Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-06 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
I have performed magic on stage in the past. There was of course always a mundane behind-the-scenes explanation of what appeared to happen, there was some effort needed to implement the tricks, some people to whom credit was due, etc. It's definitely magic. Laurie - Original Message -

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-05 Thread Phil Taylor
Ulf wrote: My conclusion: abc is good for people who (1) are very experienced in the use of a computer, (2) who can do the necessary intellectual abstractions in their mind and type in the tune at the same time (3) who use sheet music - both reading and writing, and who write a lot of musical

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-05 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
IMHO I think abc is an excellent, efficient means of transporting tunes. That seems like what you were all after in the beginning. And it is a refreshing change from the multi-megabyte, bloated files for other things in the wintel world! Phil Taylor wrote: Ulf wrote: My conclusion: abc

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-05 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
JC's tune finder is magic. For instance I was at the last M27 Megabop which Rufus Returns played at. They played one number I really liked but I was unable to learn it there and then (no Mozart, I). I went to Chipenham Folk Festival last weekend and someone played it in the English Session in

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-05 Thread John Chambers
Laurie writes: | JC's tune finder is magic. | | For instance I was at the last M27 Megabop which Rufus Returns played at. | They played one number I really liked but I was unable to learn it there and | then (no Mozart, I). I went to Chipenham Folk Festival last weekend and | someone played it

[abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
As you prob know I'm one extremely happy abc user. Yesterday I showed a friend of mine my songbook, and he liked it, but had to ask If abc is so cool, how come I haven't heard of it? Anyways I tried to give me a couple of reasons to get into abc, but I prob missed some good ones, so please make

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Guido Gonzato
Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Atte Andre Jensen wrote: * free * stuff like my songbook (server generated pdf's in 12 keys) are AFAIK not really possible using Finale * runs on any platform * small file size * works on my Palm (and I typed quite a few songs during public transportation) * speed? I

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread John Chambers
| Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Atte Andre Jensen wrote: | * free | * stuff like my songbook (server generated pdf's in 12 keys) are AFAIK not | really possible using Finale | * runs on any platform | * small file size | * works on my Palm (and I typed quite a few songs during public | transportation)

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Atte Andre Jensen wrote: As you prob know I'm one extremely happy abc user. Yesterday I showed a friend of mine my songbook, and he liked it, but had to ask If abc is so cool, how come I haven't heard of it? Anyways I tried to give me a couple of reasons to get into abc,

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Laura Conrad
Phil == Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil The only faster way to get music into a computer is to play it on Phil a midi keyboard, and even then you are usually going to have to Phil do a lot of post entry editing. The people I know who claim to be really fast in Finale use

AW: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Toni Schilling
Atte Andre Jensen wrote *formatting is seperated from the music itself *anything else* is separated from the music information itself. I would say, this is the most important thing. All other resons are based on this one in some way. The information is now a kind of stream-format which

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On 4 Jun 2002, Laura Conrad wrote: snip In ABC, I think I'm faster when I'm typing in the octave that doesn't use the capital letters, and I'm certainly faster when I don't have to enter the commas or the apostrophes. So is anyone working on an ABC application that allows this? Or better

AW: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Toni Schilling
Laura Conrad wrote Atte Or better (IMHO): an interface that works the way lily Atte works. That is the note is asumed to be the closed to the Atte previous one. I disagree -- that makes the notes too context dependant, so you can't just cut and paste a snippet into an email.

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On 4 Jun 2002, Laura Conrad wrote: Atte == Atte Andre Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Atte So instead of: Atte CDEF | GABc | c2G2 | c2C2 | c2c2 | Atte you do: Atte Cdef | gabc | c2g2 | c2c,2 | c'2c2 | Now a data entry mechanism that took your second line and turned it

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
Atte: speed? I think I'm faster in abc than I used to be in encore, but I'm not sure... Phil: When using a graphical music editor to type music in from a score, this is what you spend most time doing: *Look at the score, see that the next note is A and it's 1/8. etc OUCH! Get Muse! OK - I

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread John Chambers
Frank Nordberg wrote: | John Chambers wrote: | One of my favorite ways to test music software is to attempt to enter | some of the better-known Balkan songs. For instance, Jovano, Jovanke, | which wants a meter of 7/8 and a key signature of one sharp and two | flats (^f_B_e). It's a

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Frank Nordberg wrote: Hmmm, I feel a bit bad about spoiling the party, but: Oh, just as we were padding each other so gently on the back, you naughty you :-) * stuff like my songbook (server generated pdf's in 12 keys) are AFAIK not really possible using Finale That

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Ulf
When touch-typing abc you don't spend much time looking at the screen, so the equivalent is: *Look at the score, see that the next note is A and it's 1/8. *Hit the Shift and A keys without taking your eyes off the score. No competition. Of course if you are entering a tune out