Re: [abcusers] Fomula for determining a half step in MgHz...

2001-04-04 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Phil" == Phil Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Phil> Yes and no. the expression "well-tempered" comes from the Phil> title of Bach's two volumes of preludes and fugues. The Phil> well tempered klavier certainly referred to a keyboard Phil> instrument tuned in equal temp

Re: [abcusers] Fomula for determining a half step in MgHz...

2001-04-04 Thread John Walsh
In fact, the even tempered scale hasn't completely taken over. The uilleann pipes are usually tuned against the drones, and I imagine that is also true of the highland pipes and other instruments like the vielle which have drones. This means that when voicing the instrument, makers adjus

Re: [abcusers] Fomula for determining a half step in MgHz...

2001-04-04 Thread Phil Taylor
Bruce Olsen wrote: >Also it came as a surprise to me to find the Basics sound command gives >square waves at the speaker (ABC2WIN and my ABZ player). Norbeck's >AbcMus I haven't examined much, but my trials on A=440 lead to an audio >signal out as a three part sawtooth for each cycle. The ear doe

Re: [abcusers] Fomula for determining a half step in MgHz...

2001-04-04 Thread Phil Taylor
John Henckel wrote: >Is "well-tempered" and "equal-tempered" the same thing? I don't think >so. I was under the impression that equal-spaced half steps produced >bad-sounding music. The key of E is not supposed to sound exactly like the >key of C (except one third higher). That's why the comp

Re: [abcusers] Fomula for determining a half step in MgHz...

2001-04-04 Thread Tim Riley
Bruce Olson wrote: > Also it came as a surprise to me to find the Basics sound command gives > square waves at the speaker (ABC2WIN and my ABZ player). That's because it's simply a speaker connected to the output of a logic element (in the original PCs, it was a flip-flop), so all you can do is a

Re: [abcusers] Fomula for determining a half step in MgHz...

2001-04-04 Thread Bruce Olson
Phil Taylor wrote: > > Frank Nordberg wrote: > >I posted this table at abcusers a year or so ago: > > > > Pythagorean Equal > >c260.74 261.6 > >cb 278.43 277.2 > >d# 274.69 277.2 > >d293.33 293.7 > >db 313.24 311.1 > >e#

Re: [abcusers] to post or not to post?

2001-04-04 Thread John Chambers
| Confooozin. and all gray areas. I liked the "money changing hands" idea. It's not necessarily all that grey. And "money changing hands" is irrelevant to copyright. Otherwise, if I had a grudge against you, I could make copies of your stuff and give them out for free, thus ending yo

Re: [abcusers] Fomula for determining a half step in MgHz...

2001-04-04 Thread Bruce Olson
Laura Conrad wrote: > > > "John" == John Henckel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > John> Is "well-tempered" and "equal-tempered" the same thing? > > No. > > John> I don't think so. I was under the impression that > John> equal-spaced half steps produced bad-sounding music. > >

Re: [abcusers] Fomula for determining a half step in MgHz...

2001-04-04 Thread Bruce Olson
John Henckel wrote: > > Is "well-tempered" and "equal-tempered" the same thing? I don't think > so. I was under the impression that equal-spaced half steps produced > bad-sounding music. The key of E is not supposed to sound exactly like the > key of C (except one third higher). That's why th

RE: [abcusers] to post or not to post?

2001-04-04 Thread Richard L Walker
Confooozin. and all gray areas. I liked the "money changing hands" idea. I also liked the conceptual differences between a traditional tune, an arrangement of that tune and a performance of that tune -- and the copyright (or lack of) differences between them. "Richard L Walker"<[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [abcusers] Fomula for determining a half step in MgHz...

2001-04-04 Thread Laura Conrad
> "John" == John Henckel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Is "well-tempered" and "equal-tempered" the same thing? No. John> I don't think so. I was under the impression that John> equal-spaced half steps produced bad-sounding music. No, most "modern" music assumes an equal-

Re: [abcusers] Fomula for determining a half step in MgHz...

2001-04-04 Thread John Henckel
Is "well-tempered" and "equal-tempered" the same thing? I don't think so. I was under the impression that equal-spaced half steps produced bad-sounding music. The key of E is not supposed to sound exactly like the key of C (except one third higher). That's why the composer dictates the key

[abcusers] abc2ps 1.4

2001-04-04 Thread Wil Macaulay
I was messing about on my Mac last night under OS X, and I thought I'd try the latest version of abc2ps to see if it would build under the developer tools. Lo and behold, the 1.4 version has been extensively reworked, has a proper make file, built first time and now can produce .au (audio) files.

Re: [abcusers] ABC applications

2001-04-04 Thread John Chambers
Frank Nordberg writes: | John Chambers wrote: | > While you're at it, you might add my abc2ps clone to the growing | > list. | | Will do. Can I add the perl scripts at | http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/sh/ | as well? Sure. Hmmm ... That means that maybe I should look around there and thi

Re: [abcusers] to post or not to post?

2001-04-04 Thread John Chambers
Brad writes: | Thanks for the comments, all. Fear not, I have not violated any | laws since | this was only an idea --- the points raised by this little thread | has | dampened my enthusiasm for such a project. In fact, my feeling | is that even posting | tunes like Ashokan Farewell to the net i

Re: [abcusers] to post or not to post?

2001-04-04 Thread John Chambers
Brad writes: | Thanks for the comments, all. Fear not, I have not violated any | laws since | this was only an idea --- the points raised by this little thread | has | dampened my enthusiasm for such a project. In fact, my feeling | is that even posting | tunes like Ashokan Farewell to the net i

Re: [abcusers] to post or not to post?

2001-04-04 Thread John Chambers
Richard L Walker writes: | The irony (unless it involves money changing hands) is that people would | have a problem with a book, yet, you can take those same tunes, available | online in mid or abc format, and produce the same sheet music with several | programs. This is in part because the copy

RE: [abcusers] to post or not to post?

2001-04-04 Thread Richard L Walker
The irony (unless it involves money changing hands) is that people would have a problem with a book, yet, you can take those same tunes, available online in mid or abc format, and produce the same sheet music with several programs. "Richard L Walker"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pensacola, FL 32504-7726 US

Re: [abcusers] to post or not to post?

2001-04-04 Thread Brad Johnson
John Chambers wrote: > > | This brings to the forefront a very murky problem. I have > | a (not so) large collection of tunes in ABC format (<=100 :-). > | While most are in the public domain, some are not. > | For example, I have a version of Ashokan's Farewell written by > | Jay Unger in 1983.

Re: [abcusers] Fomula for determining a half step in MgHz...

2001-04-04 Thread Phil Taylor
Frank Nordberg wrote: >I posted this table at abcusers a year or so ago: > > Pythagorean Equal >c260.74 261.6 >cb 278.43 277.2 >d# 274.69 277.2 >d293.33 293.7 >db 313.24 311.1 >e# 309.03 311.1 >e330

Re: [abcusers] to post or not to post?

2001-04-04 Thread Frank Nordberg
Jack Campin wrote: > > > I was only interested in different people's reason for not wanting > > their music posted so that I could be more informed when the topic > > came up, like it did in the workshop this past weekend. > > Here are some I can think of: > > 1. I'm dead and I'm not listenin

Re: [abcusers] Fomula for determining a half step in MgHz...

2001-04-04 Thread Mike Whitaker
> cb 278.43 277.2 > d# 274.69 277.2 You mean C# and Db, surely? -- Mike Whitaker | Work: +44 1733 766619 | Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] System Architect | Fax: +44 1733 348287 | Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CricInfo Ltd | GSM: +44 7971 977375 | Web: http://www.cricket.o

Re: [abcusers] Fomula for determining a half step in MgHz...

2001-04-04 Thread Frank Nordberg
Brad Maloney wrote: > > Hi, > My Name is Brad Maloney and I have been lurking for quite a while on this > list. At any rate for a diversion and excercise I am playing around > with coding a QBasic-like program from scratch, but I am hung up on > the fomula that "figures" half step increments in