[ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-12 Thread Victor W.
Today a conversation at my job came up about setting the preferred DNS server on the NIC of a DC with DNS installed. For as far as I know it's best to point the DC (with DNS installed) to itself for DNS by specifying the internal IP address of the DC as the preferred DNS server on the NIC.

Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-12 Thread Al Mulnick
You don't work at the post office do you? ;)     There are many many many ways to properly configure DNS.  One thing that helps is to think of the terms client and server vs. preferred and alternate only. You are configuring a preferred server and an alternate server that you want this DC to be a c

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-13 Thread neil.ruston
: Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always? You don't work at the post office do you? ;)     There are many many many ways to properly configure DNS.  One thing that helps is to think of the terms client and server vs. preferre

Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-13 Thread victor-w
Al, This sure helped, we are by the way indeed talking about W2K DC's. Victor - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Al Mulnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Datum: donderdag, juli 13, 2006 3:58 am Onderwerp: Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred

Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-13 Thread Al Mulnick
In that case, then you won't want to make the host a client of itself.  Then you would/could run into the island effect.    When you get to R2, you'll want to weigh Neil's comments and see how that plays in your environment.   Al  On 7/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Al,This s

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-13 Thread Deji Akomolafe
: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always? One point that is nearly always overlooked is the following, if a DC points to itself for DNS name res:   The DNS server service starts *after* NETLOGON, at

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-13 Thread neil.ruston
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deji AkomolafeSent: 13 July 2006 15:11To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always? Not unless you make Netlogon dependent on DNS i

Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-13 Thread James_Day
Hi Al I did want to throw in a personl experience I had with W2K3 that validates the "Point your DNS server to a replication partner theory". I did see in one environment where every DC had DNS and the msdcs partition was a forest partition. An unfortunate DNS scavenge was done deleting some of

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-13 Thread Kevin Brunson
veDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always? Hi Al I did want to throw in a personl experience I had with W2K3 that validates the "Point your DNS server to a replication partner theory". I

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-13 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Donnerstag, 13. Juli 2006 17:02 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always? Hi Al I did want to

Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-13 Thread Al Mulnick
See how quickly thinking changes? :)   I almost think this is a better reason not to have AD-integrated DNS.  Shall have to ponder a bit more, but I detest the idea of a DNS server being a client to a peer name res server.  I'm still inclined to continue to use the self-as-primary deployment.  I un

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-13 Thread Victor W.
C with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always? See how quickly thinking changes? :)   I almost think this is a better reason not to have AD-integrated DNS.  Shall have to ponder a bit more, but I detest the idea of a DNS server being a client to a peer name res server. 

Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-14 Thread Paul Williams
From: "Grillenmeier, Guido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 6:52 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always? note that DNS startup behavious changes with SP1, which is another

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-14 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
ng...) /Guido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams Sent: Freitag, 14. Juli 2006 12:33 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...alway

Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-14 Thread Al Mulnick
Guido, have you checked this lately?  I know there were several changes to that behavior in several revs IIRC.  The problems you describe were better than a challenge, as I recall.  they had a tenedancy to wreak havoc with integrated dns zones when a dc would come up and create a new zone and then

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-14 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
int. Would be happy to be corrected. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: Freitag, 14. Juli 2006 19:46To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always? Gui

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-14 Thread Steve Linehan
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?   Guido, have you checked this lately?  I know

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-14 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
aviour of DNS in SP1, I'm rather sure that's unchanged at this point. Would be happy to be corrected. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: Freitag, 14. Juli 2006 19:46To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC w

Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-14 Thread Al Mulnick
e DNS app-partitions issue: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/836534/en-us From: Grillenmeier, Guido Sent: Freitag, 14. Juli 2006 20:34 To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org ' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?   ther

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-14 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always? I believe I covered most of this on a previous posting to ActiveDir but here are all of the details into what change was made and why:   First of

Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-17 Thread Paul Williams
@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?   Guido, have you checked this lately?  I know there were several changes to that behavior in several revs IIRC.  The problems you describe were better than a challenge, as I

Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-17 Thread victor-w
Indeed very usefull information, thanks for this. - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Paul Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Datum: maandag, juli 17, 2006 12:06 pm Onderwerp: Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always? > Nice ans

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-21 Thread joe
ubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always? Not unless you make Netlogon dependent on DNS in the startup order. That should be a standard practice.  

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-21 Thread joe
ubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always? See how quickly thinking changes? :)   I almost think this is a better reason not to have AD-integrated DNS.  Shall have to ponder a bit more, but I detest the idea of a DNS server being

Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-21 Thread Al Mulnick
rsday, July 13, 2006 3:32 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?   See how quickly thinking changes? :)   I almost think this is a better reason not to have AD-integrated DNS.  Shall have to

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-22 Thread joe
lnickSent: Friday, July 21, 2006 11:37 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always? Now don't go getting misty eyed and thinking that I'm coming over the joe-side of thinking when it comes to DNS and

RE: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always?

2006-07-22 Thread joe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:24 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Always point a DC with DNS installed to itself as the preferred DNS server...always? The downside is that your logic on this one is very hard to argue