I can't seem to reach JC's tune finder (or anything else for that
part) at trillian.mit.edu. Any idean when it will be up again?
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ugh, or you might upset the holiday peace.
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s, maybe
these should be renamed to "backing chords" or something
similar.
2.2. Continuation of input lines: The way it is defined for w: fields is
unacceptable to me.
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ery silent in the abc 2.0 discussions lately,
because I'm on vacation, but I'll be back...
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al characters who link almost everybody.
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> searchs for x in the Y(n). If this command doesn't determine a unique
> n' in the range of 1 to 7, then the tune is improperly coded, but with
> correct tune coding then you will get an n' (such that Y(n') = x)
> uniquely determining the scoring mode, and this
c, but that's
not meant to be preserved in print. If people want them printed
with 4 bars per line, fine for me, but I wouldn't print them like that
for myself. I would like as compact printing as possible, which
would mean about 6 bars per line.
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uestion for you, since I've never tried BarFly myself.
How do you actually treat the macros when it comes to playback
and printing.
m: ~G3=G{A}G{F}G
Is that only for playback? Or do you use it for printing too?
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s, e.g. "A:" are not
case sensitive. ABC is (mostly) a case senstive language. So if I
want to stick to ABNF, which happens to be a standard, I'll have to
use e.g. %x58.3A and have a comment "X:" after it.
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containing !...! break if they don't
substitute *...* for it instead. There can't be that many tunes around
using !...! anyway, or?
John, the way you could count tunes using !...! would be to look for
more lines containing more than one !
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andard yet, but a base for discussion.
When Guido posts his proposal for ABC 2.0 I will update the BNF
too, and you are all welcome to propose changes.
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users probably never inserted a hard line break in a tune, and
maybe didn't even know it was possible.
That's why I don't like the current abc standard for line breaks,
because mostly hard line breaks are not needed.
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So now I can do Czech lyrics. It's interesting
> that Czech is a Latin-1 language. How did that happen?)
Czech is NOT a Latin-1 language. It uses at least 3 non-latin-1
characters that I know of: C with hacek, R with hacek, Z with hacek
(a hacek is an upside down ^)
Henrik No
ine,
not in the middle of it. I hadn't understood until today that it was
actually allowed in the middle of a line too.
BTW, nobody reacted to that specification for more than five years,
so whose is the booboo?
Now I've actually made a new, much more strict BNF specification
of Abc 2.
as Frank's ABC application database,
JC's tune finder, etc.
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dication out of the window if you wish,
> I'll not get upset. I just believe that with a bit of coordination - I did
> nothing more than this - we'll soon have the new standard.
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z, A-Z, 0-9, ! " ' % / \ ( ) { } [ ] | < > - _ ~ * . , : ^ =
BTW, is * considered obsolete abc nowadays?
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sent through e-mail at some time. You just
have to have a user option for when to relayout line breaks.
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Moine (because of abcm2ps)
John Chambers (because of the tune finder, jcabc2ps, etc)
Phil Taylor (because of BarFly)
Henrik Norbeck (because of AbcMus and bnf spec)
Guido Gonzato (because of abcplus and lots of other stuff)
I suggest that if the committee cannot decide unanimously on
parts of the sta
There was a "standards committee" (or some similar name)
some years ago. Don't remember who was on it, but I think it
should be revived, with a chairman/leader.
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8th-tone. Can you point us to a web page?
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h
e "Norafjells".
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http://www.rfod.se/fo
Phil Taylor wrote:
> Was that actually what he meant? It's not clear from the example,
> since it doesn't have an M: field. Perhaps he just meant (3F>G A
> (which should already just work).
Well, then he should write (3::3F>G A to be sure that it works.
Henrik N
r syntax, e.g.
E (3::2F>G A A A | E (3::2A3/2A/2 E A |
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suggestions?
I know we have discussed it before at some time in the past, but I
think we never reached any conclusion.
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amongst jazzmusicians "to take something off the
> record and write it down"???
In this case I would write something like
Z:ABC by Henrik Norbeck
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copyright info, what kind of copyright do you mean?
Transcriber -> Z:
Composer or arranger -> C:
Or something else?
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in loads of places nowadays, so even if I
change my copy of them and upload to my web site, there will still
be thousands of copies on people's computers and other web
sites.
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unes using
> abc2win, which ignores line feeds and has its own nonstandard way of
> indicating end-of-staff. That could be what's going on here.
I've never really used Abc2win that much. I downloaded and
installed it, but never liked it, so I made AbcMus instead. And I'v
NEVER seen a 3rd and 4th ending in
print. Though, of course they could be handy for handwritten music.
What is needed much more is "bis" notation. Do we allow repeats
within repeats, or should we use some other way of writing it?
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une. I've been thinking though of
making a little part which will search for tunes that match certain
range criteria, e.g. to find tunes that fit on the GHB.
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posed"?
Can we get along to deciding something now, for #%&/=+#% sake!
Otherwise we will land where HTML is (Microsoft standard,
Netscape standard).
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self at work, and I
would rather have an abc collection taking 11 or even 110 MB than
have it bog down the CPU with programs to run for every GIF or
MIDI download.
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> Second question: I have a Chinese book of flute tunes, written out
> much like abc, but in numbers, not letters. If I could read the Chinese
> introduction, I probably wouldn't have to ask but...does anybody here know
> anything about this notation? Is it particular t
ath-a-mach! you could simply
write a T in the abc and have it display as an upside-down T.
Postscript effects are not a good thing to introduce into standard
abc, because they might not transfer easily to other (non-
Postscript) environments.
BTW, I would say both the T's and C's are rota
middle of a part (not just at the end as with [1 and [2
in ABC).
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h
I forgot to say that the abc I posted for the tune was a corrected
version.
I also forgot to say that it's not a schottische, although of course
it's possible to dance a schottische to it.
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ten
C:Anders Norudde (Stake)
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=170
K:Ador
A-|ABcA B2 B A-|ABcA B2 B A-|ABcd e2 dc|1 Bc B2 A3:|2 Bc B2 A4|
|: gege g2 e f-|fdfd f2 d g-|gega- a g fe-| efg a-a aaa|
agf e2 c2g|gfe d2 B2 B|ABcd e2 dc|Bc B2 A4 :|
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ostmaster, thanking for their support for Al-Qaida and
the cause of Usama bin Ladin? Or maybe thanking them for the
latest delivery of anthrax spores?
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ould have an
"obfuscated abc" competition...
Of course L:11/17 is ridiculous, but someone could for example
decide to use L:3/8 which could maybe make sense in some
tunes.
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duration, but things like that would be written using
multiple voices [V:n] anyway, so it doesn't prove any conflict
between having chords with notes of different lengths and w:
words.
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control.
You must have some sort of "preferences" dialog to let the user
select which midi device to use. There are Windows functions for
getting a list of midi devices. You must open the midi device
anyway, so just specify the correct device to open according to the
user's choice
I vote against allowing things like [Ad]8
Let's not make abc more complicated than needed.
If you're writing for instance a bass part, just change the L: field for
that voice if you find you're repeating too many [C,,8G,,8E,8]
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quot;
> Any chance to get this on the way?
This sounds like a good suggestion to me. V:0 would mean "no
voices any longer". Of course inline fields would be in [], so the
example would read
ABCD | EFGa | [V:1]b/a/b/a/ d/c/d/c/ [V:2] [A2B2][C2D2] [V:0] | DCBA |
Henrik Norbeck, Stockh
t;Melody note first" pretty much demands "shortest determines length" (or
> else some new mechanism such as numbers after the close bracket) because the
> melody note may be longer than the accompaniment.
Very good point.
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iple voices, but they weren't around yet in abc when
I transcribed this). Anyway, it clearly shows that rests should
be allowed in chords.
X:1
T:Praeludium I
C:J.S. Bach
B:Das Wohltemperierte Clavier
Z:Abc by Henrik Norbeck
M:C
L:1/16
Q:1/4=80
K:C
%%midi program 0 (piano)
[C8z] [E7z] Gc eGce [
gives the right notes)
Yes, please send me a tune with this error.
> I've downloaded AbcMus2 beta2 but I don't see the difference with
> AbcMus2 beta1
There were a few minor corrections of things which you probably
did not notice.
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mode in western European music and
therefore the default mode).
They actually teach you wrong at school...
Getting back to the abc, I would prefer to have the notation
K:^f ^c
to K:D
because it simply means what it says and does not imply anything
else. Then you're free to place whatever
. I had better remind him...
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> 1. search for 'Lady Ann Montgomery'
> oops - 30 returns. six are were transcribed by Henrik Norbeck, and
> of those, three have a more recent date. I know Henrik's been reliable
> in the past, so I'll pick one of those.
John, you can reduce the number of dup
as accidentals on every note.
4: Key signature C| is erroneously interpreted as 4/4. It is actually
2/2, but should be printed as a C with a line through it.
5. There's a nearly empty line at the beginning, containing only the
first grace note.
Most tunes from my collection become a mes
home page.
However, I unfortunately didn't find the time to add printing of sheet
music.
/Henrik
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non posso tradurre in inglese adesso, perché ho un bambino
di due mesi, e non c'é molto tempo per altre cose. Ma, Guido,
penso che il tuo inglese sia meglio che il mio italiano...
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I have a free font called MusicalSymbols which contains all you
need I think. I can send it to you if you contact me off-list.
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ction with each tune in a separate file
is to merge them into one or a few files, i.e. the opposite of what
you do. Your way and mine are just two ways of using abc files,
both of which work equally well.
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about half a year ago, I think. For
players of Scottish music this would be very useful, e.g. for
"march/strathspey/reel" sets.
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er implementation would understand it.
AbcMus handles it fine, but it actually stumbled on the first version
and started complaining about bad bar lengths. Hm, have to fix
that.
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this, using these or other tools?
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inor, C minor, Eb major, G minor, B major,
E major, G# minor (the last ones are indeed pretty strange though)
But it could not have an F minor chord set to it, since none of the
notes in that chord (F Ab c) are in the music it should be set to.
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ies a begin-repeat.
If this is not the case, how should it be interpreted.
Or perhaps I have misunderstood the fine details of the P:
definition.
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w can I find these out ?
Take a look at "The Fiddler's Companion" by Andrew Kuntz.
http://www.ceolas.org/tunes/fc/
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ht
nd then the beta version will be out.
However, I've skipped printing of sheet music for this version. It
proved to be a bit too much work.
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uot;..."/A", and
> that oughta work, too.
The next version (out soon) will take care of this too.
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John Chambers wrote:
> Dunno about that program, but abc2ps has used J for this ornament for
> some years. Are there any other programs that implement this?
AbcMus does (for playback).
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e ed/c/|BA d>A|BA dA|BA B/c/d/e/|
fe ed/c/|BA d>B|A/G/F/A/ dA|FE E2:|
The last tune of the set is the one from my collection that
someone else also posted.
I don't have abc's for any of the other tunes.
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#x27;s still pretty bad
I'm not too sure... At least ascii is easy to extend by just adding
extra characters after the original 128 (as is indeed done). Midi on
the other hand has loads of hardwired peculiarities which cause
immense trouble for all programmers who ever delve into i
> Hm! Muse has voice limit of 8 - maybe I should make it more.
Why have a limit at all? If you set the limit to 16, someone is
sooner or later bound to need 18, and so on. Dynamic allocation
is the answer!
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> I have released abcpp, a preprocessor for ABC files.
This seems very good, but is there a homepage for download
anywhere?
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nel 9 (if you start counting them on 0) is used for percussion
in General MIDI, so that causes the problem. I don't know if there
is a workaround in Abc2Midi. AbcMus handles it correctly, though,
by skipping channel 9.
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A2 c> A F> A | G2 G4 |
w: Jul-af-ton \"ar en fre-dag!
D2 E2 F2 | G2 A2 B2 |
w: Klunk, klunk, klunk, klunk, klunk, klunk,
c2c> B A2 | B2 B> A G2 |
w: bland-a och ge, bland-a och ge,
D2 E2 F2 | G2 A2 B2 |
w: ab-ra-ka- da-bra-klunk,
c2
ools are changing now.
I agree with others who have said we should reject the H notation
in ABC. The history behind the H notation, btw, is that some
German monk misread a "b" as "h" centuries back, and it stayed
that way, because it was used as a "hack" bef
e: Praktisk Violinskole, I. Del
> V:1 program 1 40
> V:2 program 1 41
> M:2/4
> L:1/8
> Q:1/4=72
> K:Em
> V:1
> B2BB|g2fe|e2ed|B2G2|A2AA|d2ed|A2cc|B2G2|B2BB|g2fe|e2ed|B2G2|BAGA|B4|BAFG|E3z|]
> V:2
>
>EFGF|EGAB|cC2D|G,B,DG-|GFEF|DAcB|AGFE|^DF2E|GFE=D|^CB,^A,C|B,F
ation (I don't remember the URL at the
moment), and I think I've seen at least one site in French. There's
also a French (partial) translation on Chris Walshaw's official abc
site.
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ith
each other at the moment. Can we reach an agreement about a
great unified macro/redefine standard.
Is the standards committee working? Who is on it?
Is this a big can of worms?
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se-arm.
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http://home.swipnet.se/hnorbeck/abc.htm >1000 abc tunes
http://surf.to/blackthorn Irish trad music
Eric Forgeot wrote:
> Try using Abcmus by Henrik Norbeck
> (home.swipnet.se/~w-11382/abcmus/ ). It produces nice midi output
> (it's shareware, but really worth it, yes, I think it's the most reliable)
Just don't forget to turn off the playback style feature by clearing
st treat [V:2] as a line break + a voice change if it does
not occur at the beginning of a line!
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abcusers list, since I haven't received any
messages from that since 19 March 2001.
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