Re: [abcusers] Sidmouth

2002-07-22 Thread Thomas Bending
Anyone going to Sidmouth this year? I'm playing with Momentum for English social dance, including the Playford Ball on Wednesday night. I'd be glad to meet any ABCusers who wander by. Shameless plug: www.MomentumBand.co.uk Thomas Bending To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to:

Re: [abcusers] RE: Explicit key signatures

2002-07-22 Thread Jack Campin
Bruce Olson wrote: I had assumed that use of key-mode specification in ABC came in only through a bit of misguided fuzzy logic. Figuring out how to describe something completely in the minimum number of independent parameters isn't always straightforward. As others have pointed out, the

[abcusers] Modes without the maths

2002-07-22 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
Tonic is important because it says where the tune is going. Mode is important because it says how the tune is going to get there. If a tune is in an open key (no white notes on the harpsichord) then in the major (or Ionian) mode the obvious harmony is the three chord trick C, G7 and F. The

AW: [abcusers] Modes without the maths

2002-07-22 Thread Toni Schilling
Laurie wrote: ... To summarise it so you can see it at a glance, here it is as a table. The final sequence is the first two chords in reverse order e.g. G7=C. K:Cmaj CG7 F K:Ddor Dm E (G, Bm) K:Ephr EFmaj7 G7 Am K:Gmix GF (C) K:Aaeo Am C

[abcusers] RE: Explicit key signatures

2002-07-22 Thread Bryancreer
Jack Campin wrote - As others have pointed out, the description of a tune purely by key signature isn't complete unless you are using equal temperament; you don't know the exact pitches of the notes unless you know the mode. As I have pointed out, the mode is in the tune and may vary as it goes

Re: [abcusers] Key/Mode algorithm

2002-07-22 Thread Phil Taylor
Bruce Olsen wrote: I must admit that I didn't use it, because I don't think that a statistical approach is needed here. [I did actually program that data collection into my ABC player program, but didn't have the patience to run through a large number of tunes in a variety of modes and collect

Re: [abcusers] Key/Mode algorithm

2002-07-22 Thread Robert Bley-Vroman
On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:09:00 -0400 Bruce Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mode distribution: Highest 31 modes (of 179) of the 6601 tunes stressed coded in file Comcode.TXT on my website. then follows a table This table is wonderful! Thank you. I've been wanting something like this. It give some

Re: [abcusers] Key/Mode algorithm

2002-07-22 Thread John Chambers
Robert Bley-Vroman writes: | | Bruce wrote, in passing, that if abc eliminates key+mode in K:, | | we can cut out ambiguity in | notation and put it into interpretation where it belongs. | | It seems to me that as long as abc uses any kind of key signature (with | sharps or flats), the chief

[abcusers] Re: Key/Mode algorithm

2002-07-22 Thread Bryancreer
Robert Bley-Vroman wrote - Will major-scale tune with some flatted sevenths be transcribed with the flatted seventh as part of the key signature, or with the flatted sevenths indicated as accidentals within the body of the tune? Whichever you like as long as you specify all the notes

Re: [abcusers] Re: Key/Mode algorithm

2002-07-22 Thread Bruce Olson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Bley-Vroman wrote - Will major-scale tune with some flatted sevenths be transcribed with the flatted seventh as part of the key signature, or with the flatted sevenths indicated as accidentals within the body of the tune? Whichever you like as long as