RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-11-14 Thread Han Valk
l.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware > > Yes Exchange is a resource hog. If I run Exchange (virtualized) on it > own set of hardware? This should provide sufficient > resources (assuming > y

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-11-10 Thread Depp, Dennis M.
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:29 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware I could not have worded that better

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2005-11-07 Thread Marcus.Oh
oard so people can move forward. joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy HARTONO Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:44 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware What about

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-11-05 Thread joe
joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy HARTONO Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:44 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware What about virtualizing DCs - say ESX fa

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware [okay so now we're getting a bit OT]

2005-11-01 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 8:51 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware [okay so now we're getting a bit OT] You do realize that that is officially a "transition tool" that you should use to transition 'to'

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware [okay so now we're REALLY OT]

2005-11-01 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware [okay so now we're REALLY OT] The Pop connector also does not drop the email into the Exchange in a place where the Exchange IMF filter will score it. Thus if anyone uses the POP connector on SBS you lose the ability t

Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware [okay so now we're REALLY OT]

2005-10-31 Thread Susan Bradley
loyees. For the purpose of our discussion, we'll define a small company as having less than 50 employees. According to http://www.sba.gov/advo/stats/us_01ss.pdf, this makes up approximately 50% of all employer firms. M -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware [okay so now we're getting a bit OT]

2005-10-31 Thread Brian Desmond
- 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Shirley Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:39 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware [okay so now we're getting

Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware [okay so now we're getting a bit OT]

2005-10-31 Thread Susan Bradley
han a larger one and I like the idea of virtualization for these environments. It cuts down on some of the datacenter clutter although it does increase my risks of failure; it may cancel out if I can better watch a single machine's environmentals vs. a room full of them.

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware [okay so now we're getting a bit OT]

2005-10-31 Thread Ken Schaefer
from PSTs and Bricked Backups!(tm) > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA > >aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] > >Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 5:29 PM > >To: ActiveDir@mail.act

Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware [okay so now we're getting a bit OT]

2005-10-31 Thread Brett Shirley
TECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA > >aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] > >Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 5:29 PM > >To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > >Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware > > > >I w

Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware [okay so now we're getting a bit OT]

2005-10-31 Thread Susan Bradley
:29 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware I would just like to point out that the person who has SBS Rocks as part of her email address did not post that I was thinking that though. :-) Ed Crowley [MVP] wrote: Less than 50 means S

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-31 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
- SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 5:29 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware I would just like to point out that the person who has SBS Rocks as part of her email address did not post that I was thinking that

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2005-10-31 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
% of all employer firms. M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 4:39 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware Of course it's alway

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2005-10-31 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
er 31, 2005 4:44 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware A new FAQ was published on this topic yesterday: http://blogs.technet.com/exchange/archive/2005/10/31/413382.aspx I love the wording in this one. *** Q: Do we support Exchange on

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-31 Thread Tony Murray
A new FAQ was published on this topic yesterday: http://blogs.technet.com/exchange/archive/2005/10/31/413382.aspx I love the wording in this one. *** Q: Do we support Exchange on other virtualization platforms? A: Microsoft has a general support policy for running Microsoft software in non-Micr

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-31 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
onday, October 31, 2005 1:45 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware >From a book proposal I wrote: According to the United States Small Business Administration (the US SBA, at http://www.sba.gov/advo/stats/arsbfaq.txt), small firms:

Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-31 Thread ChuckGaff
It may make sense for smaller environments - I'm usually dealing with the 1000 user-plus environments on most occasions.  In everything testing is key.   Thanks for the good points,   Chuck Gafford Systems Architect Unisys  

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2005-10-31 Thread Michael B. Smith
all employer firms. M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 4:39 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware Of course it's always best, bu

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2005-10-31 Thread Al Mulnick
el out if I can better watch a single machine's environmentals vs. a room full of them. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:21:24 -0500

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2005-10-31 Thread chuckgaff
05 09:25:09 -0800Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware >>Perhaps some day I'll have time to run JetStress on an clustered Exchange server on ESX attached to a SAN to see how it performs. Which is a good thing to do before concluding that virtualizing exch

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-31 Thread Han Valk
Hi, I have seen tests conducted with loadsim on Exchange Server 2003 running on bare metal and on Vmware ESX Server 2003 running on the same hardware. The conclusion was that one can host a lot more mailboxes on bare metal. There's a white paper on Vmware's site that says not to host more than 100

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-30 Thread Freddy HARTONO
ECTED] phone: (+65) 6330-9740 - temp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Presley, Steven Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:18 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware Oh I agree...I

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-30 Thread Presley, Steven
MVP - Directory Services > www.readymaids.com - we know IT > www.akomolafe.com > Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about > Yesterday? -anon > > ________________ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Presley, Steven > Sent: S

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-30 Thread deji
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Presley, Steven Sent: Sun 10/30/2005 8:51 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware We are quite a large ESX shop (number of guest OS's are in the 1000's I believe) and while I fought it for

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-30 Thread Presley, Steven
e- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:49 PM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware > > I disagree. Exchange on ESX can work out qui

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-29 Thread deji
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 10/29/2005 5:40 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware It's possible on ESX but I'm still inclined to recommend not virtualizing Exc

Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-29 Thread chuckgaff
alf Of Medeiros, Jose Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:29 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware I could not have worded that better. Sincerely, Jose Medeiros ADP | National Account Servic

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2005-10-28 Thread Brian Desmond
: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware I could not have worded that better. Sincerely, Jose Medeiros ADP | National Account Services ProBusiness Division | Information Services 925.737.7967 | 408-449-6621

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2005-10-28 Thread Medeiros, Jose
PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:53 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware I couldn't agree more with Tony -- Exchange is a resource hog and should n

Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-28 Thread ChuckGaff
Good thought on the consolidation scenario -- I can see a few more places where it might be helpful.   Chuck  

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2005-10-28 Thread Coleman, Hunter
Typically 20GB and 800 users per store, with 3 stores per server. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 10:17 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-28 Thread chuckgaff
What's your sizing of mail stores and mailboxes there --   Chuck   -Original Message-From: Coleman, Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSent: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:35:27 -0600Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware "It dep

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-28 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coleman, HunterSent: Friday, October 28, 2005 7:35 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware "It depends..."   We're running some production Exchange front-end

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-28 Thread Coleman, Hunter
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 7:53 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware I couldn't agree more with Tony -- Exchan

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2005-10-28 Thread chuckgaff
I couldn't agree more with Tony -- Exchange is a resource hog and should not be done on VMWare except for testing purposes.  Just because you can doesn't mean you should   Chuck Gafford Systems Architect Unisys Mobile:  (405) 819-6766   -Original Message-From: Medeiros, Jose <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-27 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:52 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; # Jose Medeiros-IBM (E-mail) Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtua

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-27 Thread Tony Murray
Hi Jose You're absolutely right about the need for careful capacity planning when looking to go down this route. SBS is fine for certain environments. A branch office deployment could be an example of where virtualisation might be appropriate. Organisations don't typically want to double up on h

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-27 Thread Medeiros, Jose
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:52 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; # Jose Medeiros-IBM (E-mail) Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-27 Thread Brian Desmond
Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:52 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; # Jose Medeiros-IBM (E-mail) Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware Ultimate bare metal restore capability on any hardware comes to

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2005-10-27 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Ultimate bare metal restore capability on any hardware comes to mind :-) Ultimate Patch rollback. Supported imaging of a SBS/DC? :-) While we don't have UNC rollback issues because of our single DC, the threat of getting that box back online as soon as you can for a small firm. Read thi

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange now supported on virtual hardware

2005-10-27 Thread Brian Desmond
Depends how you present the storage. Using the term VMWare here is a poor generalization. With ESX you can present raw LUNs straight off the SAN to VMs. With GSX/Virtual Server you can still do this, but you have to go through the abstraction layer that GSX/Virtual Server has to present OS storage