Re: [AFMUG] why do the tech averse buy so many tech toys?

2020-10-13 Thread Jaime Solorza
BFM On Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 3:50 PM Bill Prince wrote: > It's not tech. It's magic. People like magic. > > -- > bp > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 2:28 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > >> I'd be inclined to shun almost any Internet enabled device. Until proven >> otherwise,

Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models

2020-10-13 Thread Adam Moffett
They probably could. On 10/13/2020 5:57 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Can the county sell IRUs as opposed to the underlying asset? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Brigham Young University's Internet Measurement and Anti-Abuse Laboratory

2020-10-13 Thread Mike Hammett
Unless you have a reason to do otherwise (which you would already know): On upstream and peering interfaces: Outgoing ACL --- Accept your and your customers' public IP prefixes Drop all else Inbound ACL --- Drop your IP addresses - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models

2020-10-13 Thread Mike Hammett
Can the county sell IRUs as opposed to the underlying asset? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 3:00:44 PM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] why do the tech averse buy so many tech toys?

2020-10-13 Thread Bill Prince
It's not tech. It's magic. People like magic. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 2:28 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > I'd be inclined to shun almost any Internet enabled device. Until proven > otherwise, I'd assume all the software is a Jenga tower of Java libraries > and code

Re: [AFMUG] why do the tech averse buy so many tech toys?

2020-10-13 Thread Adam Moffett
I'd be inclined to shun almost any Internet enabled device. Until proven otherwise, I'd assume all the software is a Jenga tower of Java libraries and code snippets copied off the Internet. On 10/13/2020 4:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I just can’t figure out the people who profess to have no

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-13 Thread chuck
I think that at some point, perhaps Harvard or MIT will but their MOOC content available for credit. Pay a small fee for a proctor service. Essentially free education for the masses. They have already created the content. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 3:13 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-13 Thread Bill Prince
The fascinating thing is that many colleges & universities are not willing to cut a break on virtual learning. Full boat or go home. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 2:10 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 10/12/20 10:24, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > It will be interesting to

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/12/20 10:24, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: It will be interesting to see how education changes post covid.  I would think that we have proven brick and mortar universities are not needed. Perhaps for some labs and other special things.  But online works. Should drive the cost down I would

[AFMUG] WiFi Stds compliant beamforming sectors in 2.4?

2020-10-13 Thread Jeremy Grip
A few years ago, when the electrical utility trashed the 900 spectrum with “smart” meters, I did a forklift upgrade of a bunch of 900 PtMP with some old Wavion beamforming sectors talking to ubnt clients in 2.4. I was surprised that I got just about the same coverage that I had with 900

[AFMUG] why do the tech averse buy so many tech toys?

2020-10-13 Thread Ken Hohhof
I just can't figure out the people who profess to have no understanding or patience for technology, and get all frustrated if you use techie terms like "router" and "WiFi", yet they have 25 Internet enabled devices in their house from coffee pots to picture frames to doorbells to game consoles and

Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models

2020-10-13 Thread chuck
I have actually done this before. No skin off their nose. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:17 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models Interesting thought. On 10/13/2020 4:15 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If I was building it, I would

Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models

2020-10-13 Thread Adam Moffett
Interesting thought. On 10/13/2020 4:15 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If I was building it, I would try to convince them to let me add a duct to two everywhere that I would own. *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:00 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models

2020-10-13 Thread chuck
If I was building it, I would try to convince them to let me add a duct to two everywhere that I would own. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:00 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models Sadly we're literally not allowed to own it. It's a

[AFMUG] TNSR 10G software router now free for non-commercial use

2020-10-13 Thread fiberrun
I figure this might be of interest to all of you that are rocking Mikrotik CHR and running against its limitations. Netgate's TNSR software router is now free for non-commercial use and $499 per year for commercial use. No bandwidth limits, go as fast as your hardware can pass packets.

Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models

2020-10-13 Thread Adam Moffett
Sadly we're literally not allowed to own it.  It's a USDA "ReConnect" grant.  The grant awardee is the muni.  USDA will have a hand on the wheel and their contract will literally not allow anyone but the awardee to own the network. We could potentially buy the network afterwards with USDA

Re: [AFMUG] DIY Broadband rocks!

2020-10-13 Thread Jaime Solorza
Wow.. impressive On Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 12:58 PM Sam Lambie wrote: > I don't have any cause I was too busy working the whole weekend! we > swapped out a ROHN 25 with a ROHN 55. 100' tall with live gear on it. > Nothing got damaged and it went pretty smoothly considering the wind all > damn day.

Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models

2020-10-13 Thread Steven Kenney
It'll start out like most marriages. That should be all you need to know. I'd keep an eye on the divorce rates :) In my case I have the perfect wife.. but dealing with municipalities and government you can expect your wife to be a "Karen". I'd ensure you own the fiber and have access to work

Re: [AFMUG] DIY Broadband rocks!

2020-10-13 Thread Sam Lambie
I don't have any cause I was too busy working the whole weekend! we swapped out a ROHN 25 with a ROHN 55. 100' tall with live gear on it. Nothing got damaged and it went pretty smoothly considering the wind all damn day. On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 4:59 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Pictures? > > On

[AFMUG] public-private fiber models

2020-10-13 Thread Adam Moffett
Anybody have direct experience with public-private partnerships as far as what works and what doesn't? I'm discussing with a county gov that has funding to build a network, and they're open to almost anything.  The nature of their funding requires that they own the network.  The nature of

Re: [AFMUG] Brigham Young University's Internet Measurement and Anti-Abuse Laboratory

2020-10-13 Thread Dan Spitler
Funny story, we keep getting these emails for a different ASN. We have some unrelated IPs SWIPed to us from them but BYU thinks we're a valid contact because we show up in https://ip-netblocks.whoisxmlapi.com On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 8:48 AM Larry Smith wrote: > At this point in time I have

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-13 Thread Ken Hohhof
Right now during the pandemic, the most in demand workers are anybody in the building trades. Everybody is putting on additions or remodeling or building new houses, I guess because mortgage interest rates are so low. Maybe it's a one-time bonanza, but anybody who can wield a hammer or shovel is

Re: [AFMUG] Brigham Young University's Internet Measurement and Anti-Abuse Laboratory

2020-10-13 Thread Larry Smith
At this point in time I have absolutely zero ipv6 in my network and yes, it is filtered (completely) at my border. And most definitely none of my DNS servers are listening on v6. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Tue October 13 2020 10:18, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > I believe this was specific

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik SPF

2020-10-13 Thread Mike Hammett
https://mikrotik.com/product/crs309_1g_8s_in Swap out the PSes in some of the CRSes with this guy: https://mikrotik.com/product/pw48v_12v85w - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt"

[AFMUG] Mikrotik SPF

2020-10-13 Thread Matt
Is there a Mikrotik rackmount switch with at least 8 SPF ports that powers off of DC? https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches Looking just not finding what I want. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Brigham Young University's Internet Measurement and Anti-Abuse Laboratory

2020-10-13 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I believe this was specific to IPv6. Are you sure you are filtering IPv6 and not just IPv4? Mark > On Oct 13, 2020, at 8:51 AM, Larry Smith wrote: > > Hm, got one yesterday, then three more this morning. > They appear to be going down my AS contact list - one this morning > was to

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-13 Thread Adam Moffett
I went to community college in the 2000's.  Got an associates in CIS.  I still have no further education.  The cost-benefit analysis told me there was no point in doing so.  I lived in the same town with Cornell University, and people were coming out of there with 6 figures of debt and a

Re: [AFMUG] fun size Paydays

2020-10-13 Thread Adam Moffett
Maybe the kid would just die early and they'd write it up as "natural causes" because they didn't make the connection. Allegedly that's one driver for apparent increasing heart disease and some cancers.  They probably are happening more since we're all fatter and less active, but also in the

Re: [AFMUG] Brigham Young University's Internet Measurement and Anti-Abuse Laboratory

2020-10-13 Thread Steven Kenney
Interesting tidbit, thanks for sharing. I do all the proper filtering but didn't consider blocking spoofing attacks from the outside. Not seeing much on how a Mikrotik would handle this. Probably firewall? [ https://www.wavedirect.net/ |] [ https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed ] [

Re: [AFMUG] Brigham Young University's Internet Measurement and Anti-Abuse Laboratory

2020-10-13 Thread Larry Smith
Hm, got one yesterday, then three more this morning. They appear to be going down my AS contact list - one this morning was to "abuse". They are now blocked here. All four advertising their DSAV - Destination-Side Source Address Validation. And I have had filters blocking my IP from outside