Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
:25 AM *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers Brian, Could you please explain to me what you mean by "save for the browsing situation, but who uses that anyway?" Are you saying that your networks don't have browse mas

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
29.57.777 ( Mobile : +31-(0)6-26.26.62.80 * E-mail : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Freddy HARTONO Sent: Thu 2006-07-13 17:09 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers Hi Jorge Aha, does that happen to be a l

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread Brian Desmond
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rocky Habeeb Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:25 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers   Brian,   Could you please explain to me what

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread Freddy HARTONO
lf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge de Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:55 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers In the "Windows Server System Reference Architecture" (WSSRA) Microsoft states: "At this time, Microsoft does not support load balan

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread Deji Akomolafe
veDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers In the "Windows Server System Reference Architecture" (WSSRA) Microsoft states: "At this time, Microsoft does not support load balanced network teams on domain controllers due to potential data corruption iss

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread Paul Williams
uot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:54 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers In the "Windows Server System Reference Architecture" (WSSRA) Microsoft states: "At this time, Microsoft does not support load balanced network teams on do

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread Kevin Brunson
July 13, 2006 1:21 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers Can't your spyware just change/delete the host entries again? Or use an IP address (or do you configure static routes for the subnets that the IP addresses reside in that those host ent

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
>>-Original Message- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>Paul Williams >>>Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 13:50 >>>To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >>>Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread Al Mulnick
I think the term is "BAN" in this case.   ;-)     On 7/13/06, Jeff Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, I don't think the driving factor is the size of the IT operationin terms of # DC's necessarily. In my small environment (3 x DC, 1 x Exchange, 2 x Fileserver, 1 xSharepoint), the factors are   

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread Al Mulnick
AIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:29 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers   I've not had good luck with teaming and I've yet to see much benefit.  Saying that, I can see where teaming in a failover

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread Rocky Habeeb
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Brian DesmondSent: 13 July, 2006 1:29 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers I’ve got hundreds of sites/forests with multihomed DCs. It

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread AFidel
s" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/12/2006 04:46 PM Please respond to ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org To ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org cc Subject Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers Not so sure I agree with that.  Thin clients work ju

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread neil.ruston
ECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams Sent: 13 July 2006 12:50 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers We team everything. It seems stupid not too. Use fault tolerance only (as opposed to load balancing) and you've got

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread Paul Williams
IL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:02 AM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers Don't mean to hijack this thread but on a similar note - whats the downside for installing DCs with Adapter Teaming? All I know is that when adapter teaming is enabled, setting

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread Robert Rutherford
2006 12:13 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers Well, I don't think the driving factor is the size of the IT operation in terms of # DC's necessarily. In my small environment (3 x DC, 1 x Exchange, 2 x Fileserver, 1 x Sharepoint),

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-13 Thread Jeff Green
transistor radios ... she dreams of flowers in a field of sunny bungalows" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Falde Sent: 12 July 2006 16:59 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers So

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Ken Schaefer
f Of Kevin Brunson : Sent: Thursday, 13 July 2006 3:00 AM : To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org : Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers : : I have definitely found the hosts file to be useful on servers to keep : them from EVER getting to spyware sites. This guy has a great lis

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Brian Desmond
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:41 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers In the year 2006

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Brian Desmond
ehalf Of Kevin Brunson > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:35 PM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers > > I only surf on the big ones. The small ones just don't catch the waves > right. > > I don't even

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Brian Desmond
adley, > CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:41 AM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers > > In the year 2006.. I hope we are still not making host file entries on > servers and workstat

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Brian Desmond
] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:36 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers   Personally, I've never used that configuration for a DC.  Since being bit in the nt4.0 days (before that really, but ha

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Brian Desmond
Title: Multihomed Domain Controllers That’s fine. You need to do two things:   This needs to be a backup subnet (so no gateway) In the Network Connections explorer window under tools>advanced settings, prioritize your connections with this one being last (this is only necessary if you ne

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Al Mulnick
alf Of *Robert> Rutherford> *Sent:* 12 July 2006 12:57> *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers >>>> No issues, if you...>>>> Go to the TCP/IP settings of the backup network card, click advanced,> goto the DN

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Kevin Brunson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:41 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers In the year 2006.. I hope we are still not making host file entries on servers a

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Freddy HARTONO
On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:41 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers In the year 2006.. I hope we are still not making host file entries on servers and workstations :-) Pet

Re: [OT]Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Matt Hargraves
uly 12, 2006 5:06 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [OT]Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers   I know we're drifting off-topic, but I read this and started thinking: laptops.  Why bother with desktops?   On 7/12/06, Matt Hargraves < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [OT]Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Al Mulnick
ail.activedir.org Subject: [OT]Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers   I know we're drifting off-topic, but I read this and started thinking: laptops.  Why bother with desktops?   On 7/12/06, Matt Hargraves < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not so sure I agree with that.  Thin cl

RE: [OT]Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Kurt Falde
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 5:06 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [OT]Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers   I know we're drifting off-topic, but I read this and started thinking: laptops.  Why b

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Kevin Brunson
way from multihomed domain controllers to Citrix and desktops vs. thin clients.       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Hargraves Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain

[OT]Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Al Mulnick
I know we're drifting off-topic, but I read this and started thinking: laptops.  Why bother with desktops?   On 7/12/06, Matt Hargraves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not so sure I agree with that.  Thin clients work just fine, require less maintenance and can be replaced in 5 minutes, vs. the 3 hour

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Matt Hargraves
Not so sure I agree with that.  Thin clients work just fine, require less maintenance and can be replaced in 5 minutes, vs. the 3 hour argument that you'll get if you try replacing someone's desktop because they saved 19 items that have nothing to do with their job on the local hard drive. Then

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Kevin Brunson
ED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:45 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers You surf on your servers? My servers go to WU/MU...and maybe to Joe's blog for information on Def

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
r.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers In the year 2006.. I hope we are still not making host file entries on servers and workstations :-) Peter Johnson wrote: You might want to then create entries in the host file on the backup server so that you guarantee that the

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Rocky Habeeb
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Deji AkomolafeSent: 12 July, 2006 12:29 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers Susan,   there are still valid reasons for using hosts

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Kevin Brunson
.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers In the year 2006.. I hope we are still not making host file entries on servers and workstations :-) Peter Johnson wrote: > You might want to then create entries in the host file on the backup > server so that you guarantee that

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Deji Akomolafe
rectory Serviceswww.readymaids.com - we know ITwww.akomolafe.com -5.75, -3.23Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]Sent: Wed 7/12/2006 8:40 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread joe
about Defending Security Infrastructures. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:41 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Kurt Falde
06 11:41 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers In the year 2006.. I hope we are still not making host file entries on servers and workstations :-) Peter Johnson wrote: > You might want to then create entries in the host file on the

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Robert Rutherford *Sent:* 12 July 2006 12:57 *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers No issues

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Matt Hargraves
I've never seen a problem with doing this stuff before and there are actually some backup solution providers that recommend using a paralell network for backup data to transmit across.That being said, I think the most important thing for you to make sure that you're *not* doing is testing it out on

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Paul Williams
From: Jeff Green To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers Hi Guys,         Many thanks to all that have responded (and so quickly !)   Points / clarifi

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Al Mulnick
ED] W: www.quostar.com                 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: 12 July 2006 14:36 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers   Personally, I've never used that configuration for a DC.  Since being

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Kevin Brunson
Title: Multihomed Domain Controllers The one gotcha I have seen (only once though), was that somehow multihoming a 2000 DC corrupted a couple of registry keys.  I think KB 888048 appeared a few days after the 8 hour phone call with MS.  Basically the dc no longer had a DNS name.  Needless t

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Susan Bradley
Depends on your support engineers... mullihomed DCs are quite typical to the SBS CSS engineer  :-)    The KB in the 2000 era that we had tattooed to our foreheads due to our two nic DCs was this one http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;292822Al Mulnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Robert Rutherford
@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers Personally, I've never used that configuration for a DC.  Since being bit in the nt4.0 days (before that really, but hate to show the age :) I've had architectural reasons to not do that.  Since AD is made up of a multi-master fabr

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Al Mulnick
Personally, I've never used that configuration for a DC.  Since being bit in the nt4.0 days (before that really, but hate to show the age :) I've had architectural reasons to not do that.  Since AD is made up of a multi-master fabric, I have had no reason at all to require an isolated network dedic

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Robert Rutherford
@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers Hi Guys,         Many thanks to all that have responded (and so quickly !)   Points / clarifications / additional Qs       a)    DNS multihomed issues       Yes, found that in the MS KB about not

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Jeff Green
Title: Multihomed Domain Controllers Hi Guys,         Many thanks to all that have responded (and so quickly !)   Points / clarifications / additional Qs       a)    DNS multihomed issues       Yes, found that in the MS KB about not "registering this connection in DNS" o

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Mark Parris
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 07:28:01 To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers Looks like SP1 fixes the DNS issue with replaces a few DNS files -- At this point Windows 2003 SP1 should be a minimum.  Good find -   Chuck    

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread ChuckGaff
Looks like SP1 fixes the DNS issue with replaces a few DNS files -- At this point Windows 2003 SP1 should be a minimum.  Good find -   Chuck    

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Peter Johnson
Rutherford Sent: 12 July 2006 12:57 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers   No issues, if you...   Go to the TCP/IP settings of the backup network card, click advanced, goto the DNS tab and untick register the connection in DNS.   Cheers,   Rob

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread neil.ruston
Title: Multihomed Domain Controllers I'd search around and do some research and testing. A quick Google search uncovered this within seconds...   http://support.microsoft.com/?id=832478   The browser service is notoriously flaky in multi homed environments, too.     neil From: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread ChuckGaff
There were known issues with NT 4.0 with WINS resolution for when WINS packets were lost trying to return through the 2nd NIC using multi-homed DCs.  But I've have heard that this isn't the case in Windows 2000/2003.  Otherwise you are probably OK but double-check DNS as well per the other email.

RE: [ActiveDir] Multihomed Domain Controllers

2006-07-12 Thread Robert Rutherford
Title: Multihomed Domain Controllers No issues, if you...   Go to the TCP/IP settings of the backup network card, click advanced, goto the DNS tab and untick register the connection in DNS.   Cheers,   Rob     Robert RutherfordQuoStar Solutions Limit