Re: [abcusers] P: Field

2002-06-04 Thread Phil Taylor
Jeff Bigler wrote: You have to put each P: field in all of the voices if you want to control playing order. Same goes for M: and K: fields (assuming that you want all the voices to change metre and key at the same point). The latter pair is actually useful for some picese. To give a

[abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
As you prob know I'm one extremely happy abc user. Yesterday I showed a friend of mine my songbook, and he liked it, but had to ask If abc is so cool, how come I haven't heard of it? Anyways I tried to give me a couple of reasons to get into abc, but I prob missed some good ones, so please make

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Guido Gonzato
Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Atte Andre Jensen wrote: * free * stuff like my songbook (server generated pdf's in 12 keys) are AFAIK not really possible using Finale * runs on any platform * small file size * works on my Palm (and I typed quite a few songs during public transportation) * speed? I

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread John Chambers
| Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Atte Andre Jensen wrote: | * free | * stuff like my songbook (server generated pdf's in 12 keys) are AFAIK not | really possible using Finale | * runs on any platform | * small file size | * works on my Palm (and I typed quite a few songs during public | transportation)

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Atte Andre Jensen wrote: As you prob know I'm one extremely happy abc user. Yesterday I showed a friend of mine my songbook, and he liked it, but had to ask If abc is so cool, how come I haven't heard of it? Anyways I tried to give me a couple of reasons to get into abc,

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Laura Conrad
Phil == Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil The only faster way to get music into a computer is to play it on Phil a midi keyboard, and even then you are usually going to have to Phil do a lot of post entry editing. The people I know who claim to be really fast in Finale use

AW: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Toni Schilling
Atte Andre Jensen wrote *formatting is seperated from the music itself *anything else* is separated from the music information itself. I would say, this is the most important thing. All other resons are based on this one in some way. The information is now a kind of stream-format which

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On 4 Jun 2002, Laura Conrad wrote: snip In ABC, I think I'm faster when I'm typing in the octave that doesn't use the capital letters, and I'm certainly faster when I don't have to enter the commas or the apostrophes. So is anyone working on an ABC application that allows this? Or better

AW: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Toni Schilling
Laura Conrad wrote Atte Or better (IMHO): an interface that works the way lily Atte works. That is the note is asumed to be the closed to the Atte previous one. I disagree -- that makes the notes too context dependant, so you can't just cut and paste a snippet into an email.

Re: [abcusers] P: Field

2002-06-04 Thread Jack Campin
You have to put each P: field in all of the voices if you want to control playing order. Same goes for M: and K: fields (assuming that you want all the voices to change metre and key at the same point). The latter pair is actually useful for some picese. Yes, even Bach did it. One of the

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On 4 Jun 2002, Laura Conrad wrote: Atte == Atte Andre Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Atte So instead of: Atte CDEF | GABc | c2G2 | c2C2 | c2c2 | Atte you do: Atte Cdef | gabc | c2g2 | c2c,2 | c'2c2 | Now a data entry mechanism that took your second line and turned it

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
Atte: speed? I think I'm faster in abc than I used to be in encore, but I'm not sure... Phil: When using a graphical music editor to type music in from a score, this is what you spend most time doing: *Look at the score, see that the next note is A and it's 1/8. etc OUCH! Get Muse! OK - I

[abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-04 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
I haven't had the opportunity to try to encode anything yet, but I look forward to doing so. I'm saving the tons of posts from everyone so I can go back through for hints on various things when I do get to that point. I have downloaded various things and used abc2Win and whatever behind the

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-04 Thread Buddha Buck
At 10:44 AM 06-04-2002 -0700, Don Parrish-Bell you wrote: I haven't had the opportunity to try to encode anything yet, but I look forward to doing so. I'm saving the tons of posts from everyone so I can go back through for hints on various things when I do get to that point. One thing to keep

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread John Chambers
Frank Nordberg wrote: | John Chambers wrote: | One of my favorite ways to test music software is to attempt to enter | some of the better-known Balkan songs. For instance, Jovano, Jovanke, | which wants a meter of 7/8 and a key signature of one sharp and two | flats (^f_B_e). It's a

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Frank Nordberg wrote: Hmmm, I feel a bit bad about spoiling the party, but: Oh, just as we were padding each other so gently on the back, you naughty you :-) * stuff like my songbook (server generated pdf's in 12 keys) are AFAIK not really possible using Finale That

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-04 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
Buddha Buck wrote: At 10:44 AM 06-04-2002 -0700, Don Parrish-Bell you wrote: I haven't had the opportunity to try to encode anything yet, but I look forward to doing so. I'm saving the tons of posts from everyone so I can go back through for hints on various things when I do get to that

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-04 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Don Parrish-Bell wrote: ---Actually I was referring to the horizontal spacing for each measure. Even in PDF format, the sheet music seems a bit cramped when you print it out. I suppose what I'm really after, then, is a formating tool with preferences I can tinker with.

[abcusers] Announce: new version of Five Line Skink

2002-06-04 Thread Wil Macaulay
Version 1.0a4 of Five Line Skink is available - link from http://www.geocities.com/w_macaulay/abc4mac.html Skink runs on Mac OS X, Linux, Windows, Solaris - any platform with at least Java 1.2. Java 1.3 is recommended. New features: Substantially improved performance Substantially improved

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-04 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
Yes, MusicTime definitely has some weird little quirks, but for $25.00 it wasn't too bad. It doesn't do TAB at all and it won't let you write a lyric chord sheet. Also it's not OLE-compatible, so you can't take a passage out of it and paste it into Word, for example. My wife has used it

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-04 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
Muse sounds interesting. Laurie (ukonline) wrote: Don Parrish-Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] had a wish-list. Here's how Muse shapes up (no, it's not 100%, though if I were a beginner user I might think it was until I discovered the fine details). 1. Enter guitar TAB, tool creates sheet music and

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-04 Thread John Walsh
The only part of ABC that I could see that would affect how cramped together a peice of music would look in staff notation is the length of individual lines. Most ABC to Staff converters I know of do not break lines of ABC into multiple lines of staff notation. Obviously, the same piece of

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Ulf
When touch-typing abc you don't spend much time looking at the screen, so the equivalent is: *Look at the score, see that the next note is A and it's 1/8. *Hit the Shift and A keys without taking your eyes off the score. No competition. Of course if you are entering a tune out