Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-14 Thread Adam Moffett
quot; *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF You'd have to provision 18 customers differently than the other 1000 which is just a headache.  A one time purchase of a shelf and GPON4/GPON8 is better in the long run. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayn

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-10 Thread fiberrun
no sense in this context.     - Jared     Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 From: "Josh Luthman" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF You'd have to provision 18 customers differently than the other 1000 which is just a h

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-10 Thread Josh Luthman
*To:* "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF > Because a GPON4 or GPON8 card is a chunk of change. > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 >

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-10 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
The downstream to the ONT is a constant stream. It contains the timing and gating info for polling the upstream. So, yeah, upstream would be tricky. From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 3:03 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF GPON

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-10 Thread fiberrun
If cost is an issue, why not just put an Ethernet switch on the far side of the RF link? It's just 18 homes so any 24 port SFP switch would do.     - Jared     Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2021 From: "Josh Luthman" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AF

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-10 Thread fiberrun
t; To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: "Chuck McCown" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF Not saying you could convey a full gpon traffic load.  But if you could just have a few ONTs stretched out there via RF it would be very handy.  It seems pretty simple as a block diagram.  Just a

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-09 Thread Robert
it without any layer 234 type of stuff, you might be able to replicate it.  Essentially photon to rf then back to photon. *From:* Ryan Ray *Sent:* Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:33 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF I'd have to imagine

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Because a GPON4 or GPON8 card is a chunk of change. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 2:27 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Why go to that trouble, and not just packetize it over an RF link? Do a > new GPON

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-09 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Calix GPON via RF Why go to that trouble, and not just packetize it over an RF link? Do a new GPON segment at the far end, or am I not understanding something? bp On 9/8/2021 12:09 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I am sure this has been discussed before but not finding it. I need to extend

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-09 Thread Bill Prince
Why go to that trouble, and not just packetize it over an RF link? Do a new GPON segment at the far end, or am I not understanding something? bp On 9/8/2021 12:09 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I am sure

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-09 Thread Steve Jones
sentially photon to rf then back to > photon. > > *From:* Ryan Ray > *Sent:* Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:33 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF > > I'd have to imagine the timing would get considerably screwed up and y

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-09 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
. From: Ryan Ray Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 10:33 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF I'd have to imagine the timing would get considerably screwed up and you'd end up with rogue ONT errors constantly. On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 9:23 AM

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-09 Thread Trey Scarborough
Not possible on an RF level that I know of but I have done some testing with the Tbit SFP+ XGSpon ONT. Waiting on a microwave 80ghz link with a 10GSFP+ port to test running it directly with a SFP+ DAC extender so it doesn't require an additional switch just DC and fiber to the radio. On

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-09 Thread Ryan Ray
nd probably > expects microsecond response times. That would have to be spoofed probably > . I wonder if the ONT receiving is essentially a tagging scheme with no > sync issues to worry about. > > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 8, 2021 8:41 PM > *To:* af

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-09 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I would probably take one too if the price is right. There are some on ebay though. $499. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 6:48 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF Willing to offload one? I'm looking for... 000

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-09 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
: Wednesday, September 8, 2021 8:41 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF Is it even possible? How wide is an optical channel? They space them 20nm apart, and that's gonna be around 2ghz of spacing between channels. That doesn't mean the channel is 2ghz wide

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
gt; site. Need to find one of those shelves. >>> >>> *From:* Carl Peterson >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 8, 2021 2:57 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF >>> >>> I've

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-08 Thread Carl Peterson
nesday, September 8, 2021 2:57 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF >> >> I've looked but never found such a beast. i would love this, even for a >> few hundred meters. Look into an E3 GPON. Easier than

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-08 Thread Adam Moffett
Is it even possible?  How wide is an optical channel?  They space them 20nm apart, and that's gonna be around 2ghz of spacing between channels.  That doesn't mean the channel is 2ghz wide, but it might be "up to" that big and you'd need that full duplex.  I mean RFOG puts a whole cable TV

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-08 Thread Josh Luthman
o find one of those shelves. > > *From:* Carl Peterson > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 8, 2021 2:57 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF > > I've looked but never found such a beast. i would love this, even for a

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I should have said E7-2 would be my first inclination for the remote site. Need to find one of those shelves. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Wednesday, September 8, 2021 2:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF I've looked but never found

Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-08 Thread Carl Peterson
I've looked but never found such a beast. i would love this, even for a few hundred meters. Look into an E3 GPON. Easier than a full cabinet On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 2:10 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I am sure this has been discussed before but not finding it. > > I need to extend service

[AFMUG] extending Calix GPON via RF

2021-09-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I am sure this has been discussed before but not finding it. I need to extend service to a small cluster of new homes being built. About 18 homes. Too far to get there with fiber right now. Maybe in a few years. So I want to extend my system up to them. Will take a repeater. So need to