Well, I started the thread, so I thought I'd report on my progress since
the original post. I've managed to come across a very capable IBM
Business Partner and Tivoli Sales rep. It made all the difference in the
world. My software and DB2 reps at IBM found the good Tivoli people, and
the Tivol
This is dis-heartening, confusing, agravating, etc.
When it comes to unix and Windows-NT/2K/XP I don't know if its a client or
a server. And until hearing this I didn't care. Only cared about how
much data in how many changed files they were sending me.
So when the 5001 free clients are take
sage-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Richard L. Rhodes
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:06 AM
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I agree.
The last time we needed to order more client licenses it was
impossible to get someone
I agree.
The last time we needed to order more client licenses it was
impossible to get someone from Tivoli to even talk to us. We wanted
to spend money, but they wouldn't respond to emails or voice mails.
I found this amazing! I had to get our local IBM storage rep to
contact Tivoli before the
billing . . .
I wish IBM would pull TSM back from Tivoli -- or stand on Tivoli marketing
and support.
Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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>And TIVOLI DOES NOTHING TO CLEAN UP THE MESS, which is pretty
>representative
>of Tivoli corps behavior since taking over marketing of this
>first class
>product.
Wanda,
Nicely put..I would have used the expletives though.
Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
E-
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LOU GERSTNER, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING WHEN YOUR TURNED YOUR ADSM CUSTOMERS
OVER TO TIVOLI??!???
My opinions and nobody else's.
Wanda Prather
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MONTHS!
Thanks.
Tab
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Paul / Steve,
By that definition, one would not need a purchased license for
"workstations" since the four-point license is for tier-1 servers. Yet
we've had t
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You are correct, that is the definition of workstation vs server.
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Dwight,
>Looking into things you realize that on 20 existing machines you have
>NEVER use software distribution SO you just drop it from those
>20 machine
Dwight,
>Looking into things you realize that on 20 existing machines you have
>NEVER use software distribution SO you just drop it from those
>20 machines and use the "freed points" to apply towards TSM client &
>TWS points for your new 12 machines.
Unfortunately, I believe that this is n
You are correct, that is the definition of workstation vs server.
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From: Steve Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 6:47 PM
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As I understand it,
if a machine provides a
As I understand it,
if a machine provides a service to other machines then it is a server. If it doesn't
then its a workstation.
So, in the case of your B50, if the DB2 database is only used by users logged in to
that box, its not a server. If its your classic 3 tiered application, but all
co
calculate everything. Do not know where you got the
8 processors as the break point unless that is a recent change.
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Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 8:13 PM
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Can
anaged System for Lan" , or "managed System for San",
not client licenses.
HOpe that helps...
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From: Jeff Rogers
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Sent: 12/7/2001 8:13 PM
Subject: Point system has me very confused
Can somebody help me to understand this point/tier sys
give that old piece of #@$%^ to you and let you take it home
just to get it out of there ;-)
later,
Dwight
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From: Jeff Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 7:13 PM
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Can somebody help me to understand this point/tier system. It understand
that sharing Tivoli pricing information is some kind of no-no, so please
feel free to reply off-list.
What I think I understand so far.
Workstation Clients ???
Tier 1 - 1 ~ 4 processors on Intel 32bit hardware.
Tier 2 -
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