Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-18 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 15:36:09 EDT erik quanstrom wrote: > On Fri Jul 18 12:51:49 EDT 2014, 23h...@gmail.com wrote: > > > perhaps high-efficiency wall warts could make up much of the difference. > > > picked at random (first link) ... > > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-AC-10U-Micro-USB-Efficien

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-18 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Jul 18 12:51:49 EDT 2014, 23h...@gmail.com wrote: > > perhaps high-efficiency wall warts could make up much of the difference. > > picked at random (first link) ... > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-AC-10U-Micro-USB-Efficiency-Charger/dp/B00DP0TQLG > > > > Given that the rpi has some weir

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-18 Thread hiro
> perhaps high-efficiency wall warts could make up much of the difference. > picked at random (first link) ... > > http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-AC-10U-Micro-USB-Efficiency-Charger/dp/B00DP0TQLG > Given that the rpi has some weird power issues and without specification of the amperage of the charger

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-17 Thread cam
>> That was in an office environment. At home I use >> fossil+(plan9port)venti running on linux-based NAS. This ends up >> working very well for me since I have resources to spare on that >> machine. This also lets me backup my arenas via CrashPlan. I use a > > I am very interested to use such a s

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-17 Thread Bakul Shah
On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 15:10:34 EDT erik quanstrom wrote: > > So long as a server returns a block corresponding to its SHA1 > > score, you (the client) don't care whether it is the same > > server you wrote the original block to or another (and you can > > always verify the returned block). This open

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> So long as a server returns a block corresponding to its SHA1 > score, you (the client) don't care whether it is the same > server you wrote the original block to or another (and you can > always verify the returned block). This opens up some but this isn't unique to content-addressed storage.

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-17 Thread Bakul Shah
On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 11:14:01 PDT Bakul Shah wrote: > > On Jul 17, 2014, at 9:56 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > i would think the same approach would work with fossil. of course one > > would need a more sophisticated solution than "just wait forever", due to > > the tcp connection. > > There

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> There is no particular reason for it to be tcp given lack of any > authentication. The beauty of CAS is that it need not even talk to the same > server but it is! even when venti and fossil are on the same machine. - erik

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-17 Thread Bakul Shah
On Jul 17, 2014, at 9:56 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > i would think the same approach would work with fossil. of course one > would need a more sophisticated solution than "just wait forever", due to > the tcp connection. There is no particular reason for it to be tcp given lack of any authen

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-17 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Steven Stallion wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan > wrote: >> I am very interested to use such a setup. Could you please add more >> about the setup? What hardware do you use for the NAS? Any scripts >> etc? > > Sure thing - I've

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> My desire is to have one file server with auth server and any > numbers of terminals which can also be used as cpu server > (for drawterm). > > In this case the smallest config is a file server and a terminal/cpu > server. > Ken's file server is standallone and has special user space. > Then can

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> I've used ReadyNAS appliances at home for almost 10 years. The current > product line is made up of low-power Atoms. I'm running a RAID5 across > 4 500G enterprise SATA drives (that should indicate how old this unit > is pretty well...) I have a wired network primarily in the rack in the > office

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-16 Thread john francis lee
Sorry, found it now. On 07/17/2014 07:31 AM, Steven Stallion wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Steven Stallion wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:15 PM, wrote: >> It just so happens I wrote a README at the time since it was >> non-obvious how to set it up correctly: > > Corrected link

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-16 Thread john francis lee
Not Found The resource could not be found. WSGI Server On 07/17/2014 07:29 AM, Steven Stallion wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:15 PM, wrote: >>> That was in an office environment. At home I use >>> fossil+(plan9port)venti running on linux-based NAS. >> >> Do you use wireless LAN? >> If so y

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-16 Thread Steven Stallion
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: > I am very interested to use such a setup. Could you please add more > about the setup? What hardware do you use for the NAS? Any scripts > etc? Sure thing - I've copied everything you should need under sources/contrib/stallion/v

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-16 Thread Bakul Shah
On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 19:29:43 CDT Steven Stallion wrote: > I absolutely would not use wireless to connect fossil > to venti (fossil does *not* cope well with the connection to venti > dropping). To deal with this you can use a local venti proxy like contrib/vsrinvas/vtrc.c. One c

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-16 Thread Steven Stallion
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Steven Stallion wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:15 PM, wrote: > It just so happens I wrote a README at the time since it was > non-obvious how to set it up correctly: Corrected link: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/102312978/FOSSIL%2BVENTI

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-16 Thread Steven Stallion
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:15 PM, wrote: >> That was in an office environment. At home I use >> fossil+(plan9port)venti running on linux-based NAS. > > Do you use wireless LAN? > If so you also need wireless bridge? > The combination of NAS and venti sounds like charm, > because the snmallest conf

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-16 Thread kokamoto
> That was in an office environment. At home I use > fossil+(plan9port)venti running on linux-based NAS. Do you use wireless LAN? If so you also need wireless bridge? The combination of NAS and venti sounds like charm, because the snmallest config is two machines. How about the power-eating of t

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-16 Thread kokamoto
> i use ken's file server for personal use. i enjoy the > fact that a cpu kernel panic does not impact the file server. My desire is to have one file server with auth server and any numbers of terminals which can also be used as cpu server (for drawterm). In this case the smallest config is a fi

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-16 Thread erik quanstrom
> kenfs works well, but you have to be well prepared to maintain it. > Invest in a decent UPS - preferably one that is supported by the > auto-shutdown (ISTR support was added for that a while back). You need > to be careful when sizing your cache - I would invest in a pair of > decent SSDs for cac

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-16 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Jul 16 13:06:16 EDT 2014, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: > kenfs(of course 64 bit)+auth server +++9pi terminal/cpu server > may be best for home use... i would go ahead and use to raspberry pi machines. having a dedicated cpu server is quite nice, and of course ken's file server is not a

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-16 Thread erik quanstrom
> Recent kenfs can be such a machine? > Please remember I plan it for my private home machine, not > any sofisticated office use. i use ken's file server for personal use. i enjoy the fact that a cpu kernel panic does not impact the file server. - erik

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-16 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Steven Stallion wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:04 PM, wrote: >>> not a fair comparsion. >> >> Yes, I'd have been more specific. >> my intension was cwfs > fossil+venti of 9atom >> fossil+venti labs. >> I did not consider kenfs itself, because I consider it sh

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-16 Thread Steven Stallion
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:04 PM, wrote: >> not a fair comparsion. > > Yes, I'd have been more specific. > my intension was cwfs > fossil+venti of 9atom >> fossil+venti labs. > I did not consider kenfs itself, because I consider it should be > file+auth+cpu server. The last is not important, but

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-15 Thread kokamoto
kenfs(of course 64 bit)+auth server +++9pi terminal/cpu server may be best for home use... Kenji

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-15 Thread kokamoto
> not a fair comparsion. Yes, I'd have been more specific. my intension was cwfs > fossil+venti of 9atom >> fossil+venti labs. I did not consider kenfs itself, because I consider it should be file+auth+cpu server. The last is not important, but for drawterm from others. Recent kenfs can be such

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-15 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Jul 15 12:31:57 EDT 2014, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: > not a fair comparsion. > > i'd look into kenfs for a fileserver only machine. might > require some time to get it to work with your hardware tho. if you have a recent 64-bit intel machine, the hardware support should be nearly the

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-15 Thread cinap_lenrek
not a fair comparsion. i'd look into kenfs for a fileserver only machine. might require some time to get it to work with your hardware tho. -- cinap

Re: [9fans] file server speed

2014-07-15 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Jul 15, 2014, at 2:13 , kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: > I've experienced three kinds of Plan9 file servers, > Lab's one, 9atom and plan9front. Can you clarify which file server, specifically, you're comparing for each of these? The Labs doesn't distribute kenfs any more, and venti+fossil i

[9fans] file server speed

2014-07-14 Thread kokamoto
I've experienced three kinds of Plan9 file servers, Lab's one, 9atom and plan9front. I felt that the file server speed is 9front > 9atom >> lab's. This is based on verious different machines for each. Is my feeling wrong, or hasve some base facts? This is to prepare the fastest file server on a