Re: [AFMUG] Missouri

2019-05-24 Thread Craig House
Yeah we’ve had a few problems. One silo that got took out by a tornado about two weeks ago replaced it with a 45G the next day. Since then it’s been tornadoes almost every night or every other night. Been a ridiculous amount of rain. I think we’ve had over 10 inches here just this week. Three

Re: [AFMUG] Missouri

2019-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
Who got hammered in Joplin a few years ago? Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Yeah, I was confused. You OK? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 24, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Craig House wrote: >> >> Yeah. I’m in Missouri. Jay is in Alabama >> >> Sent from

Re: [AFMUG] Missouri

2019-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, I was confused. You OK? Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Craig House wrote: > > Yeah. I’m in Missouri. Jay is in Alabama > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 24, 2019, at 17:34, Bill Prince wrote: >> >> Missouri? >> >> I thought they were in 'Bama? >> >> >> bp >>

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Active Lightning Suppressor - Snake Oil, or Science?

2019-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
When I bought mine a long time ago there was a really good explanation of the science and math behind how it works. I remember it uses the nearly infinite number of grounded utility poles as part of the equation. On Fri, May 24, 2019, 10:09 AM wrote: > Shouldn’t be a difference because there sh

Re: [AFMUG] 3 day weekend

2019-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
Yeah, I hate people, things, and stuff. On Fri, May 24, 2019, 6:06 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Amazing how Friday afternoon before a 3 day weekend is the time to call in > about your Internet not working ever since the hail storm a week ago. > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] Strange case: elevated water tank near tower causing reflection, ABAB reuse issue?

2019-05-24 Thread Mathew Howard
Hey, if Chuck says pig is a pronoun, it's a pronoun! On Fri, May 24, 2019, 12:20 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I thought pig (or pigs) was a noun. > > > bp > > > On 5/24/2019 9:58 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Our preferred pronoun is “Pigs” > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afm

Re: [AFMUG] Missouri

2019-05-24 Thread Craig House
We’re taking care of that storm Average here for you this year. Already about 40-50 tornados just this month Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2019, at 18:21, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > > And no storms! :) > > Sent from my smartphone > > - Reply message - > From: "Jay Weekley" >

Re: [AFMUG] Missouri

2019-05-24 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
And no storms! :) Sent from my smartphone - Reply message - From: "Jay Weekley" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: [AFMUG] Missouri Date: Fri, May 24, 2019 5:57 PM The Jay (Fuller and Weekley) team is in Alabama thankful for some good though hot weather. Craig House w

[AFMUG] 3 day weekend

2019-05-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Amazing how Friday afternoon before a 3 day weekend is the time to call in about your Internet not working ever since the hail storm a week ago. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Missouri

2019-05-24 Thread Jay Weekley
The Jay (Fuller and Weekley) team is in Alabama thankful for some good though hot weather. Craig House wrote: Yeah. I’m in Missouri. Jay is in Alabama Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2019, at 17:34, Bill Prince wrote: Missouri? I thought

Re: [AFMUG] Missouri

2019-05-24 Thread Craig House
Yeah. I’m in Missouri. Jay is in Alabama Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2019, at 17:34, Bill Prince wrote: > > Missouri? > > I thought they were in 'Bama? > > > bp > > > On 5/24/2019 3:10 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > How are Jay and Jay? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > -- > AF mailing

Re: [AFMUG] OT late lunch

2019-05-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Mmm. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 4:48 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT late lunch Combo jambalaya/gumbo. Better than anything I have ever had in Louisiana. ( I am in Salt Lake City.) -- AF mailing list AF@af

Re: [AFMUG] Missouri

2019-05-24 Thread Bill Prince
Missouri? I thought they were in 'Bama? bp On 5/24/2019 3:10 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: How are Jay and Jay? Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT late lunch

2019-05-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
That looks very tastyprovecho On Fri, May 24, 2019, 3:49 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Combo jambalaya/gumbo. Better than anything I have ever had in > Louisiana. ( I am in Salt Lake City.) > > > > Sent from my iPhone-- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/

[AFMUG] Missouri

2019-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
How are Jay and Jay? Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Strange case: elevated water tank near tower causing reflection, ABAB reuse issue?

2019-05-24 Thread Bill Prince
I thought pig (or pigs) was a noun. bp On 5/24/2019 9:58 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Our preferred pronoun is “Pigs” -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Strange case: elevated water tank near tower causing reflection, ABAB reuse issue?

2019-05-24 Thread chuck
Our preferred pronoun is “Pigs” To get decent amount of reflected energy, the reflector needs to be flat and aimed just so. Spherical surfaces always reflect in almost all directions but the RCS, (Radar Cross Section) is the measure of area that actually returns the signal. So you have a smal

[AFMUG] Strange case: elevated water tank near tower causing reflection, ABAB reuse issue?

2019-05-24 Thread Colin Stanners
I have a strange case that I wished to check with you ladies and gentlemen (...or "animals" - we've never established a term for AF members?): I have a tower where we're using 3.65Ghz PMP450 with ABAB frequency re-use (recent installation). Users wouldn't stay connected to the N sector; I ran an S

Re: [AFMUG] Cable De-Spooler

2019-05-24 Thread Bill Prince
https://www.google.com/search?channel=tus&q=collapsible+cable+reel&tbm=isch&source=univ&client=firefox-b-1-d&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjeyuLxvLTiAhWBvp4KHS-1CEsQsAR6BAgJEAE&biw=1104&bih=885 bp On 5/23/2019 4:00 PM, Nate Burke wrote: I'm getting more and more cables that do not come on a spool, but were

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Active Lightning Suppressor - Snake Oil, or Science?

2019-05-24 Thread chuck
Shouldn’t be a difference because there shouldn’t be any ground current in normal operation. The clamp induces its own current. I think it is up in the khz area and then measures what is flowing. From: dave Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 8:54 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Act

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Active Lightning Suppressor - Snake Oil, or Science?

2019-05-24 Thread dave
Its best if site is powered down but I ve measured either way and havent really seen much difference On 5/24/19 9:10 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: No, it isn't that simple. If you clamp it on a ground rod below the ground ring attachment it gives you the resistance to ground of that particular rod

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Active Lightning Suppressor - Snake Oil, or Science?

2019-05-24 Thread dave
+1 On 5/24/19 9:10 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: No, it isn't that simple. If you clamp it on a ground rod below the ground ring attachment it gives you the resistance to ground of that particular rod. You clamp it on the incoming nuetral line from the power company to measure the complete site re

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Modem Recommendations

2019-05-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Generally RFC1483 bridged, VPI=0, VCI=35 will work. But then the router behind the modem will need the right PPPoE config for the account. Unless by modem you mean a modem/router. Some carriers use an automatic setup method where the customer does not actually know their PPPoE username/passwo

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Active Lightning Suppressor - Snake Oil, or Science?

2019-05-24 Thread Lewis Bergman
No, it isn't that simple. If you clamp it on a ground rod below the ground ring attachment it gives you the resistance to ground of that particular rod. You clamp it on the incoming nuetral line from the power company to measure the complete site resistance. On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:31 AM Josh Lu

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Active Lightning Suppressor - Snake Oil, or Science?

2019-05-24 Thread Chuck McCown
There has to be a circuit. If you have a ground field or tower that will complete the circuit. Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2019, at 7:30 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > You just clamp that around a ground rod and it gives you ohms, resistance to > earth? Is it really that simple? > > Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Cable De-Spooler

2019-05-24 Thread Steve Jones
romex spoolers will work On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 7:29 PM Roland Houin wrote: > This works for us > > > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YWEU898/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_ > s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 >

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Modem Recommendations

2019-05-24 Thread Mike Hammett
The important question is will the LEC support a third-party modem? How will you provision it? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Nate Burke" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Wednesday, May

Re: [AFMUG] Charter blocking our billing Server

2019-05-24 Thread Josh Luthman
Another post for needing basic tests. Can you ping the billing server? No DNS, can the rest of the world reach your DNS parent? What's the hostname? Is this v4 or v6 or dual? I have Spectrum (Charter) at home and I can take a look. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 W

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Active Lightning Suppressor - Snake Oil, or Science?

2019-05-24 Thread Josh Luthman
You just clamp that around a ground rod and it gives you ohms, resistance to earth? Is it really that simple? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 10:01 AM Lewis Bergman wrote: > R56 is a standard developed by M

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Active Lightning Suppressor - Snake Oil, or Science?

2019-05-24 Thread dave
Lewis is correct as I follow the R56 on every site I work with and it has reduced our time on site for damaged down to nothing. I have the very same ground clamp meter and it is what I use to check every site I come to especially if its one I havent touched or seen a while. It feels good when