Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
It was a fail because they announced the Osborne 2 before it was ready and customers waited for it rather than buying the Osborne 1. Original Message From: "Jan-GAMs" Sent: 10/4/2024 6:10:51 PMTo: af@af.afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 I so remember

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Jan-GAMs
I so remember those ads, the guy carrying a suitcase computer gets onto an elevator and up into a lot of light!  (as in gone to heaven?)  That was a fail?  I knew several co-workers who bought one.  Compaq came out with something similar and then TRS came out with something a little better.  Bu

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread chuck
Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 But the times they are a changin’. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90WD_ats6eE From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2024 3:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 We get it wit

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
But the times they are a changin’. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90WD_ats6eE From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2024 3:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 We get it with our FTTH. Against comcast and all the FWA

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread chuck
- Lists Sent: Friday, October 4, 2024 2:56 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 There aren’t a lot left, but there are some. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com On Oct 4, 2024, at 4

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
There aren’t a lot left, but there are some.Regards,Jeff Jeff BroadwickCTIconnect312-205-2519 Office574-220-7826 Celljbroadw...@cticonnect.comOn Oct 4, 2024, at 4:42 PM, Robert wrote: Who can get $100/mo in a competitive environment?  Sole provider sure, but Cell service

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Robert
Who can get $100/mo in a competitive environment?  Sole provider sure, but Cell service and cable service will kill that pricing.   If you are competing against Starlink only, then OK but you have to eat your install costs too... On 10/4/24 12:01 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: Varies by cus

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Dev
ssage > From: "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" > Sent: 10/4/2024 2:02:15 PM > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 > > Varies by customer and their situation. If you can get $100/month and an > install fee it’s pretty sh

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
I looked at some CAF grants and made some reasonable assumptions to calculate $ per tower. Big number. It wasn't clear that actual customer revenue was necessary.Get grant. Equip towers. Cash out to private equity.Yes, eventually you'd need revenue, but down the road enough it would be someone e

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Varies by customer and their situation.  If you can get $100/month and an install fee it’s pretty short.  Less than that it ales a lot longer.  Grants certainly make it easier.Regards,Jeff Jeff BroadwickCTIconnect312-205-2519 Office574-220-7826 Celljbroadw...@cticonnect.comOn Oct 4, 2024, at 2:44 P

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Mathew Howard
ISM band. Whatever the reason, we > reverted to 10 MHz channels in 900. > > > > Bottom line though is there are were radios that could use 20 MHz of the > 26 MHz. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Friday, October 4, 2024 11:42 AM > *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Dev
What is the average time before operators make a profit on a sub? I know, variables, but mainly, before or after I die of old age or run fiber? > On Oct 4, 2024, at 5:40 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > > I can get you any pricing you need. > > My understanding is that the G2 will be dual b

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
Of ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> Sent: Friday, October 4, 2024 11:10 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 I was always asking Motorola to make a version of 900 that used the entire band. In some rural ap

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
In one SKU.Not sure about up and down.  I’ll find out.What do you mean by CA?Regards,Jeff Jeff BroadwickCTIconnect312-205-2519 Office574-220-7826 Celljbroadw...@cticonnect.comOn Oct 4, 2024, at 12:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:>G2 will be dual band, 3 and 6GHzIn one SKU?  Both bands uplink/downlink? 

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Friday, October 4, 2024 11:10 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 > > > > I was always asking Motorola to make a version of 900 that used the entire > band. > > In some rural applications it would have worked just find and could hav

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
smartgrid interference, although I think we still have 2 legacy subs on 1 AP. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2024 11:10 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 I was always asking Motorola to make a version of 900 that used

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Josh Luthman
>G2 will be dual band, 3 and 6GHz In one SKU? Both bands uplink/downlink? CA? On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 8:41 AM Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > I can get you any pricing you need. > > My understanding is that the G2 will be dual band, 3 and 6GHz. It will be > able to use 4x 40MHz channels and s

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread chuck
- Lists Sent: Friday, October 4, 2024 8:34 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 BTW, we’ve seen people replace 900 MHz with 3GHz Tarana and the results have been terrific. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Mathew Howard
gt; our money and be happy to do it, but it absolutely better work. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick - Lists > *Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2024 8:40 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group &g

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
: Friday, October 04, 2024 8:40 AMTo: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 I can get you any pricing you need. My understanding is that the G2 will be dual band, 3 and 6GHz.  It will be able to use 4x 40MHz channels and still provide all the interference mitigation of the G1

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Bill Prince
better work. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick - Lists > *Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2024 8:40 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 > > > > I can

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
 From: AF On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - ListsSent: Friday, October 04, 2024 8:40 AMTo: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 I can get you any pricing you need. My understanding is that the G2 will be dual band, 3 and 6GHz.  It will be able to use 4x 40MHz channels and still

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread dmmoffett
. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Friday, October 04, 2024 8:40 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 I can get you any pricing you need. My understanding is that the G2 will be dual band, 3 and 6GHz. It will be able

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-04 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
I can get you any pricing you need.My understanding is that the G2 will be dual band, 3 and 6GHz.  It will be able to use 4x 40MHz channels and still provide all the interference mitigation of the G1 with 2x 40MHz channels.I’m sure there is more, but that is what I know now.Regards,Jeff Jeff Broadw

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
add 6 months to whatever date they say and another 6 months for them to get the bugs out of it. From: AF On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2024 5:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2 The G1 is expensive enough, are people actually

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-03 Thread Dev
I wish Tarana’s price was the actual price, instead of sometimes a ton, sometimes a half a ton, sometimes don’t know. That way, I could calculate how many decades it would be until each customer would be profitable (outside of subsidized builds). > On Oct 3, 2024, at 3:04 PM, Jason McKemie >

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-03 Thread Jason McKemie
The G1 is expensive enough, are people actually deploying these on a large scale? The AP is pricey, but not necessarily a deal-breaker - those subscriber units though... On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 1:21 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Osborne Effect refers to one of the most infamous marketing fails of all >

[AFMUG] Tarana G2

2024-10-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Osborne Effect refers to one of the most infamous marketing fails of all time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect Has Tarana done this by announcing the G2 while all they have shipping is the G1? Or is the G2 so much more expensive that it's just for window shopping anyway? I fi