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> *From: *"Mark Radabaugh"
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 16, 2020 7:06:36 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT
Huh? Wrong thread? That sounds like a car wash decision.
From: AF On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 3:13 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
I choose the cheapest one that includes cleaning the underbody
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> *From: *"Mark Radabaugh"
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 16, 2020 7:06:36 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
>
> The fiber builds are targeting a different mar
dwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Radabaugh"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 7:06:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
The fiber builds are targeting a
The fiber builds are targeting a different market than our fixed wireless. We
have to build out fiber to our tower sites that are predominantly in small
villages that have cable systems. The pricing and marketing is all aimed at
competing with Spectrum and taking market share from them. I n
Or one down from the top (especially when there are only 3 choices).
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 12:33 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
I would bet that a huge
*From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2020 8:21 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
>
> No because then you can't say "prices starting at". In my case I'm
> weighted in the middle
I wish I could find that study of drive through car wash purchasing patterns.
It does seem that people like choosing one up from the bottom.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 8:21 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
15, 2020 at 3:49 PM
*To: *"af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
The good news is a half million sub limit. They will easily find
a half million hard to serve locations around the
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*From: *AF on behalf of Chuck McCown
*Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Date: *Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:49 PM
*To: *"af@af.afmug.com"
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Detai
No because then you can't say "prices starting at". In my case I'm
weighted in the middle - people love picking the middle plan. It doesn't
matter about speeds at all (they don't know) but the dollars are
something they're cautious of.
Josh Luthman
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> *From: *AF on behalf of Chuck McCown <
> ch...@wbmfg.com>
> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Date: *Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:49 PM
>
behalf of Chuck McCown
> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:49 PM
> To: "af@af.afmug.com"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
>
> The good news is a half million sub limit. They will easily find a half
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t our customers.
From: dave
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 1:16 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
Just install 40k of micropops :)
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On 7/15/20 11:57 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
There are some details in this story
Wouldn't you be better off selling one plan like Google? A gig for $70. Or
at least get rid of the $50 plan. Do 50 Meg for $60 and gig for $70. That
way it's almost a no brainer to go with the gig. 20x more speed for only
$10 more!!!
I bet your profit would be higher overall, even with slightly fe
> On Jul 15, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> So you’re selling 25M of bandwidth and 975M of bragging rights?
Yep, exactly. And that’s all it is really.
>
> Gamers probably use the gig speed for awhile whenever a new gigantic game
> comes out. But that’s not like video streaming
If it's not tilted, that sounds like a squirrel and bird platform.
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 5:18 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
What I noticed is the flat surface of the
5:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
On fiber it’s actually pretty easy to do (Gigabit for <$90) - because people
don’t use it any harder than they use a 25/3 connection.
Mark
On Jul 15, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Ken Hoh
modulation. And how many reviews do you see that say the WISP was
>> fast at first and then the speeds just got slower and slower.
>>
>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2020 1:42 PM
>&
> >> hasn’t had a new WISP pop up in your area advertising speeds that
> >> sound like every subscriber gets the full capacity of the AP at max
> >> modulation. And how many reviews do you see that say the WISP was
> >> fast at first and then the speeds just got
: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
On fiber it’s actually pretty easy to do (Gigabit for <$90) - because people
don’t use it any harder than they use a 25/3 connection.
Mark
On Jul 15, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
If you can s
July 15, 2020 1:42 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
The FCC allowed them 2Ghz of bandwidth for the satellite to user
terminal. 20Gbps must assume 10 bits/hz. Or maybe they mean a
different sense of "capacity". The journalistic sou
t;
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf
> Of Ryan Ray
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 3:45 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
>
> You're never goi
ny reviews do you see that say the WISP was fast at first and then the
speeds just got slower and slower.
*From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2020 1:42 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
The FCC allowed them 2Ghz of
If you can sell gigabit for $50 (or even $90), don’t come to my area please.
From: AF On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 3:45 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
You're never going to see starlink in your
an
> doesn’t get poached on, I am not worried.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2020 2:49 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
>
>
>
> The good news is a half millio
: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
The good news is a half million sub limit. They will easily find a half
million hard to serve locations around the globe without breaking a sweat.
So the low hanging fruit are not our customers.
From: dave
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 1:16 PM
To
: Details on the Starlink router
Just install 40k of micropops :)
On 7/15/20 11:57 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
There are some details in this story that were new to me. One of the ones
that popped up was that each group of 60 Starlink satellites is expected to
support ~~ 40,000 subscribers
Just install 40k of micropops :)
On 7/15/20 11:57 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
There are some details in this story that were new to me. One of the
ones that popped up was that each group of 60 Starlink satellites is
expected to support ~~ 40,000 subscribers.
That puts the 800 satellite "moderate
Don't forget that these are LEO. I don't know for certain, but I
get the impression that each group of 60 satellites represents a
ring of sorts. That would put about 6° of separation between each
of the sats in one ring. There will also be overlapping rings at
som
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 1:42 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router
The FCC allowed them 2Ghz of bandwidth for the satellite to user terminal.
20Gbps must assume 10 bits/hz. Or maybe they mean a different sense of
"capacity". The jo
The FCC allowed them 2Ghz of bandwidth for the satellite to user
terminal. 20Gbps must assume 10 bits/hz. Or maybe they mean a
different sense of "capacity". The journalistic sources are never
precise about these things.
I've been assuming that just like any other wireless you can't put the
Doing some math:
40K subscribers on 60 satellites is 666 subs/satellite if equally loaded.
But load is far from equal, the planet surface is 70% water. I don't know
how much the "standard" orbit is over water but let's say 50% as it's
further from the poles. Say that at any point in time, around ha
There are some details in this story that were new to me. One of the
ones that popped up was that each group of 60 Starlink satellites is
expected to support ~~ 40,000 subscribers.
That puts the 800 satellite "moderate service level" at supporting about
half a million subscribers (~~ 533,000).
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