If you delete the primary volume, doesn't the copy pool data get
released also?
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Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:20 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Shared Tape Library
I have a new 3584. Before now, we were using STK Powderhorns. I have the
following setup:
tsmlibm owns the library, which has one drive in it - rmt14
tsmu defines the library as shared
would ping very hard on Tivoli to get an answer, and keep raising the
priority on the problem until you get one.
10 hours to restart is a SERIOUS availability problem!
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in size. It was 5.1% full. The restart
took 10 hours!. I have noticed this with various releases of TSM, so
this is not new. I talked to TSM about it before, and did not get any
good answers. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Would Roll
Forward DB mode help? Thanks for any info.
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Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:20 PM
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Subject: TSM Long Restart Time
Wehave had a problem over the years with LONG TSM restart times if the
recovery log has anything in it. Here is what we are running:
AIX 5.1 ML4+ Running
The load, in my experience, takes about half the time as the unload.
Since all the work is done on the unload, I still don't understand why a
load takes so much longer than a restore.
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Yuhico, Alexandra wrote:
thank you daniel.
in that case i may as well push through with
I know this is a little late, but here is what we did. I changed from
copying my primary pool from 9840's to 3592. I then let attrition
whittle down the 9840 pool until such time as I thought the copy might
get done in a reasonable amount of time, then did a copy and deleted the
rest of the 9840
I don't see reclaimstgpool as an option on copy storage pools - am I
missing something?
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, Lee, Gary D. wrote:
I would use the suggestion of redirecting the destination of your storage pools to
the new devclass for 3592s.
Another option is to create the new pools as orvile
If you have enough scratch tapes, you could consider colocation by
filespace, then divide the filespaces roughly by size into 8 groups (or
however many tape drives you want to assign) and start 8 restores. They
would be guaranteed to be on separate tapes becuase of the collocation.
On Wed, 23
I have a strange problem that I just noticed today - I have not seen it
happen before. TSM 5.2.1.1 on AIX 5.1ML4. I noticed that by tape to
tape backup was backing up more data than usual. My script issued the
command
backup stgpool backuppool copy3592 maxpr=2 wait=no
to do the disk to
I feel a little sheepish - The log output I save in a file does not have
the ANR2032E message that I found in the actlog, so at least now I have
something to go on. Thanks.
One thing that appens during that time is that the TSM server is
downloading directory entries to the client, to sort through and decide
what to back up. With millions of entries (which it appears you have),
it can take awhile. We had a situation with a terribly fragmented DB,
where this pause
That is a good question. We just did the same thing, and I was thinking
there should be a better way to do it.
On Wed, 9 Jun 2004, David Nicholson wrote:
As luck would have it, the nodes I moved were large file servers and my
copy pool is not collocated. I probably have data spread across 600
Does any have, or know of, existing TSM presentations? I am tasked with
giving a basic TSM presentation to manager and application types, and I
just don't have any idea where to start. Thanks for any information.
Andy Carlson|\ _,,,---,,_
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You are correct, there is no log information. What is happening is, as
someone here surmised, the DB is being formatted. I normally get
messages while it is formatting, if I remember right, but it does take a
long time. I am on AIX though, not Windows.
Andy Carlson
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Remeta
on all the
volumes in the onsite pool, but need to know if the files marked damaged
will be backed up again.
Thanks for any info.
Andy Carlson
If an active file is marked damaged by audit volume, is the file backed
up at the next opportunity?
We have a situation where at least one tape that had undiscovered
damaged files was copied to a copypool tape. Those files are not
recoverable at this time. We are contemplating a full audit on
Group
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The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.
Andy Carlson
tomorrow, but thought
I would poll the experts first.
Andy Carlson
I created a little script to compare the occupancy of the onsite tape
pool (backcart) and copy pool (copy3592). Here is the script:
select sum(physical_mb)/1024 as BACKCART GB from occupancy where
stgpool_name='BACKCART'
select sum(physical_mb)/1024 as COPY3592 GB from occupancy where
Richard,
That is right on. I knew it had to be something simple. I copy the
disk pool before migration, and then sync up the tape pools. But, I
migrate down to 1%, and there was about 40GB of data still in the disk
pool that got copied, but not migrated. I knew it had to be something
simple,
this? Thanks.
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I would be interested in that. We are adding 3592 drives, mainly for
the offsite pool right now, and I have been working through this myself.
Thanks.
Andy Carlson|\ _,,,---,,_
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Yes, thank you that is perfect.
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. Oh, the clients are Windows 2000, clients are 5.2.0.3.
The TSM server si 5.2.1.1.
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about
3.5GB of memory in the cache. I don't think I can go much higher, but
I will try it if I can.
P.S. The TSMI clients are Windows and Netware, the TSMU are Unix and a
couple of VMS.
Thanks for the input.
Andy Carlson|\ _,,,---,,_
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I'll supply as much information as anyone wants if they have any clues
about what could be going on. I will take a look at the current
performance book, but I have looked at it in the past.
Andy Carlson|\ _,,,---,,_
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, but not sure
When we split TSMI and TSMU, we created the TSMU instance, and did a
full backup on all the servers that moved there. The TSMI database is a
restored copy of the original database, with the TSMU stuff deleted out.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Andy Carlson
?)
Eventually Copy the Old Copypool Tapes to the New Copypool
Am I missing anything? Is there a better way to do it? Thanks for any
information.
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any. Does anyone know how to do this? There doesn't
seem to be anything from the server side, other than maximum mount
points. Thanks.
Andy Carlson|\ _,,,---,,_
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Already thought of that, though I should have included it in the email.
The mount retentions is 0, which works fine for the processes which kick
down the tapes as soon as they are done.
Andy Carlson|\ _,,,---,,_
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ML2 upgraded to ML4
TSM 5.2.1.1
Gresham EDT Distributape 6.4.4
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I did this for a subset of our clients, mainly the Unix clients, because
they were more copperative than the Intel clients.
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of the original instance, but the database shrunk
negligibly, so I think we need a reorg. Again, but, we have Legato Disk
Extender users who don't wish for us to be down for an extended period
doing a reorg. Thanks for any information.
Andy Carlson
While that may be true, in this instance, we deleted fully half or more
of the DB, and feel it would be good to do once.
Andy Carlson|\ _,,,---,,_
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Sorry to bother you again.
I mentioned the small file/directory file speedups here as a reason to
upgrade, but I cannot find the APAR that appears to fix that. Do you
know the APAR number for that fix so I can read the text? Thanks.
Andy Carlson
2. Before doing the delete volhistory, do a query volhistory and save it
in a file.
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Are you saying there are significant speed increases in 5.2? Thanks for
the info!
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What experiences have you had with V5.2, on AIX if possible? Was it
5.2.01 or 5.2.0.2? TSM support recommended going to 5.1.7.2, but I
don't have the 5.1.7.0 media, but I have 5 copies of 5.2.0, so I was
thinking about doing that instead. Thanks.
Andy Carlson
So that we don't have to have our network people run sniffer traces,
could you tell us what you set the MTU to? Is it something smaller than
the normal 1500? Was this on the client side or the TSM server side?
Thanks.
Andy Carlson|\ _,,,---,,_
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How has 5.1.7.2 treated everyone? It was suggested by TSM support that
I upgrade to this version from 5.1.5.4 to fix a hang problem. Thanks.
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the backup tries to back the file up. We did figure out
we could probably exclude the files, but what we would like is for TSM
not to give a non-zero return code what a file is not found. Thanks for
any input into this matter.
Andy Carlson
of failed backups maybe? Thanks for any input.
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I do something like this, but what I do in a script is, if the
reclamation threshold is not 100, and there is no offsite reclamation
process running, I lower the reclamaiton threshold by 1. I also have a
lower limit in the script.
Andy Carlson
: TSMIdel fi BJCECHO01 \\bjcecho01\e$
ANR0852E DELETE FILESPACE: No matching file spaces found for node
BJCECHO01.
ANS8001I Return code 11.
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Jezz, what a needle head. I completely forgot it was under adsm, not
tivoli. Thanks for the info.
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or help.
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Cat Pics
I'm sure you've checked this, but I get tapes that go into readonly mode
when they get a write error. Most of the time, I can just make the tape
readwrite again, and it goes on it's merry way.
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We have given this a little bit of thought also. You would not need to
use type=file - just enlarge your current disk pool. Expire will age
the files out of there. The only thing to watch, is for it to be
getting full, and more disk needs to be added.
Andy Carlson
I have looked at MyODBC, and confess I do not yet understand all of it,
but it looks like it needs a driver for a database. Does it have a
TSM Database driver? I could not fine one. Thanks.
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Is there an ODBC driver for Unix and Mysql?
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run them from the terminal, or from cron. Server is
5.1.5.4. Thanks.
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I should have mentioned that I tried it unmirrored (log and db) also.
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Do not extend the DB before doing the delete dbvol. The delete command
uses the empty, enextended space to move the data from the volumes to be
deleted.
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I just tried this on our test system, to be sure I wasn't talking out my
ass, and I have done this before. To delete a dbvol that has data in
it, TSM needs unexteneded space to copy it in to. If you extend the db,
that is used space to tsm. Try this on your system, please
Andy Carlson
this?)
The advantage is that if I cannot load the DB for some reason, I still
have my other mirror that I could update the dsmserv.dsk file and
restart TSM. Is this feasible? Thanks.
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. Any ideas? What are
other people doing? Thanks.
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Maybe I need to investigate this further. I am only related what my
Netware people told me. Maybe there is another change in the file that
is screwing it up.
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utility to turn the archive bits back
on? Thanks.
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Cat
-c AIX /tmp/proc.out`
if [ $temp = 0 ]; then
/usr/bin/mailx user@email /usr/local/adsmdown
fi
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It really depends on more than that - it also depends on how much time
in the day you have for reclamation. I rarely get to the 90%
reclaimable tapes before I have to stop reclamation.
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, because of the tape drive per session requirement.
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and inactive data, so you could potentially be copying much more
data than you need for the restore.
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#2 is not the panacea that it sounds like. The dual writes to the
copypool's happens during session data transfer to disk pool - thus, you
must have a tape drive per session doing the dual write.
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Check the audit volume command. I do audit volumes on any tape volume
that hasn't been mounted in 60 days, unless of course it is offsite.
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. Thanks for any
info.
P.S. I searched msgs.adsm.org and could not find what I was looking
for.
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it might be normal, until I saw that
a Win2K server can handle that load.
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Yes, I meant 2 1-gigabit adapters.
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We had problems like this, that seemed to have no common thread, until
we realized that expiration was running at each incident. It was
suggested that we upgrade to 4.1.4.4, and we have been fine since (it
also fixed a 9840 tape drive dismount problem).
Andy Carlson
The other thing that has bitten us, is not the number of sessions, but
the oldest session. We have had backup sessions running 10 hours or
more, pinning log data. This pinned log data does not allow the log to
shrink, even if you perform a database backup.
Andy Carlson
? I cannot find a dsmserv commit command or
anything like that. Thanks for any info.
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weeks ago, and I lost abou 120GB of
data.
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might be better, as ADSM can schedule across
these volumes. What I am seeing leads me to believe that ADSM is
hitting one volume, and it's mirror predominately. Was I better off
striped? Any suggestions? Thanks for any info.
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I feel the same about staying at 3.7.4. Our expiration times have
quadrupled or more, everything seems slower. I had a crash and a hang
problem alreay (fixed at 4.1.4.4). Oh well, things will get better.
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I had a similar problem, that seems to have been fixed by goint to
4.1.4.4. It had to do with expiration of archive files.
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think of right now. Thanks for any information that
can be provided.
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Is there any literature, or has anyone experimented with, stripe sizes
on disk storage pools? I am striping, trying to get better performance,
but I am unsure about how to actually measure the performance, or what
to compare it to. Thanks for any information.
Andy Carlson
I have noticed a great extension in the time it takes to do expiration
in 4.1.3. I upgraded from 3.7.4, where expiration took 12-16
hours. Now it is taking 72 or more hours. Has anyone else seen
this? Thanks.
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AIX 4.3.3 ML08 on an S7A.
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Cache hit ratio is fine, but I did not realize the default changed. I
will change that and try it. We are also upgrading to 4.1.4.4 today per
Support for another problem. Thanks.
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, and I had to do an emergency extend) that setting it
to normal mode, then back to roll-forward allowed the next incremental
or full to clear the log. Has anyone seen this? Thanks for any info.
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Sorry, I should have said the fast write cache failed. It failed twice
within a three week period.
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Does that work for Raid? What about fast write? How would the caches
update each other?
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One comment about the raid - we got away from SSA hardware raid after we
had two SSA card failures that caused the loss of the database. If I
were forced to use raid, I would have the second copy, and put the raids
on separate SSA cards.
Andy Carlson
We only had one card. I can't tell you exactly why we lost it. The
raid came up offline, and after hours on the phone with IBM, they said
basically, that I was screwed, the raid was toast.
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My daily processing migrates my disk pool down to 10% full
(apporximately), so I know the next day by how full my disk pool is how
much I backed up. It becomes harder if your disk pool fills up in the
night, and start migrating while still backing up.
Andy Carlson
We back up about 350GB per night on weeknights, with the occasional
400-420GB.
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UNNAMED or UNKNOWN, messages do not come out
correctly, I can't start new sessions, etc. This is fairly repeatable
behaviour. I am at 3.7.4. Thanks.
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I am running it as root, with no limit. I have 4GB real memory, and 3GB
of paging space, 1% used.
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I have had very good luck so far with 3.7.4. I think it fixed some
performance problems with the database.
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driver, and it still did not work with the GENERICTAPE
driver. The IBM'er admitted that they had not tested the fix with ATDD.
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, but you have to keep an open mind. Bad things creep in once
in a while.
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