Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-28 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Bose is excellent at Turd-Polishing. Let me explain: Where a traditional provider might go and buy proper drivers with good response throughout the frequency range, and take care in designing a crossover, etc, when designing a speaker, Bose is more about taking reasonably ok speaker elements and

Re: [AFMUG] Battery charger + load

2018-12-28 Thread Robert Andrews
For some of my low power sites I actually use their OpenUPS http://www.mini-box.com/OpenUPS?sc=8&category=1264 Hooked to a Pi Board which I modified the linux driver to get the stats off the OpenUPS ( their drivers where failing with my version of linux )... Then power it off the USB port fr

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-28 Thread Darin Steffl
Yes I meant for all new routers deployed to be Calix. And if/when you see issues with current routers, upgrade them to Calix. We had about 350 cnpilot routers in the field and we're down to 120 left to migrate. You can go as fast or slow as you want to. You should find the Calix has much better co

Re: [AFMUG] Battery charger + load

2018-12-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
Lots of cool looking stuff on that page. But didn’t Chuck say he wanted to run an RV space heater off this 12V? That sounds like a bunch of watts. From: AF On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 6:16 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Bill Prince Subject: Re: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] Battery charger + load

2018-12-28 Thread TJ Trout
http://www.mini-box.com/picoUPS-100-12V-DC-micro-UPS-system-battery-backup-system?sc=8&category=1264 On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 7:15 AM wrote: > Yep, that is what I am looking for, but it sure isn’t cheap is it. > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2018 7:51 PM > *To:* AnimalFar

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Rocket's

2018-12-28 Thread Mathew Howard
No, ePMP 3000 is 5ghz only. On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 5:12 PM CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > in 2.4 ghz too? > > - Original Message - > *From:* Mathew Howard > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2018 11:25 AM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Rocket's > > I've

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Rocket's

2018-12-28 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
in 2.4 ghz too? - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Rocket's I've only used sync on the 2.4ghz Rockets, but it seems to work reasonably well. But if it's a qu

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Rocket's

2018-12-28 Thread Ryan Ray
I'd be interested to see https://mimosa.co/product/n5-45 hooked up to an emp3000 On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 9:27 AM Mathew Howard wrote: > I've only used sync on the 2.4ghz Rockets, but it seems to work reasonably > well. > > But if it's a question of more capacity, ePMP 3000 should be available an

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-28 Thread David Coudron
Thanks for the offer of help Darin, we may take you up on that.Our head is kind of in the same place, but with so many routers already bought and paid for, it is a really big investment to make if the management part of our current routers isn’t currently killing us. However, there is a pr

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
Also I read somewhere that thermal-magnetic breakers have different trip characteristics at DC vs 60 Hz vs 400 Hz. The magnetic trip part is what changes. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 1:08 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers Y

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-28 Thread Darin Steffl
David, I highly recommend if your testing goes well with Calix (It should or ask us for help), that you choose them for every Managed Router deployment. My head would explode if I had to manage Mikrotik, Calix, Mimosa, Cambium, Amplif routers instead of just Calix like we do today. We want a rout

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread chuck
Yeah, I have had this exact thing bite me in the butt before. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 11:00 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers I prefer to use 2-pole breakers for the batteries. Often, single-pole breakers are polarity sensitive, and since the b

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread Jason McKemie
Would you use an automotive fuse or is there another type that would work better? Do you size fuses as close to the expected current and voltage as possible? On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 11:07 AM wrote: > I would be more comfortable with a fast blowing fuse to protect a DC DC > converter. But like

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread Bill Prince
I prefer to use 2-pole breakers for the batteries. Often, single-pole breakers are polarity sensitive, and since the batteries are both a source and a sink, the polarity will reverse depending. bp On 12/28/2018 9:50 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
Carling is another manufacturer of DC breakers. The Altech V-EA series (part numbers end in UM) are rated 80VDC for the lower amp ratings and 42VDC for the higher amp ratings. They are actually made by Sursum, in Germany maybe, and are sturdier than other Altech breakers. For high current

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-28 Thread David Coudron
We are looking at this more and trying to make a decision which way we’d like to proceed for larger homes. We use the Mimosa G2 block on every deployment today, but there are some limiting factors in larger home deployments. We may not have been doing things correctly, but using the wireless

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Rocket's

2018-12-28 Thread Mathew Howard
I've only used sync on the 2.4ghz Rockets, but it seems to work reasonably well. But if it's a question of more capacity, ePMP 3000 should be available any day now, and it should be capable of a lot more than UBNT AC... On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 10:31 AM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-28 Thread Mike Hammett
Working well is a nice function. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Rory Conaway" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 10:45:35 AM Subject: Re: [AF

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Rocket's

2018-12-28 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, there are lots of good options for 90 degree sectors. The only thing that's going to matter specifically for these radios is going to be mounting the radio... otherwise, all the same things will apply as with any other radios (gain, f/b ratio, etc.). The ePMP sectors are some of the better se

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread Mark Radabaugh
If you are using them between a DC/DC converter I actually wouldn’t put a breaker in. Any decent DC/DC power supply should be self protecting on the output side. Once they reach rated current they either (a) go into current limit and reduce the voltage until the current drops to the rated li

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread chuck
I would be more comfortable with a fast blowing fuse to protect a DC DC converter. But like Ken says, it will probably fold and may not need any protection. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 9:45 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers In t

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Rocket's

2018-12-28 Thread Paul McCall
We would definitely be depending on Sync to work. I thought they were past their sync issues at this point. Yes, serving 50Mbit + plans, LOS, 3 to 4 miles max. (mostly closer) From: AF On Behalf Of Joe Novak Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 11:57 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subje

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Rocket's

2018-12-28 Thread Joe Novak
I really like the pattern on the latest ePMP sector. We may or may not have had to replace a KP antenna or two with them because the KP stopped performing as expected. Old, Gen1/Gen2 5ghz stuff. Probably been in the air for 5 years at this point. Previous to the ePMP sector, I think RF Elements wa

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
In that case you want to make sure the load breakers have a low enough rating that the power supply can actually trip them in case one load gets shorted, since you want the other loads to keep operating. So for example if the DC-DC converter can source 5 amps and you use a bunch of 2 amp breake

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-28 Thread Rory Conaway
Mimosa does 1 repeater, AC Cubes do 2 repeaters at least, and Unifi is unlimited. All 3 of them have cloud management. Why pay a monthly fee if it isn’t necessary? Does Callix have additional features beyond connectivity like blocking torrents or parental controls? Rory From: AF On Behalf

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread Bill Prince
We get breakers that are specifically DC rated for the current we need. If they are DC rated, they will also indicate the maximum operating voltage (typically 48 volts) but you sometimes see higher voltages. Just be sure the ones you get are rated above the voltag

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread Robert
& to throw biz the way of some friends at a better price ( not including shipping )... https://www.wholesalesolar.com/8991041/midnite-solar/breakers/midnite-solar-mndc-gfp63 On 12/28/18 8:11 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I generally use these guys: http://www.midnitesolar.com/products.php?menuIte

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Rocket's

2018-12-28 Thread Jason McKemie
I'm not sure how well sync in working on the Ubiquiti AC gear these days, maybe someone else will chime in. Might want to look at ePMP as well. On Friday, December 28, 2018, Alex Davidson wrote: > Hey guys, > > > > This is our first deployment of the UBNT Rocket Prism (AC gen 2) 5GHz. We > are l

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread Jason McKemie
Thanks everyone. I was a bit confused about the breaker curves as well. I'm actually using these between a DC/DC converter and the devices being powered from it. Was hoping to protect the converter in the event of a short on one of the devices. On Friday, December 28, 2018, Ken Hohhof wrote: > A

[AFMUG] UBNT Rocket's

2018-12-28 Thread Alex Davidson
Hey guys, This is our first deployment of the UBNT Rocket Prism (AC gen 2) 5GHz. We are looking for 4- 90 degree sectors to place on a tower and wanted to know what is the highest capacity product out there to do so. What are some of the pros & cons to these products? What is everyone else usin

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread chuck
Specifically these: http://www.midnitesolar.com/productPhoto.php?product_ID=197&productCatName=Breakers&productCat_ID=16&sortOrder=13&act=p From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 9:11 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers I generally use these g

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread chuck
I generally use these guys: http://www.midnitesolar.com/products.php?menuItem=products&productCat_ID=16&productCatName=Breakers From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 9:05 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers Are you talking the AC or DC voltage r

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
Are you talking the AC or DC voltage rating? DC rating is usually lower, because it is harder to quench the arc when opening the circuit if the polarity doesn’t alternate. It’s usually difficult to find breakers with a DC rating higher than 48 volts. But a higher voltage rating is not a probl

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread chuck
Higher voltage rating is a good thing. AC breakers are simpler because AC goes to zero volts twice each cycle. That gives it a chance for the arc to extinguish when tripping. DC has to be designed to break the arc and higher voltage arcs are harder to break. Just make sure it is rated for at

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread chuck
what he said -Original Message- From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 8:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers Voltage doesn’t matter if the rating is higher than you need. Breaker size should be based on the wire to be protected,

Re: [AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Voltage doesn’t matter if the rating is higher than you need. Breaker size should be based on the wire to be protected, not the equipment. The purpose of the breaker is to protect the wire after the breaker from overheating and catching fire. It’s not necessarily about protecting the equipm

[AFMUG] DC Breakers

2018-12-28 Thread Jason McKemie
Do you generally size these about double the expected load? I see a lot of them rated at higher voltages than I need, will these still be effective? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Battery charger + load

2018-12-28 Thread chuck
Yep, that is what I am looking for, but it sure isn’t cheap is it. From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 7:51 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Battery charger + load I think the ones you're thinking about have "BCM" in the model numb

Re: [AFMUG] OT: XM Radio

2018-12-28 Thread Josh Luthman
People say all the time that Bose sucks but I'm very happy with Bose in all the cars I've had it in as well as the "sound box" in the house. I'm definitely not an audiophile, though. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 27, 2

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon hotspot - for access to towersite?

2018-12-28 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
You can use LTE SXTs outside with a SIM in them. That works quite well and gets service where normal cells can’t. Then its just a port on your router. Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant