[9fans] (no subject)

2011-11-22 Thread Steve Simon
Subject factotum auth for commodity web browsers? Hi, I have a distant memory of somone talking about adding factotum support to mozilla or firefox, but I can nolonger fine a reference - did I imagine it? Is there such a thing for p9p perhaps? -Steve

Re: [9fans] Forks of Plan 9 (Was: 9vx instability)

2011-11-25 Thread Steve Simon
server) is not great. Its enough to drag my 3.5Ghz P4 to its knees just browsing around! Having said this there avenues for optimisation, but I need to measure and not guuess (no matter how tempting :-) where the problems lie. -Steve

[9fans] devfs mirroring

2011-12-02 Thread Steve Simon
- do you use mirroring or is everyone using coraid raid servers now? -Steve

Re: [9fans] troff book

2011-12-02 Thread Steve Simon
By far the best books on troff (IMHO) are the pair by Gehani and Lally, Document Formatting and Typesetting on the Unix system, volume 1 and 2. They are out of print but available from alibris.com and somtimes on amazon new & used. -Steve

Re: [9fans] go v. mk

2011-12-02 Thread Steve Simon
> It can't be that > hard to parse out DIR= from there and turn it into a native mkfile. Ok, its not that simple but perhaps somthing along the lines of /sys/src/cmd/mk/mkconv could help? -Steve

[9fans] mkmk

2011-12-05 Thread Steve Simon
version of the code to plan9. Examples here: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/steve/root/sys/src/cmd/mkmk/9port/ The lack of success came when trying to port bigger projects like the Apache portable runtime, or up to date ghostscript. -Steve

Re: [9fans] troff book

2011-12-12 Thread Steve Simon
is... not what I am used to from using windows apps. I am not saying its bad its just different and needs a mental switch to use it. It was Ok, but a little painful for the few drawings I needed, I'am sure it would get easier if I used it more. -Steve

Re: [9fans] i can't write to my disk

2011-12-15 Thread Steve Simon
:-). -Steve

Re: [9fans] fun with replica and pull

2011-12-20 Thread Steve Simon
ite plan9 editor, and modify it into a command line to fetch the modified files. -Steve

[9fans] ssh-agent

2011-12-20 Thread Steve Simon
I ported Russ's ssh agent to plan9 for use with the native, and linuxemu openssh implementations. The program is a protocol converter parsing requests from openssh and extracting the keys from factotum as requited. Code in /n/sources/contrib/steve/ssh-agent.tgz -Steve

Re: [9fans] /ape/libcrypto.a ??none??: /386/lib/ape/libssl.a: first

2011-12-23 Thread Steve Simon
was done, but openssl is fine. try cd /sys/src/ape/lib/openssl; mk nuke; mk ; mk clean -Steve

Re: [9fans] RAID box with plan9 filesystem

2011-12-24 Thread Steve Simon
DROMs. -Steve

Re: [9fans] ssh-agent

2011-12-27 Thread Steve Simon
Not sure I understand, this is native plan9 not p9p. to the best of my knowledge there is only one true factotum on plan9. Sufice to say it works on the labs distribution. -Steve

Re: [9fans] ssh-agent

2011-12-27 Thread Steve Simon
Ah, sorry, yes, new factotum. too much christmas cheer. -Steve

Re: [9fans] /ape/libcrypto.a ??none??: /386/lib/ape/libssl.a: first

2012-01-03 Thread Steve Simon
=-c --- > CFLAGS=-c -D_C99_SNPRINTF_EXTENSION -D_POSIX_SOURCE -Steve

Re: [9fans] /ape/libcrypto.a ??none??: /386/lib/ape/libssl.a first entry not symbol header too many errors pcc: 8l: 8l 1453: error

2012-01-03 Thread Steve Simon
> ??none??: cannot open file: /386/lib/ape/libz.a I think if you rebuild /sys/src/ape/lib/z as described in my previous email this should go away. -Steve

Re: [9fans] ramfs, fossil, venti etc.

2012-01-04 Thread Steve Simon
efreshed from a venti snapshot. Having had some disk failures in the past I built my server with two mirrored disks and fs(3) config in seperate partitions for Mirrored, A-only and B-only. Thus when one disk fails I can quickly reboot onto the working disk. -Steve

Re: [9fans] venti and "contrib": RFC

2012-01-05 Thread Steve Simon
y and consists only of a pointer to the root of the dump in venti; all reads are then satisfied from venti alone, until some data is written. -Steve

Re: [9fans] venti backup

2012-01-17 Thread Steve Simon
> So it seems sufficient to backup my arenas, am I > right? Yes, exactly, I haev done this several times. It might take a few hours and some studying of manuals but the arenas are all you need. -Steve

[9fans] xz compression?

2015-01-13 Thread Steve Simon
Anyone ported the xz compressor/decompressor which is gaining traction these days? -Steve

[9fans] simple cgi and POST for plan9?

2015-01-22 Thread Steve Simon
works... Thanks, -Steve

Re: [9fans] simple cgi and POST for plan9?

2015-01-23 Thread Steve Simon
Thanks Skip, thats great. -Steve

[9fans] endianess and 3rd party libraries

2015-01-29 Thread Steve Simon
my hair shirt... -Steve

[9fans] raspberry pi & ethernet performance

2015-02-01 Thread Steve Simon
A while back there was some discussion of the ether performance of the PI under plan9 being significantly poorer than under linux. Did anyone get anywhere looking at this issue? -Steve

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-02 Thread Steve Simon
seem to be quite a few these days. -Steve

[9fans] usb/disk and micro SD cards.

2015-02-05 Thread Steve Simon
/dev/usb/ep7.0 8.out: devmain: disk: endpoints not found 8.out: no unhandled devices found The type of the card (ep->type) is 0 (Control) rather than 2 (Bulk) by I don't know how this can happen. Windows is happy so the cards are not sick. anyone any ideas? -Steve

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-05 Thread Steve Simon
I am fairly sure there was multicore support in the MIPS kernels for the big challange machines they had at the labs. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Standalone *nix port of sam

2015-02-06 Thread Steve Simon
not sure if the X11 port ever did. There4 was also a chording patch to make cut and paste work like acme, but my fingers have never been agile enough to do this reliably, so its of less# interest to me. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

2015-02-06 Thread Steve Simon
See /n/sources/patch/maybe/usb-short-desc That works a treat, thanks Cinap, Richard, and Erik. -Steve

Re: [9fans] r-pi usbotg error

2015-02-18 Thread Steve Simon
I am on my Pi terminal now. I have a Dell KB1421 keyboard and an IBM M-U0013-0 (3 button optical) mouse. -Steve

[9fans] announce radio HLS and drawterm question

2015-02-25 Thread Steve Simon
streams in favour of HLS last week. Drawterm: Has anyone written an audio driver for OSX so I can debug my radio app on my mac? Thanks, -Steve

Re: [9fans] once more: drawterm osx-x11 on x86-64

2015-03-02 Thread Steve Simon
x3 $y3 logwin -- This is $home/bin/rc -- #!/bin/rc fortune calendar -y news echo exec rc -i /logwin started by the above -- -Steve

[9fans] leak(1)

2015-03-06 Thread Steve Simon
I am getting an error from leak(1): :2: (error) mainmem used but not set Anyone seen such, understand, or even know where its coming from? -Steve

Re: [9fans] ken cc for linux

2015-03-11 Thread Steve Simon
e gawk code. -Steve

[9fans] RIP

2015-03-24 Thread Steve Simon
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/gregory-walcott-dies-the-blameless-actor-who-couldnt-shake-off-being-a-part-of-the-worst-movie-ever-10128828.html?icn=puff-9 -Steve

Re: [9fans] p9p mouse problem

2015-03-31 Thread Steve Simon
? Anyway, perhaps your keyboard is the problem, not sending a key-up event when you release the shift key somtimes? Just a guess. -Steve

[9fans] acid -k

2015-03-31 Thread Steve Simon
hi, Trying to debug a driver using acid. none of the mkfiles in /sys/src/9 contain rules to make .acid files, why? Does noone use acid -k -l kernel ? is there a way to generate these files I have missed? -Steve (confused of Winchester).

[9fans] small VFD display

2015-05-06 Thread Steve Simon
phics subsystem in a stand alone app rather than involving the kernel? I think I can but are there any examples of this? Though this sounds nice, is it worth the hassle of doing this? Any opinions? -Steve

Re: [9fans] small VFD display

2015-05-06 Thread Steve Simon
box (without the overhead of X11, vnc, or remote desktop). Thats is a lot more work and I will probably never manage it. I an toying with the idea of using a raspberry pi2 running Windows 10 as a cheap, low power "browser co-processor". -Steve

Re: [9fans] fossil+venti performance question

2015-05-08 Thread Steve Simon
I confirm - my old performance is back. Thanks very much David. -Steve

[9fans] plan9 on windows

2015-06-09 Thread Steve Simon
Its looking like I may be sintting in fronto of windows for a while Anyone suggest a version of sam, B, and 9term which works on win64? I don't think I need any of the other command line tools as I have them already. -Steve

Re: [9fans] inequality testing in shell

2015-06-14 Thread Steve Simon
It would be easy to extend test to add these features, you could submit a patch if you feel strongly. To be honest I have never had the need for inequalaties, perhaps I have been lucky. -Steve

Re: [9fans] inequality testing in shell

2015-06-14 Thread Steve Simon
> Oops :) > Sorry, I didn't notice that there under the -eq entry. ditto :-( As I said, never used em. -Steve

[9fans] drawterm source?

2015-06-14 Thread Steve Simon
Where is the one true source of drawterm for windows? /sys/src/cmd/unix/drawterm ? swtch.com? elsewhere? -Steve

Re: [9fans] drawterm source?

2015-06-17 Thread Steve Simon
lan9 any more. Anyone looked at this, or have a version which performs both of these features? Thanks, -Steve

Re: [9fans] drawterm source?

2015-06-18 Thread Steve Simon
> Are there even enough plan 9 users on earth to generate a "stream" with > a current strong enough to swim against? Awww, there are enough of us to make a conga surely... -Steve

[9fans] vmware and monitor setup

2015-06-18 Thread Steve Simon
I have got virtualbox to work but the company seems to prefer vmware -Steve

Re: [9fans] Plan9 DNS server

2015-06-22 Thread Steve Simon
or me. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Plan9 DNS server

2015-06-22 Thread Steve Simon
Not sure what checking you need, you can check your NDB was parsed as you suspected by running zonefresh against it and comparing the results with your ndb - zonefresh is in my contrib. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Darksky

2015-06-25 Thread Steve Simon
In case it is of interest I have a json parser in the form of: /n/sources/contrib/steve/libjson.tbz there is also /n/sources/contrib/steve/json.cmds.tbz Which is just jb - a beautifier ☺ Finally, jirafs - which gives filesystem access to a Jira fault tracking database. It is

Re: [9fans] ftpfs shows empty /n/ftp after login

2015-06-25 Thread Steve Simon
d/non-existant. -Steve

Re: [9fans] p9p's stats

2015-06-26 Thread Steve Simon
t was very helpful to be able to put the system load in context. I have used this code extensively but not widely - there may be portability issues I have missed. As usual feel free to feed back fixes and extensions. -Steve

[9fans] two ethernet in a raspberry pi.

2015-06-30 Thread Steve Simon
I need a small computer to bridge two networks. I thought of a raspberry pi with a usb ethernet dongle. Anyone tried this? Any suggestions of known working usb ethernet dongles? -Steve

Re: [9fans] two ethernet in a raspberry pi.

2015-06-30 Thread Steve Simon
und :-) -Steve

[9fans] rsc's libtask on embedded

2015-07-09 Thread Steve Simon
Anyone stripped rsc's libtask for use on a bare metal embedded system, I'am about to do it but if somone already has I could steal it. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Gawk in 9front-ports

2015-07-09 Thread Steve Simon
FWIW: fgb did a stirling script called config which sets up some environment and runs configure under ape. It doesn't always work but often gets close to generating a config.h as linux intended. -Steve

Re: [9fans] rsc's libtask on embedded

2015-07-09 Thread Steve Simon
it. I have no need for the file or network modules but those are easily removed. I don't have the context calls but I do have setjmp/longjmp so that is what I am trying to use. I will shout if it works out. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Intel NUCs and Plan 9?

2015-07-09 Thread Steve Simon
I have been very very impressed with the performance of the pi2, really quite a usable machine - though it is still a terminal. -Steve

[9fans] usb disk - no partitions?

2015-07-21 Thread Steve Simon
ctl cherry% ls /dev/sdU0.0/ /dev/sdU0.0/ctl /dev/sdU0.0/data /dev/sdU0.0/raw -Steve

[9fans] USB serial + raspberry PI

2015-07-22 Thread Steve Simon
int-edid=��d0 edid=finishe�d trys=X8 stat �e=idle*�, err=")no erro9r Anyone have a EIA dongle that is known to work with the PI? anyone any ideas what might be wrong? -Steve

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-11 Thread Steve Simon
noises with a pi2 which I will dig into shortly. I think the pi is a wonderful terminal, the only app which would really benefit from Gbit ether is Remote Desktop (imho) I would love a similar machine with Gbit ether and 2 or 3 sata 3s to replace my ageing file server. -Steve > On 6 Aug 2

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-14 Thread Steve Simon
I have tried to email BLS but fear I am being spam filtered... you there? -Steve > On 12 Aug 2015, at 23:27, Brian L. Stuart wrote: > >> On Wed, 8/12/15, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote: >> the gpio pins don't seem accessible through a filesystem a

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

2015-08-14 Thread Steve Simon
Vncserv must do something similar, maybe that is worth looking at. I went down a similar route but am planning to just address the display as a different type of device, rather than as a plan9 display. Your progress is very impressive, my project stalled - I must get back to it. -Steve On 15

[9fans] tls and iphones and ios9 (sigh)

2015-09-17 Thread Steve Simon
somone might be looking at modifying libsec. -Steve

Re: [9fans] tls and iphones and ios9 (sigh)

2015-09-18 Thread Steve Simon
pop3s are probably similarly broken. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Replacement for find

2015-09-30 Thread Steve Simon
e file I am interested in in the list and plumb it, I guess its just personal taste. Plan9 is different and somtimes it needs a different approach. -Steve

Re: [9fans] off topic - a good Git reference

2015-09-30 Thread Steve Simon
> How can it be a secret 'society' if there's just one member for each secret > society? That, my good man, is the biggest secret of all! ☺ -Steve

Re: [9fans] off topic - a good Git reference

2015-10-02 Thread Steve Simon
even get some cycles to help. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Frogs?

2015-10-05 Thread Steve Simon
e the shell itself. -Steve > On 5 Oct 2015, at 17:54, Nick Owens wrote: > > http://code.9front.org/hg/plan9front/file/tip/sys/src/9/port/chan.c?style=gitweb#l1637 > >> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Kare Nuorteva wrote: >> >> >> Hello, >> >>

Re: [9fans] Web Gardens

2015-10-12 Thread Steve Simon
I think I once saw one at the Chelsea flower show, Designed and produced by a team of 37 spiders... -Steve > On 12 Oct 2015, at 10:49, Staven wrote: > > I thought a web garden was a hobbyist version of a server farm. >

[9fans] off topic - free signed SSL/TLS certs

2015-11-05 Thread Steve Simon
Anyone any experience of a provider of free SSL/TLS certificates they would reccomend? I appologise if my terminology is imperfect, I am new to this game. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Undefined Behaviour in C

2015-11-26 Thread Steve Simon
ad at address zero. -Steve > On 26 Nov 2015, at 17:48, Bakul Shah wrote: > > Good points! Though 0 was a valid address on pdp11, right?

Re: [9fans] Peter Bosch's TV software

2015-12-02 Thread Steve Simon
I may have the code, I might even have a haupage card somewhere. The card had an rf tuner and a composite (maybe y/c) input and as such is more than a little dated in these Meg 2/4 broadcast days (in the uk at least). -Steve > On 2 Dec 2015, at 17:35, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: > >

Re: [9fans] Migration of vac score to fossil

2015-12-17 Thread Steve Simon
with each venti score you have from your old vac(1)s. have a look at the fossil create command. -Steve > On 17 Dec 2015, at 17:05, Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen > wrote: > > I have a file server running Linux at home, with a normal ext3 file system > and a plan9port venti. I use thi

Re: [9fans] contrib/install

2015-12-20 Thread Steve Simon
YI, i have never used OpenSSL on plan9, there is a an sslv2 compliant client an server thanks to cor aid and Brian Stuart. -Steve > On 20 Dec 2015, at 19:32, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote: > > what is the value of the 'path' environment variable? (i.e. echo

Re: [9fans] bug or feature ? --- ip/ping -6

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Simon
page once. Having said this, I understand that tradition is also a strong guiding principal. -Steve > On 30 Dec 2015, at 12:48, arisawa wrote: > > hello, > > is the following output of ping reasonable enough? > > > io% 6.ping -an3 hebe > sending 3 64 byte message

Re: [9fans] bug or feature ? --- ip/ping -6

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Simon
I would display the IP address once only, rather on every line; as it is a common factor. -Steve > On 30 Dec 2015, at 15:26, Kurt H Maier wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 03:05:33PM +, Steve Simon wrote: >> If I where redesigning ping I wouldn't repeat any

Re: [9fans] bug or feature ? --- ip/ping -6

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Simon
all packet storms. Maybe apocryphal, but a nice story none the less. -Steve

[9fans] bonjour mDNS?

2016-01-01 Thread Steve Simon
file server. -Steve

Re: [9fans] bonjour mDNS?

2016-01-02 Thread Steve Simon
have two request files, rather than one request file which offers the service of moth files. I am not sure I have explained this very well, I hope you understand. -Steve > On 2 Jan 2016, at 05:17, Marc Boschma wrote: > > Still getting my head around Plan9 but wouldn’t mounting the un

[9fans] mDNS

2016-01-02 Thread Steve Simon
/ndb/local, just a static spec. my target is porting shairport, and maybe Dnla at a later date. -Steve > On 2 Jan 2016, at 03:42, erik quanstrom wrote: > >> On Fri Jan 1 19:32:25 PST 2016, m...@boschma.cx wrote: >> >>> On 2 Jan 2016, at 7:05 am, Steve Simon wrote:

[9fans] smtpd in modern times.

2016-02-07 Thread Steve Simon
plier (google?) Does 9front support tls1.2 now? use facebook instead of email (joke). Other... -Steve (hoping replies don't bounce)

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-31 Thread Steve Simon
😀 > On 31 Mar 2016, at 03:09, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > > > cd /n/facebook > > cd / > unmount /n/facebook > rm -fr /sys/src/cmd/facebook* /*/bin/facebookfs

Re: [9fans] problem with acme on 9front

2016-05-20 Thread Steve Simon
edited from Sam? maybe the wiki is outmoded these days? -Steve

Re: [9fans] More about /dev/draw

2016-05-28 Thread Steve Simon
worth remembering that hdmi and DVI are equivalent in terms of what is needed for a computer monitor. hence hdmi to DVI adopters are very cheap. -Steve > On 28 May 2016, at 18:49, Dave MacFarlane wrote: > > That's exactly what I'm doing. I don't have a monitor wit

Re: [9fans] More about /dev/draw

2016-05-28 Thread Steve Simon
broken too which is a continuous source of guilt to me - I will fix that one day. -Steve > On 29 May 2016, at 06:40, jfmxl wrote: > > I see an image at bell labs for the raspberry pi. > http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/miller/9pi.img.gz > > I see that there are Raspb

Re: [9fans] Any demand for a supported Windows version of p9port?

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Simon
of the graphics code that 9pf has, so no native windows sam; though I have no need of it in my environment. This is all available if anyone wants it. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

2016-08-22 Thread Steve Simon
it has been very quiet, but I am still here. 9front is more active these days. -Steve > On 23 Aug 2016, at 01:00, Adriano Verardo wrote: > > Hi, all > I don'receive from the group since June. > I've changed my subscription, opened another gmail account (mai

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

2016-08-23 Thread Steve Simon
port the svn client, but that has been ongoing for years. -Steve

Re: [9fans] vmware shared folders

2016-08-27 Thread Steve Simon
enough time had passed to release it. VMware has changed over the years and the plan9 code needs to be updated. Steve > On 27 Aug 2016, at 05:58, Adriano Verardo wrote: > > Skip Tavakkolian wrote: >> from what I've read, it seem like the VMWare workstation should honor the

Re: [9fans] vmware shared folders

2016-08-28 Thread Steve Simon
next week I will help, I wrote CICS so I should be able to sort it out. I am on holiday at the moment so I cannot do much now but sympathise. -Steve On 28 Aug 2016, at 09:16, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote: >> * boxB doesn't see no boxA shared folders. > &

Re: [9fans] Musings on Interfaces

2016-09-02 Thread Steve Simon
guys may have already done this... I think it is just habit but I find Sam so comfortable I just resist change. -Steve > On 1 Sep 2016, at 23:56, Winston Kodogo wrote: > > Thanks to Brantley for his thoughtful musings. Me, I love many things about > Sam, but I just can't use

Re: [9fans] Linker and duplicate symbols

2016-09-02 Thread Steve Simon
delete both files which contain the clock call (for libc use "ar d") then run mk again and see what complains. my bet is there will be unresolved calls to clock, and something else that shouldn't be there... good luck, -Steve > On 2 Sep 2016, at 21:00, Chris McGee wrote:

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-09-30 Thread Steve Simon
I have a Pi at work and a dual atom file/cpu/auth/etc server at home. it works well, it takes a few seconds to authenticate but is quick once you are connected. I boot from the pi's flash so I don't really have a terminal but I keep almost nothing in the Pi. -Steve > On 30 Se

Re: [9fans] What does your fileserver consist of?

2016-10-12 Thread Steve Simon
. -Steve > On 12 Oct 2016, at 16:31, California Electric > wrote: > > Jim, > > There are other low cost alternatives than an rpi. Higher kilowatt-hour cost > for sure than an rpi, but cheap... > > My current 32bit bell labs distro file server is a Lenovo (IBM) m58p s

[9fans] libtask

2016-10-13 Thread Steve Simon
Hi all, I am using libtask on an embedded system with great success, however I would like to add remote file access to the system... 9p seems a good fit ☺ Anyone written or ported a small simple 9p library; I am after client and server but anything would be good. Thanks, -Steve

[9fans] ampl sw

2016-10-18 Thread Steve Simon
hi all, just interested, anyone looked at the sw gui front end to ampl, it is roughly a rio window (9term) for win32. most interesting with rc on the back end i would think. http://www.netlib.org/ampl/student/mswin/readme.sw -Steve

Re: [9fans] Fossil+Venti system memory requirements to be aware of?

2016-10-20 Thread Steve Simon
> On 20 Oct 2016, at 19:41, Steven Stallion wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:15 PM, wrote: >> Steven Stallion writes: >> >>> Sizing venti is also simple. >> >> I disagree with this. The best way to configure venti depends largely >> on how you plan to use it. I have multiple venti s

Re: [9fans] Fossil+Venti system memory requirements to be aware of?

2016-10-20 Thread Steve Simon
i agree absolutely with steve here, expanding venture arena by arena is easy, the ventibackup scripts show you how. even easier is to add arenas on a different disk partition to the same venti. personally i wouldn't keep music or videos in venti. they don't compress well using the

Re: [9fans] What does your fileserver consist of?

2016-10-22 Thread Steve Simon
hi, mine is the older model which is not passively cooled, a fan is needed (not to hand so i have no part numbers). it has a 40mm cpu fan but that is all. the fan died (got very noisy) and i replaced it but that was the only unreliable part of the server. -steve > On 22 Oct 2016, at 22

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