Re: [AFMUG] Verizon hotspot - for access to towersite?

2018-12-27 Thread TJ Trout
500 NRC per sim On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 3:19 PM Tim Withrow via AF wrote: > Yes, you are right. I had to go look back at the original bill. The 500 > bucks is a one time setup fee for however many statics ip's you require for > your various byod, like cradlepoints or Verizon's devices. There is

Re: [AFMUG] Battery charger + load

2018-12-27 Thread Bill Prince
I think the ones you're thinking about have "BCM" in the model number (for Battery Charge Monitor or something like that). Most of the ones I know about are made by Altech or Phoenix Contact, or a few others. Finding one that works for 12VDC is a bit of an odd duck; we are almost always look

Re: [AFMUG] Battery charger + load

2018-12-27 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, there's this: https://www.trcelectronics.com/View/Mean-Well/DRC-100A.shtml The Meanwell stuff is pretty basic... Traco makes some that are a bit more advanced with temperature compensation and that kind of thing, but I think those are just a battery charger/ups module that need a separate po

[AFMUG] Battery charger + load

2018-12-27 Thread chuck
I know it has been mentioned many times before, but I cannot remember if it is a Meanwell product or not. In my splicing trailer, I have a nice 12 volt DC fuse panel in addition to the 120/240 panel. The 12 volts runs LED overhead interior lights, porch light, furnace (I bought the one Bill re

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon hotspot - for access to towersite?

2018-12-27 Thread Tim Withrow via AF
Yes, you are right. I had to go look back at the original bill. The 500 bucks is a one time setup fee for however many statics ip's you require for your various  byod, like cradlepoints or Verizon's devices. There is no recurring charges for ip's thereafter. Also you could use a VPN and port

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread chuck
Grew up with AM. Didn’t know the difference. Never had a hifi. Just an old mono record player and a stack of ancient 78 rpm records. 8 track was my first stereophonic media. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 3:26 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
At some point I was disappointed to discover that a lot of classic rock songs that sound great on the car radio, actually sound no better or even worse on a good sound system. It seems like they were recorded specifically for playing on boomboxes and AM car radios. You know the songs I’m ta

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Josh Baird
"No highs, no lows.. it must be Bose." On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 4:09 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Bose has good marketing and not a lot else. > > On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 2:49 PM Josh Baird wrote: > >> Bose car audio (and home audio) is pretty terrible and far from

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Jason McKemie
Bose has good marketing and not a lot else. On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 2:49 PM Josh Baird wrote: > Bose car audio (and home audio) is pretty terrible and far from accurate > in most cars. I just bought a new car that has Bose ‘premium’ audio, and > it sounds like absolute crap compared to my old c

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Josh Baird
Bose car audio (and home audio) is pretty terrible and far from accurate in most cars. I just bought a new car that has Bose ‘premium’ audio, and it sounds like absolute crap compared to my old car which had the premium HK stock system. ... but, I’m sort of an audiophile, so most people probab

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Quality sounds great to me. But of course I've had Bose audio in all the cars with XM. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 9:21 AM Adair Winter wrote: > quality varies across some of the stations I've noticed,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Radio astronomers hate xm. Like having a searchlight in their face. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 27, 2018, at 11:58 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller > wrote: > > > I agree. Slightly better. We're too far out from most "big" fm stations to > continuously get HD channels tho. > we're 60 miles from most

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Bill Prince
Similar. Broadcast radio gets limited play time primarily due to the excess commercials. Sirius/XM died on launch (for me) simply because it was so unreliable. I find that the thing I listen to most often are poscasts. I think I have about 15 or 16 of them in my q

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I agree. Slightly better. We're too far out from most "big" fm stations to continuously get HD channels tho. we're 60 miles from most big cities. - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 10:12 AM Subj

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
i think the drop outs are due to tall trees. we still occasionally get them but its not as bad as it was with earlier versions - Original Message - From: Bill Prince To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio We've ha

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
yah, for us audiophiles, the audio is compressed and horrible. but i guess it does come in handy when traveling. it seems to be a christmas present i get every year... lol - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppes To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Sent: Thursday, December 27,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
My experience back when I had a XM receiver in place was that the Music stations were tolerable compression, the Talk ones were good for talk. Sounded a lot like old time FM and AM quality, not the newer higher quality broadcasts one gets today with HD FM and the like. Once I found spotify, I qui

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Jason McKemie
I've been having the same issue Mark. On Thursday, December 27, 2018, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > I have an audio issue with Fox, but it’s not related to the bitrate. > > Mark > > On Dec 27, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Matt Hoppes rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > > Not judging here :). You seriously don’t n

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower

2018-12-27 Thread Carl Peterson
We've just started using Clearfield pre-made pushable or strong fiber spools pulled through 10/6 duct up to the radio. We use BiDi so just one strand but if you wanted a feed to a tower top they could make you MPO cables that you could route to a YourX terminal up top through 14/10. I wish someon

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Mathew Howard
Yep, there's a huge difference between digital and analog FM. The quality of XM definitely varies a lot between some of the channels... or at least it did back when I had it. On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 10:26 AM wrote: > Yes, if you tune off of a channel and then back on, you can hear analog > for

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread James Howard
I’ve had XM for the last year but mostly only listen to Ch 148 Radio Classics. The “no commercials” is false advertising in my opinion. They mostly advertise for themselves but I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard Chuck McDowell going on about “the truth about timeshares”. The fact that

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread chuck
Yes, if you tune off of a channel and then back on, you can hear analog for a second or three before it locks into the digital. Very easy to hear the difference. From: Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:17 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Rad

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread David Hannum
Well, I'm down here in the hills and trees of SE Ohio and the AM/FM options are limited. Compared to the drop outs, static and limited selection we have here, XM is OK by me! Dave On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:12 AM Darin Steffl wrote: > > For those who say the sound of XM sounds good, you might n

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Darin Steffl
Chuck, do you mean HD FM? That definitely sounds very clear the few times I've heard it. Analog FM is still way better than XM On Thu, Dec 27, 2018, 10:14 AM How do you feel about digital FM? Sounds better to me than analog. > > *From:* Darin Steffl > *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:09 AM

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread chuck
How do you feel about digital FM? Sounds better to me than analog. From: Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio For those who say the sound of XM sounds good, you might not have the ear to hear bad versus

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Darin Steffl
For those who say the sound of XM sounds good, you might not have the ear to hear bad versus good audio. I've listened to XM in GM vehicles with Bose speakers, Honda with premium audio, etc and no matter the brand or year model it has sounded super compressed and shitty. FM and Spotify via Bluetoot

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon hotspot - for access to towersite?

2018-12-27 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/27/18 7:32 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Tim, All I have found for an option through Verizon was a 500 dollar one time setup charge through their business sales team to setup the static and then a monthly charge of around 50$. ATT has a new business plan for 55$ a month comes with a stati

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Matt Hoppes
Yes. The drop outs too. I was listening to a talk program this morning on a 30 minute drive. Had like 4 or 5, 15-20 second audio drops. The concept is interesting. The execution seems poor. > On Dec 27, 2018, at 10:52, David Hannum wrote: > > Your experiences with XM are interesting. Whil

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread David Hannum
Your experiences with XM are interesting. While I don't have it in any of my company vehicles, I have it in both of my personal vehicles, and I love it. I don't experience any of the drop offs or compression sounding. Not sure why. But for $9.95/mo for basic, we really like it - especially for

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Chuck Hogg
That's why I use Spotify...SiriusXM sucks IMO. On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 10:39 AM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > lol. Ok. So I’m not alone on this. > > On Dec 27, 2018, at 10:04, Darin Steffl wrote: > > Yes the quality is shit. BUT, the people that pay for it love it bec

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Bill Prince
We've had 4 vehicles in the last ten years that came with a 6-month trial version of Sirius/XM. We've never signed up, and actually after the first day, we've never listened to it. The problem we have is the drop outs. They last 10-30 seconds, and are quite frequent. Piece of crap if you ask me

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Matt Hoppes
Why can’t you tell people to swap their radios? GM told me I had to swap my onstar because the cell network they used was no longer supported. Comcast tells me I have to upgrade my modem. The water company is coming Monday to upgrade my water meter. > On Dec 27, 2018, at 10:11, Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Matt Hoppes
lol. Ok. So I’m not alone on this. > On Dec 27, 2018, at 10:04, Darin Steffl wrote: > > Yes the quality is shit. BUT, the people that pay for it love it because it's > available everywhere and has so many channels. Unfortunately, I can barely > listen to it with how compressed it is. I stream

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-27 Thread Donnie McCorkle
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Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-27 Thread Mike Hammett
Designed for single-device (or more if mesh\repeater\etc.) is needed vs. assuming a large ecosystem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Rory Conaway" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users G

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon hotspot - for access to towersite?

2018-12-27 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Tim, All I have found for an option through Verizon was a 500 dollar one time setup charge through their business sales team to setup the static and then a monthly charge of around 50$. ATT has a new business plan for 55$ a month comes with a static and 3mbps download “unlimited”. How did yo

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-27 Thread dave
We are doing the pure cambium solution using the cnmaestro with all of it is AWESOME! Inventory track is easier with a simple hand scanner products come in and get scanned straight to cnmaestro where they wait to on boarded. On 12/21/18 5:01 PM, David Coudron wrote: We have been running in

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower

2018-12-27 Thread dave
We use Bestronics custom hybrid cable pre-terminated armor direct bury type. Has 1 pair 12awg stranded and 2 pair SM or MM strands. Been doing it for a while with no issues. Just did 250 full medusa install with DDB cabinet topside for all terminations to go. On 12/20/18 2:02 PM, SmarterBro

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
My wife and son had cars that came with 6 months free, but I don’t think they used it or paid to keep it, and I’ve never listened to it. But I have always heard that the quality was poor and the reason to get it was no commercials, nationwide coverage, and channels dedicated to one kind of musi

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread David Coudron
I don’t listen to Fox that much, my wife is a pretty avid listener, but doesn’t comment much on the quality of the sound. However, when listening to it, I don’t hear any sound issues (but my ears aren’t what they used to be 😊).For the music types that I listen to, I haven’t heard much diff

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I have an audio issue with Fox, but it’s not related to the bitrate. Mark > On Dec 27, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Matt Hoppes > wrote: > > Not judging here :). You seriously don’t notice a bitrate audio issue > listening to Fox? The talk stations are worse than the music stations. > > On Dec 27, 20

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Darin Steffl
Yes the quality is shit. BUT, the people that pay for it love it because it's available everywhere and has so many channels. Unfortunately, I can barely listen to it with how compressed it is. I stream spotify over bluetooth in my car and it's way better quality. I think FM sounds better than XM by

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Matt Hoppes
Not judging here :). You seriously don’t notice a bitrate audio issue listening to Fox? The talk stations are worse than the music stations. > On Dec 27, 2018, at 09:51, David Coudron wrote: > > I would agree that the music seems to be pretty high quality. Specifically, > there are some so

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread David Coudron
I would agree that the music seems to be pretty high quality. Specifically, there are some songs that get into the pretty low bass frequencies that seem to demonstrate pretty decent range for sound quality. Again, it might make a difference on which stations you are listening to, but the soun

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Depends on the channel. Truckers seem to like it. Me, I am too cheap. FM is free and NPR doesn’t have too many commercial breaks. I have three presets: NPR, classic rock, contemporary c&w Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 27, 2018, at 7:11 AM, Adair Winter wrote: > > because no commercials and th

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I listen almost exclusively to music and it sounds high quality to me. I don't know if it matters but I'm listening to modern music. On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 9:21 AM Adair Winter wrote: > quality varies across some of the stations I've noticed, depends on what > you are listening to. talk radio i

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Adair Winter
quality varies across some of the stations I've noticed, depends on what you are listening to. talk radio is worse than some of the music channels. On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 8:17 AM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > But. The quality. Also Fox Headlines had commercials :( > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Matt Hoppes
But. The quality. Also Fox Headlines had commercials :( > On Dec 27, 2018, at 09:11, Adair Winter wrote: > > because no commercials and the same stations everywhere it pretty cool. > > >> On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 8:00 AM Matt Hoppes >> wrote: >> We just got a new vehicle at work that includes

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Adair Winter
because no commercials and the same stations everywhere it pretty cool. On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 8:00 AM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > We just got a new vehicle at work that includes XM radio for some period > of time for free. > > Anyone else who’s had experience with

[AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-27 Thread Matt Hoppes
We just got a new vehicle at work that includes XM radio for some period of time for free. Anyone else who’s had experience with XM: does it always sound like it’s compressed, digital and low fidelity? Why would anyone pay a subscription for this when I get high-fidelity FM free? -- AF mail

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-27 Thread Rory Conaway
What is the advantage of Calix versus Unifi? Rory From: AF On Behalf Of David Coudron Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 12:02 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi Chuck, We’d be pretty interested in that. Love to see that happen. Cory, ca