Re: [AFMUG] OT dinner

10 years plus, taste like new. Sent from my iPhone >> On Apr 16, 2020, at 8:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >  > Chuck, I thought of you and your Vienna sausages when I read this article. > > https://www.nytimes.com/article/expiration-dates-coronavirus.html > > “So long as there is no outward sig

Re: [AFMUG] OT dinner

My wife and I have debated this for years now. I maintain that as long as a can is not bulging or showing other signs of distress, the stuff inside is safe to eat. "Palatable" is another thing. based on what I read, the taste qualities do decline, and the "best by

Re: [AFMUG] OT dinner

There are numerous YouTube videos of people eating “century eggs” aka thousand year old eggs. Which are apparently neither 100 nor 1000 years old. But they look hideous. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 9:31 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT dinne

[AFMUG] OT Happy Friday

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Re: [AFMUG] Market saturation

To add to what Mike said, there is no stipulation that there be a road, house, or anything else for that matter in the deployment section of the 477. It is simply where you can provide service and as he pointed out, that is very loosely defined. As there is no hard standard for what providing servi

Re: [AFMUG] OT dinner

You can do ribs that way if you don't have a real smoker or an egg. foil then chips in the bottom of a baking pan with the ribs on a rack above them. ~4hr @ ~200 in the oven then finish them on a regular webber or whatnot. If the chips start to smoke too much, squirt some water on them. Not su

[AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

Axis has some $5000 ptz cameras. They have some cheaper ones too that show discontinued. Anyone know of cameras with SFP on them? My distances are too far for ethernet. I could use media converters I suppose...-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

Could use GPEN too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 11:57:14 AM Subject: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp Axis has s

Re: [AFMUG] Market saturation

Seems to match up with what we are seeing. Ohio’s number is high but likely skewed down by the SE Appalachia area of the state where availability is still poor. Mark > On Apr 16, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Brian Webster wrote: > >  > Data from 2017 by state. > > https://www.statista.com/chart/106

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

Can you give us something more to work with? Do you need PTZ? Outdoor? Night? Max budget? On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 12:00 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > Could use GPEN too. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

It is for my equipment yard. About 2 acres with 5 cameras up 35 feet. So I doubt PTZ is necessary, yes outdoor. Night if I can afford it. Like to keep it under $500/camera If possible, but you get what you pay for. Just trying to simplify the amount of wiring I will be doing at each pole. And

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

I don't think you will find a camera with sfp and if you do it won't be worth it. if you want a REALLY good ptz, hikvision DS-2DF8236IX-AELW On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 10:36 AM wrote: > It is for my equipment yard. About 2 acres with 5 cameras up 35 feet. > So I doubt PTZ is necessary, yes outdoo

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

Axis has them. Just spendy. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:10 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp I don't think you will find a camera with sfp and if you do it won't be worth it. if you want a REALLY good ptz, hikvision DS-2DF8

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

Yeah I would just use the mikrotik gpen like mike said On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:18 AM wrote: > Axis has them. Just spendy. > > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2020 12:10 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp > > I don't think you

Re: [AFMUG] Saf to af11 waveguide adapter

Calling Daniel White 😄 Do you happen to know what it takes to swap a lumina to af-11? Or am I stuck with calling saf or aviat for a replacement set of radios that will volt up? On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 9:08 AM wrote: > I don’t think we did a SAF adapter. We have pretty much quit doing all > adap

Re: [AFMUG] Saf to af11 waveguide adapter

I believe SAF makes a Lumina to Integra converter part. You’d get more spectrum use and bandwidth by going to Integra-WS as it is over an AF-11X. > On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:29 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > > Calling Daniel White 😄 > > Do you happen to know what it takes to swap a lumina to af-11? > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

What about this device? https://www.ui.com/accessories/fiber-poe-accessory/ On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 12:57 PM wrote: > Axis has some $5000 ptz cameras. They have some cheaper ones too that > show discontinued. > Anyone know of cameras with SFP on them? My distances are too far for > ethernet.

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

Don't use PTZ.  They are far more hassle than they are worth except in really unique situations, and end up missing whatever happened usually. If you have to use something to minimize cameras... try a fisheye lens. The IgniteNet mixed media converters are fairly inexpensive. I've had a lot of in

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

Pretty good wifi cameras could be had for around $200. Point a nanostation or a force 180 at them On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:57 AM wrote: > Axis has some $5000 ptz cameras. They have some cheaper ones too that > show discontinued. > Anyone know of cameras with SFP on them? My distances are too

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

That could work. Cost? From: can...@believewireless.net Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:37 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp What about this device? https://www.ui.com/accessories/fiber-poe-accessory/ On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 12:57 PM wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

Yeah, I may end up doing that. From: Eric Muehleisen Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:38 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp Pretty good wifi cameras could be had for around $200. Point a nanostation or a force 180 at them On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

$30 - https://www.balticnetworks.com/ubiquiti-fiberpoe-gen2-optical-data-transport-outdoor-poe On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 2:41 PM wrote: > That could work. Cost? > > *From:* can...@believewireless.net > *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2020 12:37 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* R

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

On 4/17/20 11:39 AM, Daniel White wrote: Don't use PTZ.  They are far more hassle than they are worth except in really unique situations, and end up missing whatever happened usually. PTZ is a great compliment to overview cameras to go with them and an operator that would use the PTZ to get a

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

Thanks, I might just go wifi. No matter what I have to power the camera. And they all be within 300’ of the hot spot. From: can...@believewireless.net Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:14 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp $30 - https://www.balti

[AFMUG] Is PRI voice still a thing?

Is anyone still using/selling PRI delivered phone service these days or is it pretty much dead? I've had a fractional PRI for 10 years now. It comes off a mux using an OC-12 SONET ring and it's pretty bulletproof (except for one time someone broke into a CO to steal stuff). The problem with VO

Re: [AFMUG] Is PRI voice still a thing?

Probably the second thing. But maybe the better way to look at it is that our standard for data reliability has to go upward. On 4/17/2020 6:14 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: Is anyone still using/selling PRI delivered phone service these days or is it pretty much dead? I've had a fractional PRI

[AFMUG] OT Workers Comp problem

One of my guys decided to put his fingers between a trailer lunette ring and a pintle hitch. Crushed two of them pretty bad. Lost some skin. Had to have some parts re attached etc. That was two weeks ago. He has been no call no show ever since. Does not return calls from the workers comp p

Re: [AFMUG] OT Workers Comp problem

I wonder how strong those opioids are. On 4/17/2020 6:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: One of my guys decided to put his fingers between a trailer lunette ring and a pintle hitch.  Crushed two of them pretty bad.  Lost some skin.  Had to have some parts re attached etc. That was two weeks ago.  He

Re: [AFMUG] OT Workers Comp problem

Does he get the free end of the world government cash too while off for this? the guy may be putting a down payment on his new mansion with all the free money hes looking at. we were by the balls when our guy broke his ankle from improperly operating a ladder. Do you tell him to come back on light

[AFMUG] Outdoor Shielded Cat5 Jumpers

Looking for a source of shielded outdoor cat5 jumpers around 3 foot. To go from surge arrestor to AP. Anyone have a source? We currently make them ourselves but looking at other cheaper faster options. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Workers Comp problem

I would guess Carol used the swamps. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >  > Does he get the free end of the world government cash too while off for this? > the guy may be putting a down payment on his new mansion with all the free > money hes looking at.

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor Shielded Cat5 Jumpers

L-com makes some but I don't think they'll be cheaper than making your own. https://www.showmecables.com/by-category/cables/cat5e-cat6-cat7/outdoor-and- industrial-ethernet-cables -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:45 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subje

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor Shielded Cat5 Jumpers

Shireen Inc? On Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 4:45 PM Matt wrote: > Looking for a source of shielded outdoor cat5 jumpers around 3 foot. > To go from surge arrestor to AP. Anyone have a source? We currently > make them ourselves but looking at other cheaper faster options. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@a

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

We used POE extenders from planet for Cisco APs and cameras...most runs right at 500 ft. Worked well...just an idea.. On Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 10:57 AM wrote: > Axis has some $5000 ptz cameras. They have some cheaper ones too that > show discontinued. > Anyone know of cameras with SFP on them?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Workers Comp problem

Do you have a signed employee manual that says ’no call, no show for 3 days constitutes a voluntary resignation’? You might get away with claiming he quit. We also added a rule saying injured workers must follow the doctors recommendations for physical therapy, if you don’t we get to fire you

Re: [AFMUG] Is PRI voice still a thing?

How on earth do you break into a CO?  The one's I've seen are pretty dang secure, and usually staffed unless it's rural.  Was that here in Reno, Seth? On 4/17/20 3:14 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: Is anyone still using/selling PRI delivered phone service these days or is it pretty much dead? I've

[AFMUG] OT - bacon

That got your attention, didn't it. Steve seems to be right, chicken thighs are hard to find in the stores. Why is that? I thought most of the world preferred every other part of the chicken including wings. I see legs, where are the thighs going? Are people buying them now because it's the

Re: [AFMUG] Is PRI voice still a thing?

We still have a customer that has a voice PRI. We have a dozen or two PRIs for interconnection with other voice switches. A lot of the minutes these days are over IP anyway, even in the core of the voice network. Well, obviously not anything legacy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Comp

Re: [AFMUG] OT - bacon

The pork processing plant in Rochelle was shut down for two weeks today due to COVID-19 infections in their workers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Mic

Re: [AFMUG] OT - bacon

Well, we are partly to blame. The chicken thighs work great in pellet smokers, because they tend to react well to the low and slow cooking method of smokers. They don’t dry out as fast and the darker meat picks up the smoke flavor really well.We have tried out a bunch of new recipes usin

Re: [AFMUG] Is PRI voice still a thing?

On 4/17/20 4:53 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote: How on earth do you break into a CO?  The one's I've seen are pretty dang secure, and usually staffed unless it's rural.  Was that here in Reno, Seth? The south meadows CO by winco. 11/11/18 - 11/14/18 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.af

Re: [AFMUG] Is PRI voice still a thing?

Lemme guess.  Copper harvesting. On 4/17/20 5:37 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 4/17/20 4:53 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote: How on earth do you break into a CO?  The one's I've seen are pretty dang secure, and usually staffed unless it's rural.  Was that here in Reno, Seth? The south meadows CO by

Re: [AFMUG] OT - bacon

Well, that’s not optimal. From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 7:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bacon The pork processing plant in Rochelle was shut down for two weeks today due to COVID-19 infections in their workers. -

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

also chuck, most of the hikvision cameras and POE switches have an 'extend' feature that can be enabled and push poe+data to 850ft On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 4:31 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > We used POE extenders from planet for Cisco APs and cameras...most runs > right at 500 ft. Worked well...jus

Re: [AFMUG] OT - bacon

imma cut you if you dont let loose some of them tyson thighs On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 7:22 PM David Coudron wrote: > Well, we are partly to blame. The chicken thighs work great in pellet > smokers, because they tend to react well to the low and slow cooking method > of smokers. They don’t dry

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Caldo Tlalpeño

is that a chicken broth? On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 7:20 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Yum yum yum... > Shredded chicken breast, garbanzo beans, cilantro, cheese , special sauce > and avocado..with corn tortillas and a bubbly. > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listi

Re: [AFMUG] OT Workers Comp problem

I will have to check our manual but I’ll bet it does not have that. Clever, we will add it. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:51 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Workers Comp problem Do you have a signed employee manual that says ’no call, no

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Caldo Tlalpeño

Yes...some add Chipotle but I like mine with out...the melted cheese and avocado make it scrumptious... On Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 8:43 PM Steve Jones wrote: > is that a chicken broth? > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 7:20 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> Yum yum yum... >> Shredded chicken breast, garbanzo