Re: [9fans] RPi in QEMU

2023-09-01 Thread fgergo
On 9/1/23, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > don.bai...@gmail.com: ... >> Thanks for responding and adding some patches. I am trying to follow >> along >> to make it work, if you don't mind a bit of back and forth :-) > > Maybe do the back & forth off list, unless anyone else is interest

Re: [9fans] Error when running >spell

2023-01-14 Thread fgergo
"Sh":fail:'./spell.dis' file does not exist : I just installed the latest version and I can't reproduce this, sorry. sh: rot13: './rot13' file does not exist : rot13 needs to be installed (iiuc hxtools on debian) or a rot13 script in your path. ; cat rot13 #!/bin/sh tr 'A-Za-z' 'N-ZA-Mn-za-m' On

Re: [9fans] Error when running >spell

2023-01-13 Thread fgergo
If ""Sh":fail:'./spell.dis' file does not exist" is your main issue and assuming you are probably using acme-sac or acme in inferno, you'll want to have a look at os(1) in inferno. On 1/13/23, revr...@mweb.co.za wrote: > I successfully installed plan9port on Ubuntu. > > It created an acme-home

[9fans] B name origin?

2022-12-12 Thread fgergo
Does anybody know where the name B (b/B in sam) comes from? thanks, Gergely Födémesi -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T58a1624699c375ce-Mc952bba792aa7edc175b5488 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/sub

Re: [9fans] spec in plan9port?

2022-09-06 Thread fgergo
On 9/6/22, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > Quoth fge...@gmail.com: >> Sure, thanks for clarifying! Where else is or could be the passing of >> spec to Tattach implemented? > > mount, or whatever is doing the mounting. Hence my original question. -- 9fans: 9fan

Re: [9fans] spec in plan9port?

2022-09-06 Thread fgergo
On 9/5/22, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > Quoth fge...@gmail.com: >> On plan9 (and inferno) mount has [ spec ] to select between different >> file trees: >> https://9p.io/magic/man2html/1/bind >> ... >> mount [ option ... ] servename old [ spec ] >> ... >> "The spec argument to mount is passed in th

[9fans] spec in plan9port?

2022-09-01 Thread fgergo
On plan9 (and inferno) mount has [ spec ] to select between different file trees: https://9p.io/magic/man2html/1/bind ... mount [ option ... ] servename old [ spec ] ... "The spec argument to mount is passed in the attach(5) message to the server, and selects among different file trees served by th

Re: [9fans] 9p server to multiply 9p messages?

2022-05-30 Thread fgergo
On 5/30/22, Bakul Shah wrote: > On May 29, 2022, at 10:01 PM, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: >> >> the challenge is that 9p is stateful, so all servers must >> replay the same messages in the same order; this means that >> if one of the replicas fails or returns a result that is not >> the same as the

Re: [9fans] 9p server to multiply 9p messages?

2022-05-29 Thread fgergo
s/over 9p/higher than 9p/ On 5/29/22, fge...@gmail.com wrote: > As a first approximation - assuming identical namespaces - this > multiplier 9p server (9plier? multi9plier?) could be trivially(?) > useful, used with recover(4) on all connections and with an > independent synchronization mechanism

Re: [9fans] 9p server to multiply 9p messages?

2022-05-29 Thread fgergo
Thanks yes, this would be one use-case. On 5/28/22, ron minnich wrote: > not for 9p, but in 1993, when Gene Kim interned with me at the > Supercomputing Research Center, we did this: > https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Bigfoot-NFS-%3A-A-Parallel-File-Striping-NFS-Server-(-Kim/19cb61337bab7b4d

Re: [9fans] 9p server to multiply 9p messages?

2022-05-29 Thread fgergo
As a first approximation - assuming identical namespaces - this multiplier 9p server (9plier? multi9plier?) could be trivially(?) useful, used with recover(4) on all connections and with an independent synchronization mechanism, in case states would fall out of sync. Furthermore I would not rule o

[9fans] 9p server to multiply 9p messages?

2022-05-28 Thread fgergo
Has anybody considered (or maybe even implemented) a 9p server to multiply incoming 9p messages to 2 or more 9p servers? Maybe with 2 different strategies for responding to the original request? 1. respond as soon as at least 1 response from one of the 9p servers is received, 2. respond only after

Re: [9fans] recover(4) go rewrite

2021-05-12 Thread fgergo
Thanks for asking kvik! I just realised the original references could have been more direct. I added a readme listing the original version and the authors. Thank you khm, for the quick references! If you want to use the C version with plan9port, you'll need to change post9pservice(pfd[0], srv); to

[9fans] recover(4) go rewrite

2021-05-11 Thread fgergo
of recover you'll need 9pserve in your path. If you have plan9port installed, you have 9pserve. If plan9port is not used (eg. on windows, android or on unix without plan9port) you need to go get github.com/fhs/mux9p/cmd/9pserve and put 9pserve executable in your path. To install recover it'

Re: [9fans] 9p.zone: Public 9P Registry Services

2021-01-27 Thread fgergo
On 1/27/21, fge...@gmail.com wrote: > On 1/25/21, sirjofri+ml-9f...@sirjofri.de > wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> we haven't announced it here, I believe, so here it is: >> >> 9p.zone is a public registry service for 9p services, OS agnostic. >> This means, it works for Plan 9, 9front, inferno, basica

Re: [9fans] 9p.zone: Public 9P Registry Services

2021-01-27 Thread fgergo
On 1/25/21, sirjofri+ml-9f...@sirjofri.de wrote: > Hello all, > > we haven't announced it here, I believe, so here it is: > > 9p.zone is a public registry service for 9p services, OS agnostic. > This means, it works for Plan 9, 9front, inferno, basically all 9p > capable systems can use the regist

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 earlier versions

2020-08-11 Thread fgergo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs#License "Starting with the release of Fourth edition on April 2002,[12] the full source code of Plan 9 from Bell Labs is freely available under Lucent Public License 1.02, which is considered to be an open-source license..." iirc first and third

[9fans] almost persistent 9p connections? (recover {listennet, listensrv} in go or original in C, or maybe aan(8))

2020-07-13 Thread fgergo
Does anybody have a go reimplementation of recover? The only reference I've found is this: https://plan9.io/sources/contrib/rsc/recover/recover.pdf If the original C version is somewhere available, I'd be happy to hear as well. aan(8) in go would be a nice as well, if you have anything like that,

Re: [9fans] u9fs in go?

2020-07-12 Thread fgergo
On 7/13/20, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Did anybody try to reimplement u9fs in go? >> If not yet, which 9p go package would you recommend to use? >> (I don't need any authentication only 9p.) > > There is a multitude of 9P implementations in Go. > > For example, this one, which

[9fans] u9fs in go?

2020-07-12 Thread fgergo
Did anybody try to reimplement u9fs in go? If not yet, which 9p go package would you recommend to use? (I don't need any authentication only 9p.) thanks! -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tea875067b53dce5f-M7b748986be54c54d1

Re: [9fans] Plan9 complete source for raspberry pi

2020-03-19 Thread fgergo
Hm, I just realized you did not ask about plan9port but about the plan9 port. Sorry for the confusion. On 3/19/20, fge...@gmail.com wrote: > It's the same for all architectures and operating systems. > Just follow instructions on the plan9port page: > https://9fans.github.io/plan9port/ > > If tha

Re: [9fans] Plan9 complete source for raspberry pi

2020-03-19 Thread fgergo
It's the same for all architectures and operating systems. Just follow instructions on the plan9port page: https://9fans.github.io/plan9port/ If that fails, please share a literal transcript of your shell interaction. On 3/19/20, borkar.praka...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > How do i clone the com

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-21 Thread fgergo
On 11/21/19, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 08:49:32 +0100 fge...@gmail.com wrote: > fge...@gmail.com writes: >> On 11/21/19, fge...@gmail.com wrote: >> > On 11/21/19, arn...@skeeve.com wrote: >> >> "Ethan Gardener" wrote: >> >> >> >>> > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am aski

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-20 Thread fgergo
On 11/21/19, fge...@gmail.com wrote: > On 11/21/19, arn...@skeeve.com wrote: >> "Ethan Gardener" wrote: >> >>> > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here. >>> >>> it's called plan9port-dev and it's on google groups: >>> >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/plan9port-dev >>

Re: [9fans] plan9port on osx

2019-11-20 Thread fgergo
On 11/21/19, arn...@skeeve.com wrote: > "Ethan Gardener" wrote: > >> > i cannot find a plan9port maillist, so i am asking here. >> >> it's called plan9port-dev and it's on google groups: >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/plan9port-dev > > Clicking on the link tells me I don't have acc

Re: [9fans] What's the fastest way to input command in Acme?

2018-05-10 Thread fgergo
The tour of the acme editor should help answer a lot of your questions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP1xVpMPn8M On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 8:15 AM 刘宇宝 wrote: > [[ I got perfect answers to my original questions about undo, the another questions is probably neglected, so I split another thread.

Re: [9fans] goodbye cruel world

2018-01-10 Thread fgergo
mark v shaney On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Peter Hull wrote: > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:21 PM, Jules Merit > wrote: > I suppose it's one of those "If you have to ask..." things but can > anyone explain (any of) Jules Merit's posts for me? > Cheers, > Pete >

Re: [9fans] Change of plan9 partition size

2017-10-12 Thread fgergo
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Pavel Klinkovský wrote: >> 9pi has about 1,7GB plan9 partition size. >> On my 8GB SD card the rest is unused... > > > Maybe it would be wise to use Venti on that unsed space... ;) > > Pavel > If you don't have a venti server somewhere near your pi yet, then defin

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

2016-09-01 Thread fgergo
"the internet has a long memory" for the record: for the last ~20 years on 9fans and during the few iwp9s I could join, I've always received helpful answers and insights. Thanks to everybody who could help! (Richard, Skip, Charles, Brucee, Brantley too many to list.) I plan to stay for the next 20.

Re: [9fans] ftpfs shows empty /n/ftp after login

2015-06-26 Thread fgergo
thanks, to Charles , u9fs is still always an option for me. On Jun 26, 2015 11:43 AM, "Nils M Holm" wrote: > On 2015-06-26T01:52:25-0700, Bakul Shah wrote: > > I just tried this on an old qemu plan9 image. I tried connecting > > to the hosts' external address, not 10.0.2.2 and it all worked. > >

Re: [9fans] Kabini or Raspberry Pi?

2014-07-04 Thread fgergo
Hi Kenji, a comparison page: http://downloads.element14.com/raspberryPi1.html Both "model A" and "model B" work. You most probably want to have "model B". For details: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/70308 best, Gergő On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:56 AM, wrote: >> I have no pi h

[9fans] /n convention history?

2014-01-13 Thread fgergo
f n things?) thanks, fgergo

[9fans] push.sh inspired by the dump file system

2013-10-25 Thread fgergo
I usually use linux and windows. I always liked the functionality of the dump file system and venti, but I did not want to maintain anything for the backup of my miscellaneous private files. About a year ago I wrote push.sh. I use it to simply push file trees between different non-plan9 machines. p

Re: [9fans] Purely historical question on variadic function notation

2013-10-16 Thread fgergo
I think that's a big help. Thank you Joel and Arnold! Gergő On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:22 AM, wrote: > It came into C89 from C++, along with all the function prototype stuff, > just as Joel said. > > I no longer have all the paper drafts from the initial ANSI C effort > but I remember this quite

Re: [9fans] Purely historical question on variadic function notation

2013-10-15 Thread fgergo
Thanks for the guess! Since I could not directly find this information, at the moment I am trying to find when ... was introduced. I hope to find a hint during this search. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Joel C. Salomon wrote: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Gergő Födémesi wrote: >> Who inv

[9fans] Purely historical question on variadic function notation

2013-10-14 Thread fgergo
Who invented ... notation in c? I'll appreciate any hints. thanks, Gergő

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread fgergo
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > 2013/7/2 Rob Pike : > > I may be the only person in the world who works like this, and is > > therefore happy to move not one but two hands off the keyboard to use > > 2-d input devices. > why one would use two hands with the trackpad no ch

Re: [9fans] iwp9 Madrid accomodation

2011-08-30 Thread fgergo
I am sorry if my email sounded unthankful, it was not meant to sound like that. On the contrary, thank you for all the effort to all organizers! Gorka, thanks for the hotels! I probably should have phrased the question more directly: Wednesday, which pub?

[9fans] iwp9 Madrid accomodation

2011-08-30 Thread fgergo
Earlier if you clicked Accomodation on iwp9.org you had found a hotel, where most probably you could have found other 9fans during iwp9. For the upcoming event you'll only find a hint, hence this: If you feel a desperate inner drive to share where you'll probably stay, you can do that here: https

Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk

2010-10-31 Thread fgergo
Or not. Sorry for the noise. On 10/31/10, fge...@gmail.com wrote: > I believe livelock can happen. > > On 10/31/10, Bruce Ellis wrote: >> oh shut up. learn. >> >> you want Morgan's phone number? >> >> brucee >> >> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 7:52 PM, roger peppe wrote: >>> if you hate misinformatio

Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk

2010-10-31 Thread fgergo
I believe livelock can happen. On 10/31/10, Bruce Ellis wrote: > oh shut up. learn. > > you want Morgan's phone number? > > brucee > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 7:52 PM, roger peppe wrote: >> if you hate misinformation, why not provide some correct information to >> counter it? i'd hazard a guess

Re: [9fans] sheeva

2010-09-25 Thread fgergo
You are probably interested in plan9 related issues, but you might be interested in this as well: if you run cpu intensive stuff, the plug will get hot. My plug practically killed 1 sd card and almost fried another one as well. I have found several complaints on this issue. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at

Re: [9fans] P9p on Fedora 12

2010-08-29 Thread fgergo
I haven't found any resolution to Pavel's original problem, hence this email. Same problem here: x86, FC12: INSTALL went smooth (no errors in install.log), but all of the devdraw based programs stopped with the reported error. After installing the packages libX11-devel, libXt-devel and libXext-de

[9fans] pc with floppy but without cd/dvd

2009-07-26 Thread fgergo
Of course everybody is entitled to his opinion, though geoff wrote an implicit question and if nobody answers, I suggest to kill this thread and accept what geoff did. If you peek in the archives on unused mechanisms, you can see that geoff's step makes the most sense in the 9fans context. Probably

[9fans] typed sh (was: what features would you like in a shell?)

2009-04-02 Thread fgergo
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:41 PM, John Stalker wrote: > What I most often miss in shell programming is a proper type system. You should have a look at alphabet. It is cool. http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/man/1/sh-alphabet.html

[9fans] inferno runs on n770 and n800/n810 (was: Re: How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?)

2008-12-18 Thread fgergo
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Anthony Sorace wrote: > i like nokia's line, and would love to see a port of Plan 9 (or > Inferno) to the 770 or N800 (there's an even newer one, but i forget > the model off hand and don't own one of those). Inferno works perfectly on the n770 and probably on th

[9fans] Eris keen on anything

2008-09-12 Thread fgergo
Would you please move?