Re: [9fans] tech writer humor

2011-02-23 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:45 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > ah yes, that clears it up > >        19.4.22 >        APICID >        This register uniquely identifies an APIC in the system. This register > is not used by >        OS'es anymore and is still implemented in hardware because of FUD. So, m

Re: [9fans] tech writer humor

2011-02-22 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
> by definition, a bug in your bios doesn't change the specification, True. But a "specification" that doesn't run the same way on any two models of motherboard isn't much of one.

Re: [9fans] tech writer humor

2011-02-22 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Feb 22 15:58:12 EST 2011, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: > > the madt table or the mp tables reflect a snaphot of *all* > > the i/o apics and lapics in the system at the time when bios handed > > control over to the operating system (sic.). > > No it doesn't. That's the bug in the BIOS -- it scre

Re: [9fans] tech writer humor

2011-02-22 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
> the madt table or the mp tables reflect a snaphot of *all* > the i/o apics and lapics in the system at the time when bios handed > control over to the operating system (sic.). No it doesn't. That's the bug in the BIOS -- it screws up building the table. I have an Intel mini-ITX board sitting in

Re: [9fans] tech writer humor

2011-02-22 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Feb 22 15:48:01 EST 2011, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: > Heh. You assume a correct ACPI BIOS implementation. The worst > offenders I've seen have been Intel-designed motherboards :-P On Tue Feb 22 15:39:49 EST 2011, nemo.m...@gmail.com wrote: > apic ids can be found in the madt table, from ac

Re: [9fans] tech writer humor

2011-02-22 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
> apic ids can be found in the madt table, from acpi, iirc. Heh. You assume a correct ACPI BIOS implementation. The worst offenders I've seen have been Intel-designed motherboards :-P

Re: [9fans] tech writer humor

2011-02-22 Thread Nemo
apic ids can be found in the madt table, from acpi, iirc. On Feb 22, 2011, at 9:27 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Tue Feb 22 15:11:29 EST 2011, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: >> let me ask the question again. I know what the difference between APIC >> and ACPI means. > > i wasn't implying that you d

Re: [9fans] tech writer humor

2011-02-22 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Feb 22 15:11:29 EST 2011, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: > let me ask the question again. I know what the difference between APIC > and ACPI means. i wasn't implying that you didn't. i was saying that i sometimes think one and say the other. > Why is it that they don't think anyone needs that

Re: [9fans] tech writer humor

2011-02-22 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2011/2/22 ron minnich : > let me ask the question again. I know what the difference between APIC > and ACPI means. > > Why is it that they don't think anyone needs that register any more? > What are they suggesting people use instead? When I first read it, I thought it was funny. But then I realiz

Re: [9fans] tech writer humor

2011-02-22 Thread ron minnich
let me ask the question again. I know what the difference between APIC and ACPI means. Why is it that they don't think anyone needs that register any more? What are they suggesting people use instead? ron

Re: [9fans] tech writer humor

2011-02-22 Thread erik quanstrom
> > >        19.4.22 > > >        APICID > > >        This register uniquely identifies an APIC in the system. This > > > register is not used by > > >        OS'es anymore and is still implemented in hardware because of FUD. > > > > > > (Intel® 5520 chipset and Intel® 5500 chipset datasheet pub 3

Re: [9fans] tech writer humor

2011-02-22 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Feb 22 12:57:18 EST 2011, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:45 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > ah yes, that clears it up > > > >        19.4.22 > >        APICID > >        This register uniquely identifies an APIC in the system. This > > register is not used by > >      

Re: [9fans] tech writer humor

2011-02-22 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:45 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > ah yes, that clears it up > >        19.4.22 >        APICID >        This register uniquely identifies an APIC in the system. This register > is not used by >        OS'es anymore and is still implemented in hardware because of FUD. > > (I

[9fans] tech writer humor

2011-02-21 Thread erik quanstrom
ah yes, that clears it up 19.4.22 APICID This register uniquely identifies an APIC in the system. This register is not used by OS'es anymore and is still implemented in hardware because of FUD. (Intel® 5520 chipset and Intel® 5500 chipset datasheet pub 321328) -