:18, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 07:55:38PM -0500, Charlie Lin wrote: >> Also does anyone want to host the source tree in a repository? > > This sounds like a lot of work. Who would undertake this?? GitHub, GitLab, or BitBucket all provide gratis repository

[9fans] x86 alternative to rPi

2016-09-28 Thread arnold
FYI folks. http://betanews.com/2016/09/22/solidrun-x86-braswell-microsom-linux-windows-10-raspberry-pi/ Arnold

Re: [9fans] Musings on Interfaces

2016-09-01 Thread arnold
Steve was borrowing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALGOL : C. A. R. Hoare remarked: "Here is a language so far ahead of its time that it was not only an improvement on its predecessors but also on nearly all its successors." (This one is also mostly true. :

Re: [9fans] Compiling ken-cc on Linux

2015-11-27 Thread arnold
ch poorer. On Linux you can't use it for debugging either - it doesn't generate the debug info you need. :-( For that, GCC and clang are the way to go. I agree with the general sentiments - GLIBC and GCC are both bloated. But for the day-to-day work that *I* do, they're livable. My two cents, Arnold

Re: [9fans] off topic - a good Git reference

2015-10-01 Thread arnold
Jeff Sickel wrote: > And then if you want all the fancy tools & wrappers groups seem to like > these days: Git is best used from the command line. All the tools just get in the way. The libgit work is probably the way to go for Plan 9. Arnold

Re: [9fans] Replacement for find

2015-09-30 Thread arnold
Is there a C level equivalent of the BSD fts(3) suite of routines? Or even the System V ftw / GLIBC nftw suite? I suspect that having this would save some wheel-reinvention in these kinds of programs. Thanks, Arnold erik quanstrom wrote: > On Wed Sep 30 01:12:36 PDT 2015, charles.f

Re: [9fans] origins of configure

2015-07-09 Thread arnold
always 20/20". That's all I'll say on the topic. Arnold tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 09:24:57AM -0600, arn...@skeeve.com wrote: > > So, the history is more than this. > > > > Larry Wall's Configure (capital C) for rn and Perl was

[9fans] origins of configure

2015-07-09 Thread arnold
tart over today, one could likely arrive at a simpler system, but portability problems remain, and they are real. Arnold erik quanstrom wrote: > confirmed. it's existence is due to early gnu programs fighting with > small variations in unix and compilers. byron's rc used a small s

Re: [9fans] Intel NUCs and Plan 9?

2015-07-09 Thread arnold
Raspberry pi isn't what I want. I want to be able to compile / do serious development and being able to run Linux would also help. I'm not comfortable moving outside of Intel architecture and I want the horsepower I can get out of a Haswell or Broadwell. Thanks, Arnold Shingo Onob

[9fans] Intel NUCs and Plan 9?

2015-07-09 Thread arnold
st, small form factor boxes to run Plan 9 would be welcome, preferably with links (:-). Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] Gawk in 9front-ports

2015-07-09 Thread arnold
to Plan 9 easier, if they're reasonable. HTH, Arnold Hugo Rivera wrote: > Let me understand. Are you going to modify the current gawk version > according to your needs (perhaps removing some of the bloat you > mention)? or are you going to port gawk as it is? > > 2015-07-08

Re: [9fans] Gawk in 9front-ports

2015-07-07 Thread arnold
spect, some of these are just bloat and I'd have been better off without them. Arnold

Re: [9fans] Gawk in 9front-ports

2015-07-07 Thread arnold
examples. I hope this helps. Please feel to contact me off-list if you need more info / help. Thanks! Arnold

Re: [9fans] Ports tree for Plan 9

2015-05-31 Thread arnold
sion of BWK's awk, for their POSIX awk. Quite some time ago I ported it to Linux; it took an hour or so. It'd take more work to make it generally portable, which I never bothered to do. Arnold

Re: [9fans] Ports tree for Plan 9

2015-05-31 Thread arnold
ny fixes to BWK's code since then. If you're going to start over, it should be done from his current code, available from his Princeton home page. Arnold

Re: [9fans] Ports tree for Plan 9

2015-05-30 Thread arnold
does one get the source? Is it intended to run on *nix also? It'd be nice to have since it's always fun to compare multiple implementations when trying to figure out a corner case. Besides BWK's awk, there is mawk, BusyBox awk, and the MKS awk as found in the various OpenSolaris derivatives. Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] using git

2015-03-30 Thread arnold
r most people to just use Linux as a bridge. Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] using git

2015-03-19 Thread arnold
ve. That's all I really have to say about it. I'll go crawl back under my rock now. Arnold

[9fans] using git

2015-03-19 Thread arnold
py to continue a discussion with you offline, if you wish. Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] ken cc for linux

2015-03-11 Thread arnold
quirrelled off into the 9fans mailbox by accident. Thanks! Arnold

[9fans] whence kenc for linux?

2015-03-10 Thread arnold
Hi. Where's the right place to find kenc for Linux? Thanks, Arnold

[9fans] [Off topic] Raspberry Pi 2 gets the evil OS

2015-02-03 Thread arnold
>From the "Be Still My Beating Heart" department: http://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/raspberrypi2support

Re: [9fans] glendix

2014-11-10 Thread arnold
; I looked at the git and the last check-in was over 5 years ago. It's aim is to run Plan 9 binaries, which means putting P9 system calls into the Linux kernel. p9p is a port of the P9 utilities to *nix; userland only. HTH, Arnold

Re: [9fans] silly question

2014-09-02 Thread arnold
"Steve Simon" wrote: > > I'd be happy to know the results of attempting a gawk port via APE. :-) > > Not sure Al, Peter, or Brian would forgive me :-) > Though if memory serves it has been done already. > > -Steve Brian is a good friend of mine. He (at least) wouldn't mind. :-) Arnold

Re: [9fans] silly question

2014-09-02 Thread arnold
sion is 4.1.1. Although this one would do for Steve who wanted time functions. Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] silly question

2014-09-02 Thread arnold
omting I could not in the plan9 distribution? > > -Steve I'd be happy to know the results of attempting a gawk port via APE. :-) Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

2014-08-27 Thread arnold
Hi. This looks wonderful. Is it available in a PDF or more paper oriented format, for us old fogeys? Thanks, Arnold "David L. Craig" wrote: > This is the publication I wished I had had several > months ago, so I decided to write it. With hundreds > of screen shots and a

Re: [9fans] troff documentation link broken

2014-07-31 Thread arnold
al formatter was nroff for printers and teletypes. Troff came along later, at which point .ul was already in use in people's documents and/or macro packages. HTH, Arnold

Re: [9fans] unicode 7.0.0 support

2014-06-16 Thread arnold
chett: "We're on a mission from Glod." :-) Arnold

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] fast kernel compile

2014-05-06 Thread arnold
Charles Forsyth wrote: > On 6 May 2014 09:38, wrote: > > > I think that "unaccountably" is a bit harsh. > > > I was talking about kernels and kernel mechanisms. Fair enough then. Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] fast kernel compile

2014-05-06 Thread arnold
ox on Linux, Solaris, *BSD. There is a lot of value to that, when what you care about is getting your work done (KTBR - Keep The Business Running). I well understand that this community is less concerned about that, but this community should also be open minded enough to understand those kinds of concerns. Arnold

[9fans] 9atom ISO images?

2014-04-25 Thread arnold
Hi. What is the status of the 9atom ISO images? I have a laptop that I think is too old to boot from USB that perhaps I can put Plan 9 on... Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] first questions from a lurker

2014-03-10 Thread arnold
Pardon my not replying individually - thanks all of you for the answers! I'm looking forward to climbing this learning curve. :-) Arnold

Re: [9fans] first questions from a lurker

2014-03-10 Thread arnold
And of course, I forgot another question: 4. How to do the moral equivalent of shutdown -h now? Thanks, Arnold - arn...@skeeve.com wrote: > Hello All. > > I've been a lurker on 9fans for many years. Today I finally did an > install - +9atom.iso.bz2 into

[9fans] first questions from a lurker

2014-03-10 Thread arnold
easy on the Plan 9 newbie who has to unlearn 30+ years of Unix habits. Thanks! Arnold

Re: [9fans] How to find or build 9pxeload?

2014-03-03 Thread arnold
> pxe doesn't know how to decompress. So, what? It's, like, stressed out *all* the time? (Sorry, couldn't resist. :-) Arnold

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-23 Thread David Arnold
http://newftp.9atom.org/other/+usbinstamd64.bz2 resolves (www vs. newftp). d On 24/12/2013, at 9:44 AM, Blake McBride wrote: > I am having trouble with that link. Is it correct? > > Thanks. > > Blake > > > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:11 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Thu Dec 19 20:54:04

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

2013-12-15 Thread David Arnold
On 24/10/2013, at 5:57 PM, Keith wrote: > Who here remembers/knows of the vision for the apple newton? The iPad > realized it when the technology was able and the time was right. Who is to > say the same couldn't be said for 9? I suspect that Plan9ers will be as disappointed as Newtonians at th

Re: [9fans] p9p mk rc help

2013-11-20 Thread arnold
> ! ~ $st ?* ^ '|' ^ * Sheesh. I'm a long time Unix type and even to *me* that looks like line noise. :-) Arnold

Re: [9fans] Purely historical question on variadic function notation

2013-10-16 Thread arnold
It came into C89 from C++, along with all the function prototype stuff, just as Joel said. I no longer have all the paper drafts from the initial ANSI C effort but I remember this quite well. Arnold fge...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks for the guess! > Since I could not directly fin

Re: [9fans] how to output NUL byte from awk?

2013-09-17 Thread arnold
) gawk 'BEGIN { printf("\0") }' "No arbitrary limits" in action. :-) Arnold

[9fans] Any Israeli Plan 9 users?

2013-09-01 Thread arnold
So, in the same spirit as the earlier mail... Are there any Plan 9 users in Israel? I live near Modi'in and work in Jerusalem, so those are the most convenient areas for me but other travel in order to meet is not unreasonable. Much thanks, Arnold (Aharon) Robbins

Re: [9fans] is lsub web server up?

2013-06-09 Thread arnold
onnection refused > > sorts of errors from http://lsub.org. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Arnold > I got the paper. Much thanks! Arnold

[9fans] is lsub web server up?

2013-06-08 Thread arnold
Hi. I tried to get the 9pix paper but am getting connection refused sorts of errors from http://lsub.org. Thanks, Arnold

Re: [9fans] test(1) -older bug?

2013-06-03 Thread arnold
Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > And the consequences of not freeing a few bytes of memory, in a command > which will exit a few microseconds later, would be ... ? The Code Correctness Police come and collect you and force you to program on Windows... :-) Arnold

Re: [9fans] [GSOC 2013] Implement plan9 commands in Go, Goblin

2013-04-29 Thread arnold
on and test suites. Is there even a yacc equivalent from Go? That might be a reasonable project - add Go support to Berkely Yacc, Plan 9 Yacc, or Bison. Or larger in scale, to implement Yacc itself in Go. Arnold

Re: [9fans] Acme button 1 working like button 3

2013-04-10 Thread arnold
o matter how obsessive a coder you are, > you can get even less sleep and not code a wink. > > - erik And be in an even more elevated state of happiness. Arnold

[9fans] doing a native awk port (was Re: Bug in print(2) g verb)

2013-03-03 Thread arnold
ch is availble on github: git clone git://github.com/onetrueawk/awk And also talk to Erik who did some work on bringing the Plan 9 awk into sync with BWK's a little while back. HTH, Arnold P.S. The git repo includes his test suite in the file awktest.a; it should probably be unarc

Re: [9fans] Ancient History: "Electronic Mail Without Aliases"

2013-02-26 Thread arnold
ve to be: Small Is Beautiful Arnold

[9fans] off topic: lego runs linux

2013-01-16 Thread arnold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAQ3g-iW-Ow

Re: [9fans] big endian plan 9 machine?

2013-01-13 Thread David Arnold
On 13/01/2013, at 2:21 PM, John Floren wrote: > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: Blue Gene >>> >>> hard to fit in the basement. >> >> How about an ipengine (mpc823)? I've got one gathering dust here. > > I caution against working on any hardware

Re: [9fans] ape/errno.h

2012-12-18 Thread arnold
ccounts to keep the IEEE lawyers happy. If you're happy with HTML: http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/ (Google for "POSIX 2008 base definitions"). HTH, Arnold

Re: [9fans] ape/errno.h

2012-12-18 Thread arnold
n't be too much different (we hope! :-). HTH, Arnold

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