Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-16 Thread John Chambers
Jeff mentioned in passing: | > From: Gary J Sibio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > However, [this list] is also for people who write ABC software - | | Actually, in my (admittedly short) tenure on this list, I've noticed | that developers seem to forget that the list is also for users more | often than vic

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-16 Thread Jeff Bigler
> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 01:01:46 -0500 > From: Gary J Sibio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 4) Someone griped that this is an ABC group and not a MS-bashing group > which, to a point, is a valid issue That would be me. I'm not a fan of Windows myself, but Microsoft- bashing has taken over many a list

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-16 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
your comment is that the MS Apps folks had access to pre-release API's to base their apps on. Which meant that the MS App folks got a head-start on development on the new versions - Original Message - From: "Gary J Sibio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-15 Thread Gary J Sibio
I'm responding tomore than just your post here so not everything here applies to what you wrote. At 11:49 PM 4/14/02 +0100, you wrote: >You seemed to miss the point. I *was* in MS. >Which part of MS were you in? 1) I did miss your point that you worked for MS. 2) You were speaking of interfa

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-14 Thread Jeff Bigler
> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 13:28:56 -0500 > From: Gary J Sibio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > At 10:38 AM 4/14/02 +0100, you wrote: > >(During my time in the Windows Systems group in MS I never came across any > >interfaces that were intended to be secret. What I > > Microsoft keeps the secret stuff fo

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-14 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
You seemed to miss the point. I *was* in MS. Which part of MS were you in? Laurie - Original Message - From: "Gary J Sibio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graph

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-14 Thread Gary J Sibio
At 10:38 AM 4/14/02 +0100, you wrote: >(During my time in the Windows Systems group in MS I never came across any >interfaces that were intended to be secret. What I Microsoft keeps the secret stuff for itself. Most programmers (that is, the ones that don't work for MSFT) don't know about them

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-14 Thread John Chambers
Laurie write: | FWIW Muse does not use any "secret", or undocumented parts of the Windows | interface. | | (During my time in the Windows Systems group in MS I never came across any | interfaces that were intended to be secret. What I did find were places | where an app had been developed to an e

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-14 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
be left in but undocumented). Of course, there may have been secrets that I wasn't told (almost "by definition of secret"). L. - Original Message - From: "John Chambers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 3:58 AM S

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-13 Thread Jeff Bigler
> From: "Doug Rogers/Yowza Software" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:00:09 -0700 > I must say that after reading about the limitations, or seeing some of > the solutions ( such as: "^f-|f-|f-|_g-|g-|^^e-|e-|^f " ), well, it's > a real treat to simply work with a real, graphical sc

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-13 Thread John Chambers
Rick writes: | "Laurie (ukonline)" wrote: | | > No, sorry - no Linux version. | > | > (You mean Linux doesn't have a Windows emulation subsystem!!) | | Shudder!!! (To the backdrop of loud wailing and gnashing of teeth!!) ;-) Well, actually, it does have several. Wine and Lindows come to mind.

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-13 Thread Rick Davis
"Laurie (ukonline)" wrote: > No, sorry - no Linux version. > > (You mean Linux doesn't have a Windows emulation subsystem!!) > > L. Shudder!!! (To the backdrop of loud wailing and gnashing of teeth!!) ;-) Rick My opinions are my own, and, unfortunately, not those of the rest of society. T

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-13 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
No, sorry - no Linux version. (You mean Linux doesn't have a Windows emulation subsystem!!) L. - Original Message - From: "Ulf Bro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [abcusers] The virtues of hand

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-13 Thread Ulf Bro
Am Samstag, 13. April 2002 01:05 schrieb Laurie (ukonline): > Nice advert. :-) > the USA. I suppose while we're doing adverts I should add how it can also > translate ABC into guitar tablature (or mandolin, balalaika bouzouki etc). I have mentioned exactly this to the co-mando (mandoline playe

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-12 Thread joe
Ulf Bro wrote: > Abc2ps gives a very nice looking sheet which can afterwards become converted > to pdf with ps2pdf. I have noticed that this results in relatively small > files suitable for emailing to the other band members who can print them out > even if they for some reason still happen to hav

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-12 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:00 PM Subject: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically ... I guess I'm writing this to remind those who don't that for a pretty small investment (less than $100 for MusEdit and seve

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-12 Thread Ulf Bro
Am Samstag, 13. April 2002 00:00 schrieb Doug Rogers/Yowza Software: > I know that the big advantage of ABC is that it is text-based > and therefore "readable" by anyone, and by a lot of software, and > it's also platform independent. But it sure is nice to use software > which is graphics ba

Re: [abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-12 Thread Wil Macaulay
Hi Doug, Interesting, I was just thinking about the same thing over the weekend. I've put quite a few hours of time over the last four years into 5 Line Skink, and I asked myself whether it was worth continuing, given the high quality of other packages out there. I came to a slightly different

[abcusers] The virtues of handling music graphically

2002-04-12 Thread Doug Rogers/Yowza Software
Dear ABCer's: Over the past few years several fans of ABC notation urged me to add the ability to import and export ABC to my notation software ( MusEdit, http://www.musedit.com ) and I did that about six months ago. Since then I've been monitoring the ABC list for new developments in this