Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

2019-02-21 Thread chuck
First time I ever met with Motorola, they had their whole RF design team in the room and I was showing the stinger. I needed their help to get the FCC approval. I took it apart and showed them everything about it. Then they asked me if I had considered a dielectric lens antenna. I said yes,

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

2019-02-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
Wasn’t there some guy on Youtube trying to make his own Stinger with 2 dinner plates or something? And more recently wasn’t there some foreign company selling knockoff Stingers? Strangest had to be Motorola’s LENS. Weighed a ton. Good doorstops, or for cracking walnuts. From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

2019-02-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
At least they have a Goretex (or similar) vent. Otherwise sealing up something exposed to temperature swings can be bad because it creates a vacuum that literally sucks water in via even microscopic cracks. How many installers have looked at that vent and thought it was for plugging in

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

2019-02-21 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeah I wanted to mention that when I started reading the thread. Personally IP67 is not as important to me as simply being "rain proof", and I have learned to have more faith in outdoor devices that have a drain on the bottom rather than ones that try to be perfectly sealed.  If you've been at

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

2019-02-21 Thread Eric Muehleisen
My guys in the field have complained and complained about the new design. But they do like the fact that inventory parts lists can be reduced with the new SM style. No dishes, no stingers (sorry Chuck), no license keys. We take the good with the bad on this. On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 9:40 PM Ken

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

2019-02-21 Thread castarritt
I've seen a few used Force 200 radios come back from collection with a broken tab on the cover. Also, we've lost a number of Canopy radios over the years when rain got into them after the pole blew over or a customer/competitor left it laying on the ground, so I'm all for a bit more installation

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

2019-02-21 Thread Stephen Patrick
No commercial FSO exists at 5 miles (8km) - Generally, atmospherics mean long range FSO has lower availability than most users will tolerate, so the technology is best for short range links. 10Gbps MMW at 8km is certainly possible in some regions: We have already done this for some customers in

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

2019-02-21 Thread Mathew Howard
It looks like the 450b uses pretty much the same dish as the ePMP Force 200... I wonder why they went with that goofy gland and bolt on cover instead of just doing a snap on cover like on the ePMP. I agree that the naming is stupid - they're doing the same thing with the ePMP line now, with the

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

2019-02-21 Thread chuck
dbi dbd... 220 221 whatever it takes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX3kxAA2L4Q From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 9:48 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover My complaint is not about the integral dish, but

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

2019-02-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
My complaint is not about the integral dish, but the specific implementation of the cover and gland. The 450d was not a problem. The 450b mid gain is not a problem. Naming them both 450b was stupid though. BTW, note that it’s not really 25 dBi, didn’t they finally fess up and change the

Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

2019-02-21 Thread Steve Jones
snow load is aggregate and people arent static On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 10:26 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > Dish + blocks weigh less and over more surface area than a person. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Thu, Feb

Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

2019-02-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Dish + blocks weigh less and over more surface area than a person. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:17 AM Steve Jones wrote: > newer roofs id be nervous doing NPM on with as cheap and thin as they go, >

Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

2019-02-21 Thread Steve Jones
newer roofs id be nervous doing NPM on with as cheap and thin as they go, its got to exceed snow load ratings On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 10:02 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > We've done a couple of sloped NPRM with a 5? foot pole mounting 2' dishes > for residential installs. Probably half a dozen in

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

2019-02-21 Thread Josh Luthman
To a point I agree. Look at how much nicer a 25dbi dish is over a reflector+patch radio, though. It keeps costs down (since everyone's doing the cheapo 25dbi instead of trying to get by without a bare SM). Gain is good. Ubnt Nanostation copied the Canopy idea, mostly. They moved to dishes.

Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

2019-02-21 Thread Josh Luthman
We've done a couple of sloped NPRM with a 5? foot pole mounting 2' dishes for residential installs. Probably half a dozen in the last year. Going up to 3' is a decent jump up in wind load, but I believe it would be sufficient with the 6 blocks. Worst case get another couple blocks. Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

2019-02-21 Thread Steve Jones
first thing i do with EPMP, it looks like it would apply here too is pull the cover off, throw away thi little clear plastic thing and tape the cover to the mount with two or three wraps of tape.this way its not in your hand or pocket and never ends up on the ground, plus if you ever have to

Re: [AFMUG] Doing repetitive remote jobs cheap

2019-02-21 Thread Josh Luthman
>can find me on the UBNT forum as 900mhzdude I had no idea that was you. Nice. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 4:20 AM Timothy Steele wrote: > if anyone needs repetitive work done remotely such as > >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

2019-02-21 Thread Mark Radabaugh
It drives me crazy that Cambium continually spends more time staring at what other companies have done and trying to copy them than looking internally at what made their own products the best in class. The original Canopy case design was damn near perfect - inverted cup that didn’t fill

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

2019-02-21 Thread Brian Sullivan
I hate it too.  Seems like they should have that design for ePMP and something nicer for 450.  =) What would be nice is a door with a hinge, so there aren't multiple pieces you can drop and ruin your day. On 2/20/2019 9:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Does everyone hate the 450b high gain cover