Re: TSM server automation products

2006-04-06 Thread Richard Rhodes
ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent by: ADSM:cc Dist Stor Manager Subject [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: TSM server automation products

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-04-05 Thread Thomas Denier
- Richard Rhodes wrote: - We have successfully used StorServer Manager for automation for a number of years. It works well as long as your processing follows standard way TSM want's to run. At times it gets confused, but in general we have been happy with it. It's worth a look and demo

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-04-04 Thread Schaub, Steve
] On Behalf Of Allen S. Rout Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 1:10 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM server automation products On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:52:52 +0200, Jurjen Oskam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 09:46:00PM -0500, Allen S. Rout wrote: Speaking as someone

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-04-04 Thread Richard Rhodes
We have successfully used StorServer Manager for automation for a number of years. It works well as long as your processing follows standard way TSM want's to run. At times it gets confused, but in general we have been happy with it. It's worth a look and demo try.

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-04-03 Thread Nick Laflamme
At 12:34 AM 4/1/2006 +0200, Jurjen Oskam wrote: Uhm, may I ask *why* you'd want an off-the-shelf product instead of your own code? Is the Perl-code not functioning correctly? What problem are you trying to solve? I can't speak for the original poster, but I've worked for shops that preferred

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-04-03 Thread Thomas Denier
- Jurjen Oskam wrote: - Uhm, may I ask *why* you'd want an off-the-shelf product instead of your own code? Is the Perl-code not functioning correctly? What problem are you trying to solve? Management objections to the current script seem to center on two issues: 1.None of the other

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-04-03 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:52:52 +0200, Jurjen Oskam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 09:46:00PM -0500, Allen S. Rout wrote: Speaking as someone buried in my own PERL up to my nose: [snip: quite a good argument] I don't think I could be as effective with a third-party product

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-04-03 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 10:48:13AM -0400, Thomas Denier wrote: 2.I am spending significant amounts of time on enhancements to the script. Yes, that would be a reason to consider an off-the-shell solution. The Perl-automation here runs more or less autonomic and doesn't require much

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-04-03 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 01:09:35PM -0400, Allen S. Rout wrote: I'll allude to a bit of logical pedantry by suggesting a google of 'beg the question' :) Darn, I /thought/ I got that right. From a Google search: If you're not comfortable with formal terms of logic, it's best to stay away from

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-04-03 Thread Roger Deschner
Back in the days of VM, my favorite automation tool for ADSM was Host Management Facility. Unix cron is a poor substitute, but it's what we've got to work with. I do a majority of my scheduling from within the TSM server with administrative schedules that trigger TSM Scripts. This is a rather poor

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-04-03 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 22:00:52 +0200, Jurjen Oskam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Our TSM environment is too small to justify that niceness, since the Perl-code keeps everything running virtually maintenance-free. But yes, I think there are many installations where these off-the-shelf products really

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-04-02 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 09:46:00PM -0500, Allen S. Rout wrote: Speaking as someone buried in my own PERL up to my nose: [snip: quite a good argument] I don't think I could be as effective with a third-party product as I am with my own stuff. I do think that the person who gets my job

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-04-01 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 00:34:21 +0200, Jurjen Oskam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Uhm, may I ask *why* you'd want an off-the-shelf product instead of your own code? Is the Perl-code not functioning correctly? What problem are you trying to solve? Speaking as someone buried in my own PERL up to my

TSM server automation products

2006-03-31 Thread Thomas Denier
My site has a rather large Perl script that controls the daily housekeeping cycle (storage pool backups, database backups, tape movement, and so on). The script also detects a variety of error conditions and reports them to our operations staff. My management is convinced that we can buy an off

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-03-31 Thread Park, Rod
. What do you have that is so complex that it has to be scripted outside of TSM's functionality. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Denier Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 12:23 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM server

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-03-31 Thread Bob Martoncik
We run the DRM product for TSM. That controls the offsite tape rotation and generates daily DR plans. With the Operational reporting that comes with TSM 5.2, it is a start. The overall reporting structure within TSM is bad to say the least. The operational reporting tool will email you various

Re: TSM server automation products

2006-03-31 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 01:23:11PM -0500, Thomas Denier wrote: error conditions and reports them to our operations staff. My management is convinced that we can buy an off the shelf product that will replace 80 percent of the Perl code. Does such a product exist? Uhm, may I ask *why* you'd