Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread Stefan Englhardt
Netonix WS-6-Mini. They have an outdoor-Enclosure with outlets at the bottom. Very reliable, fast and a very good user interface. Very easy to configure vlans. You can power them with another netonix, Mimosa/AF Power plug. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread Daniel Gerlach
Netonix +1 2015-11-13 3:12 GMT+01:00 Jaime Solorza : > Actually. We got 4 of the 5 and 2 of 8 port Netonix for Sonic Ranch > > Jaime Solorza > > On Nov 12, 2015 6:29 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: >> >> Communists >> >> Jaime Solorza >> >> On Nov 12, 2015 2:28 PM, wrote: >>> >>> Two votes for Netoni

Re: [AFMUG] GCI, and Alaska Cable provider, shows up in the Missouri 477 as providing service?

2015-11-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Interesting.. There is a company called Global Precision Services which opened up here a few weeks ago from Anchorage... Wonder if they are part of same group. Building is an old data farm outfit... Jaime Solorza On Nov 12, 2015 8:11 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > I haven't checked any other stat

Re: [AFMUG] TEST

2015-11-12 Thread Paul McCall
Not seeing anything like that Josh. Everything looks normal. Amazon doesn't "do" anything except allow (or not) the mail to pass -Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject

Re: [AFMUG] TEST

2015-11-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
I copy Jaime Solorza On Nov 12, 2015 8:15 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > test > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Josh Reynolds > wrote: > > Yeah, like amazon is doing one, and the "list" itself is doing > > another. What the heck? > > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke > wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] TEST

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
test On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Yeah, like amazon is doing one, and the "list" itself is doing > another. What the heck? > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: >> I see two separate emails. >> >> On Nov 12, 2015 4:19 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: >>> >

[AFMUG] GCI, and Alaska Cable provider, shows up in the Missouri 477 as providing service?

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
I haven't checked any other states yet, but GCI shows up as providing service to most (if not all, haven't checked) of the state of Missouri? If you look, they claim 0Mbps down and 0Mbps up, but claim "business service" with a tech code that means "satellite". AFAIK, GCI does not own any satellite

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

2015-11-12 Thread Bill Prince
You could also do what Apple is doing. There was an announcement a couple weeks ago that they are dumping VMware, and going with KVM. Trying to see what that might entail for us, but there's a learning curve. bp On 11/12/2015 1:13 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: Did you get any responses as I'm curi

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
You're talking about specialized mid-higher end hardware. That said, those drivers should be backported to that 2.6.32 kernel. On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > The gains are insignificant with an openvz jail environment compared to a > paravirtualized (PV, not HVM) Xen enviro

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

2015-11-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The gains are insignificant with an openvz jail environment compared to a paravirtualized (PV, *not* HVM) Xen environment. With OpenVZ in its current incarnation you are stuck running a 2.6.32 series ancient kernel which significantly reduces support for high performance I/O devices such as the lat

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Actually. We got 4 of the 5 and 2 of 8 port Netonix for Sonic Ranch Jaime Solorza On Nov 12, 2015 6:29 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Communists > > Jaime Solorza > On Nov 12, 2015 2:28 PM, wrote: > >> Two votes for Netonix. Thanks, I will look into them. >> >> *From:* Brett A Mansfield >> *Sen

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Communists Jaime Solorza On Nov 12, 2015 2:28 PM, wrote: > Two votes for Netonix. Thanks, I will look into them. > > *From:* Brett A Mansfield > *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:02 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch > > Netonix! I love these switches! > > Tha

Re: [AFMUG] TEST

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
Yeah, like amazon is doing one, and the "list" itself is doing another. What the heck? On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I see two separate emails. > > On Nov 12, 2015 4:19 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: >> >> erm, is anybody else seeing duplicates? >> >> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
The can be significant performance gains in both memory reduction and IO by using OpenVZ though. It just depends on your needs and environment. On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Openvz is really more like a chroot jail. You can accomplish much better > functionality and the ab

Re: [AFMUG] TEST

2015-11-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hola Jaime Solorza On Nov 12, 2015 5:19 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > erm, is anybody else seeing duplicates? > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Reynolds > wrote: > > Hello? Test? 1 2 3? > > > > :) >

Re: [AFMUG] TEST

2015-11-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I see two separate emails. On Nov 12, 2015 4:19 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > erm, is anybody else seeing duplicates? > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Reynolds > wrote: > > Hello? Test? 1 2 3? > > > > :) >

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Lol! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 12, 2015 1:07 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > But at least you won't need to worry about forwarding it to anyone. > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:52 AM, James Howard wrote: > >> You’ll get a d

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

2015-11-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Openvz is really more like a chroot jail. You can accomplish much better functionality and the ability to run a wider range of guest VMs with xen or kvm. Keep in mind with openvz all guest OS must run the same kernel as the host. Unless you need openvz for a hosting environment that will have hun

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Well. I do have one set of gigabeam 1.25 Gbps 80 GHz radios that are multimode. However their design was finalized in 2006, by modern standards they are ancient. Company is defunct. On Nov 12, 2015 5:02 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Wasn't there a radio just released that only supported multimode

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke
No sane manufacturer would do that. Every serious radio I've seen with fiber interface is sfp based. Have seen a few older ones with SC duplex LX singlemode. On Nov 12, 2015 5:02 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Wasn't there a radio just released that only supported multimode > somehow? Maybe mimosa?

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

2015-11-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Chicks with dicks vol XXI brrip 1080p :( The plot is hard to follow if you haven't seen volumes 1 through 20. On Nov 12, 2015 9:35 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > 4th of July Booty - Kelsi Monroe (Teen Curves 2015-07-02) is apparently a > popular title BTW > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:33

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
Wasn't there a radio just released that only supported multimode somehow? Maybe mimosa? On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Use neither, 1000BaseLX SFPs are $16 a piece. Do 1310nm on singlemode up a > tower. Any serious fiber contractor or FTTA installer will laugh at the idea >

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Do SC/UPC duplex bulkhead connectors in your tower top box, for example if running 24 strands up a tower. Use SC to LC jumper cables in liquid tight conduit. LC for the radio end of course. One corning CCH panel is good for twelve strands of SC connectors. There are tiny enclosures for the cch int

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Use neither, 1000BaseLX SFPs are $16 a piece. Do 1310nm on singlemode up a tower. Any serious fiber contractor or FTTA installer will laugh at the idea of outside plant multimode. On Nov 12, 2015 1:50 PM, "Peter Kranz" wrote: > For any new builds you should use 50um since it is 10-Gig compatible.

[AFMUG] TEST

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
Hello? Test? 1 2 3? :)

Re: [AFMUG] TEST

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
erm, is anybody else seeing duplicates? On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Hello? Test? 1 2 3? > > :)

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Work
The UBNT 16port edgepoint switch is said to have a SFP plus port on it but no MSRP even on that yet — Sent from Mailbox On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Honestly couldn't tell you. There's a handful of sites that detail what > sizes do which mode. I believe the wavele

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Cisco has a very broad operating temperature range. Never had a single issue in our non-enviro cabinets. Not a cheap alternative. On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:57 PM, wrote: > Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not > have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.

Re: [AFMUG] powering PTP600s off other devices

2015-11-12 Thread Eric Muehleisen
I believe the very latest LMG CTM2 hardware revision will allow for PTP600. None of my CTM2's have this capabiliy, even with latest software. On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Paul McCall wrote: > Can a PTP600 be easily powered off a CMM3/CMM4 or CTM/CTM2 ? > > > > Any downside? > > > > Paul > >

Re: [AFMUG] LTE Speeds

2015-11-12 Thread Dan Petermann
LTE can be set for equal time or equal rate. Equal rate will drag down the thruput of all users. Equal time will only impact the user with a poor signal. If everyones signal is great and one users radio signal is bad, that user only gets the thruput that can be crammed into his timeslot becaus

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
A backup and restore? Such wizardry! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 5:32 PM, David wrote: > That is something I am trying out now.. > > > On 11/12/2015 02:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Cnmaestro would hav

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid

2015-11-12 Thread David
That is something I am trying out now.. On 11/12/2015 02:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Cnmaestro would have the text config. You can load it on another unit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 12, 2015 3:18 PM, "Joseph Marsh" <

Re: [AFMUG] LTE Speeds

2015-11-12 Thread Adam Moffett
any system with 20mhz channels + two chains + 256QAM can claim 100mbps. Getting past that is going to be carrier aggregation (bigger channels) and MU-MIMO. 5x20mhz channels aggregated = 500mbps. MU-MIMO can theoretically double capacity. So there's your 1gig. I'm not clear on how far you

Re: [AFMUG] LTE Speeds

2015-11-12 Thread Stefan Englhardt
It just can't do it. For sure the LTE gear carriers are using is very good but they can't do miracles. They praise the sector capacity as user speed. This gig speed lab tests aggregate channels.  Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Matt Datum: 12.11.2015 22:47 (GMT+01:00) An: af@

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread Craig House
Netonix. Maybe not hardened but I have not had one fail yet due to heat in a unvented tower box. Data rate limits per port are easy and they are very reasonable. Craig - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:57:49 PM Subject

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

2015-11-12 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Haha looks like all of us are in the same boat Everybody looking at Everybody else to see if somebody has any input. I have it on my to do list to do some testing because we use proxmox ourselves quite a bit but I'm very unlikely to get to it for another few weeks. Regards Faisal Sent from M

Re: [AFMUG] LTE Speeds

2015-11-12 Thread Adam Moffett
"Eventually 1gbps" is going to be using channel aggregation100mhz not 20mhz. On 11/12/2015 4:47 PM, Matt wrote: Hear talk of these 50 - 100+ mbps speeds per user and eventually 1 gbps. How can LTE do that in 10 to 20 mhz of spectrum? I assume if you are offering 50 mbps package in a sect

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Peter Kranz
For any new builds you should use 50um since it is 10-Gig compatible. 62.5 is being phased out. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com

[AFMUG] LTE Speeds

2015-11-12 Thread Matt
Hear talk of these 50 - 100+ mbps speeds per user and eventually 1 gbps. How can LTE do that in 10 to 20 mhz of spectrum? I assume if you are offering 50 mbps package in a sector its safe to assume at prime time there are going to be at the very least 10 people using it in that sector at the same

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread Sean Heskett
planet IGSW-24040T is what we use at many towers. has 4 SFP ports and 24 copper ports. it can also do throttling like you need. ~$500 -sean On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 1:57 PM, wrote: > Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not > have environmental controls ove

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread chuck
Two votes for Netonix. Thanks, I will look into them. From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch Netonix! I love these switches! Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:57 PM, wrote: Need a harde

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread chuck
POE is not required at this time but may be a requirement at some point. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch POE for radio or simple 100 meg/gigabit ports? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Moxa Jaime Solorza On Nov 12, 2015 2:05 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Planet has some as well. We had a bunch of them. Netonix wasn't around > then so I don't know how they compare. Does Netonix have ERPS G.8032? > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:02 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > >> The Moto/Cambium CMM4

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

2015-11-12 Thread Paul Stewart
Did you get any responses as I'm curious? We have quite a bit of OpenVZ running and wondering about migration to LXC as well... Thanks, Paul -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Honestly couldn't tell you. There's a handful of sites that detail what sizes do which mode. I believe the wavelengths are one or the other as well. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 12, 2015 4:04 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen" wrot

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread Lewis Bergman
Planet has some as well. We had a bunch of them. Netonix wasn't around then so I don't know how they compare. Does Netonix have ERPS G.8032? On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:02 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > The Moto/Cambium CMM4 has an Etherwan switch.� Never had a problem with > that outdoors, but I'm n

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Adam Moffett
I think LC might be the only option small enough for an SFP. The point of LC was to get the fiber interface footprint as small as an RJ45. 50/125 is multimode which yes would be 850nm. On 11/12/2015 3:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: Thanks for the feedback, few more noob questions- LC conn

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Thx- but you can get multimode in 62.5 or 50, right? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 13:00 To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower LC is probably 99.99% of SFP. It's 100% of two strands. The sizing is single/multi

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread Brett A Mansfield
Netonix! I love these switches! Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:57 PM, wrote: > > Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not > have environmental controls over perhaps a fan. > > Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each por

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread Adam Moffett
The Moto/Cambium CMM4 has an Etherwan switch. Never had a problem with that outdoors, but I'm not sure it can rate limit. On 11/12/2015 3:57 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not have environmental controls over perhaps a fan. Nee

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Netonix. We have numerous in outdoor enclosures that all survived the heat of southern Utah this past summer. > On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:57 PM, wrote: > > Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not > have environmental controls over perhaps a fan. > > Need to be a

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
POE for radio or simple 100 meg/gigabit ports? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:57 PM, wrote: > Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not > have environmental controls over p

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
LC is probably 99.99% of SFP. It's 100% of two strands. The sizing is single/multi mode. Personally I've only done armored on towers - from the radio station building or whatever, under the ice bridge and straight up the tower. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne

[AFMUG] Hardened switch

2015-11-12 Thread chuck
Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not have environmental controls over perhaps a fan. Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port. Suggestions?

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Thanks for the feedback, few more noob questions- LC connectors are the best choice for use with SFP modules? 50/125um for better distance with 850nm lasers? Loose tube flooded and armored is best choice for tower riser without conduit? TIA, Scott From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf

Re: [AFMUG] DC Power for Cisco Switch

2015-11-12 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Just get an AC to DC adapter that does 48v. Specs show: -36 to -72 VDC, 2 to 1 A 25 W (typical), 30 W (maximum), > On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:42 PM, Keefe John wrote: > > I have AC and UPS. I just want to power this single switch. > > On 11/12/2015 2:37 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: >> Do you have

Re: [AFMUG] DC Power for Cisco Switch

2015-11-12 Thread Keefe John
I have AC and UPS. I just want to power this single switch. On 11/12/2015 2:37 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: Do you have AC? Want battery backup? On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Keefe John > wrote: What's the most cost effective way to power a single DC Cisco

Re: [AFMUG] DC Power for Cisco Switch

2015-11-12 Thread Carl Peterson
Do you have AC? Want battery backup? On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Keefe John wrote: > What's the most cost effective way to power a single DC Cisco Switch like > this? > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/CISCO-ME3400G-12CS-D-Ethernet-Access-Switch-12-ports-/361407262406?hash=item54258d2ec6:g:08kA

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Carl Peterson
TE has a new fiber/DC power cable that looks kind of like a lamp cord. http://www.te.com/usa-en/products/fiber-optics/hybrid-copper-fiber-products.html?tab=pgp-story It would be easy enough to make breakout cables for the topside or for someone to make pre terminated assemblies. On Thu, Nov 12, 2

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid

2015-11-12 Thread Joseph Marsh
Will be later tomorrow it's 30 miles away in a restaurant in a travel center -Original Message- From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: ‎11/‎11/‎2015 7:03 PM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid Screenshot? I did mine on 2.4. Called it like second-SSID. Seems just fine to

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Cnmaestro would have the text config. You can load it on another unit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 12, 2015 3:18 PM, "Joseph Marsh" wrote: > Will be later tomorrow it's 30 miles away in a restaurant in a travel > center

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Baird
We are ordering pre-terminated armored CommScope fiber from Best-Tronics and running it from a router at the base of the tower to a switch at the top. I would suggest giving BT a call. Josh On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: > Wanting to upgrade several towers with fib

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Adam Moffett
I think some people are doing that. I didn't like the idea of terminations at the top. Ask the tower guy when there's a problem would he rather try to do a termination on the tower or just pull a new cable up. I can probably guess the answer :) If you're putting an interconnect box at the t

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Thanksgiving turkey already on my mind.. *bringing not brining! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:32 To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower Oh, so you’re brining this fiber from the tower base directly int

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Oh, so you’re brining this fiber from the tower base directly into the radio? I had figured the fiber would go from base to a fiber termination box up on the tower, and then patch cables out to the various radios. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday,

Re: [AFMUG] powering PTP600s off other devices

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
PIDU does DC input, take it off the CMM? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > I seem to recall someone using something else, but don’t recall the > details. > > > > H…. > > > > *

Re: [AFMUG] powering PTP600s off other devices

2015-11-12 Thread Paul McCall
I seem to recall someone using something else, but don’t recall the details. H…. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] powering PTP600s off other devices You need the PIDU as far as I kno

[AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

2015-11-12 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Wanting to upgrade several towers with fiber up to the backhauls, any recommendations for specific product or procedures to do the job right the first time?

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF advice/discussion dos and donts

2015-11-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
The thought was to have a universal IP that was the same on every router The loopback is the ospf id Thats one thing im still working on as well is the crafty filtering to get the router to always respond as a particular ip in a traceroute so i can use public space and only use 1 ip instead of 4 p

Re: [AFMUG] sealant for N-F bulkhead connectors

2015-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Or use something like Coax Seal and mold it all the way down the connector onto the box so the water doesn't pool around the connector. Also a drain hole in the bottom of the box is probably better than trying to hermetically seal the box, which will cause a vacuum when the temperature drops w

Re: [AFMUG] sealant for N-F bulkhead connectors

2015-11-12 Thread Adam Moffett
I think we're on the same page then. On 11/12/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Ug... N connectors are water resistant, but that is only internally where the two halves mate at the rubber washer. Water ingress along the cable is the area where N connectors leak if they are going to leak.

[AFMUG] DC Power for Cisco Switch

2015-11-12 Thread Keefe John
What's the most cost effective way to power a single DC Cisco Switch like this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/CISCO-ME3400G-12CS-D-Ethernet-Access-Switch-12-ports-/361407262406?hash=item54258d2ec6:g:08kAAOSwLqFV7xS0 Thanks! Keefe

Re: [AFMUG] sealant for N-F bulkhead connectors

2015-11-12 Thread chuck
Ug... N connectors are water resistant, but that is only internally where the two halves mate at the rubber washer. Water ingress along the cable is the area where N connectors leak if they are going to leak. I would heat shrink everything after you put the cables on the box, then RTV around

Re: [AFMUG] powering PTP600s off other devices

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Baird
You need the PIDU as far as I know. Josh On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Can a PTP600 be easily powered off a CMM3/CMM4 or CTM/CTM2 ? > > > > Any downside? > > > > Paul > > > > Paul McCall, Pres. > > PDMNet / Florida Broadband > > 658 Old Dixie Highway > > Vero Beach, FL

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

2015-11-12 Thread George Skorup
I have brought this up many times. They said they're planning to add an inventory section. So c'mon Cambium! On 11/12/2015 11:14 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Their entitlement portal does a good job of what it does, it just needs to do more. Of course the current method of purchasing entitlements is a

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP with IPSEC throughput cut in haf

2015-11-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Good to know this. So for this tunnel, I add a loopback bridge to each router, i create the tunnel between those IPs so the tunnel will come back up if a path fails and moves. when testing it was about 10 seconds worth of down time, but for the OSPF to propagate the route and the tunnel to negotia

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF advice/discussion dos and donts

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Baird
I'm not following your 'leave 192.168.1.88 on ether1' thing here. You do have a loopback interface correct? In MT, this translates to: /interface bridge add name=loopback /ip address add interface=loopback address=1.2.3.4/32 In this scenario, 1.2.3.4/32 would be accessible no matter what uplink

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

2015-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Sounds like a Carnac curse. “sitting inside a mayonnaise jar on Funk & Wagnall's porch since noon today” From: Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys that would look great in needle point ;-) On Thu, Nov 12, 2

[AFMUG] sealant for N-F bulkhead connectors

2015-11-12 Thread Adam Moffett
I have to install some N-F bulkhead connectors on a box. They're going to come out the to of the box. I would never have put them on top if there was another way, but suffice to say that's how they're going to be. The connectors do come with some kind of rubber washer, but I was thinking of

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF advice/discussion dos and donts

2015-11-12 Thread Adam Moffett
On route filter: Add a route filter in chain ospf-out, prefix = 192.168.88.0/24, action=discard. I put a little private ip range with NAT on the last port of every router I set up so I can always plug in there with my laptop and have internet access + access to the router. Sort of like the ser

[AFMUG] Some OSPF advice/discussion dos and donts

2015-11-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
First, I have to give props to mikrotik. These things are versatile as hell, multiple mechanisms for access, fairly intuitive CLI syntax, Nice simple clean GUI, tons of visibility, I wish we had gone this route 6 years ago, we would be further along in our capabilities. I finally got the biggest s

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

2015-11-12 Thread Sean Heskett
that would look great in needle point ;-) On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, wrote: > This one’s a keeper: > > “I hope the guy in charge of the guys in charge of entitlements gets > shingles and crabs while he has the flue and his wife leaves him with some > young buck with better hair” > > *Fr

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy PMP100 upgrade from 11.2 failing

2015-11-12 Thread Sean Heskett
try this: select the element click on the "edit" menu and select "modify network element access" under http settings section select "both" also make sure that the username and password for that element are correct and the snmp community is correct. -sean On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Wirel

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

2015-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
4th of July Booty ... so that’s a patriotic pirate movie? Argh. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:07 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dmca email But at least you won't need to worry about forwarding it to anyone. On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:52 AM, James Howard wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

2015-11-12 Thread Mathew Howard
But at least you won't need to worry about forwarding it to anyone. On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:52 AM, James Howard wrote: > You’ll get a dmca notice…… > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:42 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

2015-11-12 Thread James Howard
You’ll get a dmca notice…… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dmca email Link? :P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Link? :P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 12, 2015 12:35 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > 4th of July Booty - Kelsi Monroe (Teen Curves 2015-07-02) is apparently a > popular title BTW > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:33 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

2015-11-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
4th of July Booty - Kelsi Monroe (Teen Curves 2015-07-02) is apparently a popular title BTW On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Don't think so, but not sure. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Nov

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Don't think so, but not sure. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 12, 2015 12:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > swip, thats it > > Im trying to understand this better, I dont know about the abuse contact > whether that is ma

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

2015-11-12 Thread Sam Lambie
Well said Steve. I second that emotion. On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, wrote: > This one’s a keeper: > > “I hope the guy in charge of the guys in charge of entitlements gets > shingles and crabs while he has the flue and his wife leaves him with some > young buck with better hair” > > *From:

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

2015-11-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
swip, thats it Im trying to understand this better, I dont know about the abuse contact whether that is maintained as parent, but to provide poc info for a subdelegation does the end user have to accept it and create an ARIN account? On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > You can

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

2015-11-12 Thread chuck
This one’s a keeper: “I hope the guy in charge of the guys in charge of entitlements gets shingles and crabs while he has the flue and his wife leaves him with some young buck with better hair” From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: R

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

2015-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
You can SWIP the block to them, I personally wouldn’t bother for less than a /27 but I guess you could do smaller, I don’t know if you can reassign a single IP, probably yes. Whether this will change who gets the DMCA emails depends on how they are deciding who to send them to, probably abuse c

[AFMUG] powering PTP600s off other devices

2015-11-12 Thread Paul McCall
Can a PTP600 be easily powered off a CMM3/CMM4 or CTM/CTM2 ? Any downside? Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Did you SWIP the hotel's IP block? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:16 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Isnt there something we can do at arin to have these emails go to the >

[AFMUG] dmca email

2015-11-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Isnt there something we can do at arin to have these emails go to the customer if we register their ip block or something like that, for the most part the only ones we get come from a motel, id rather not even see them, -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team a

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

2015-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Their entitlement portal does a good job of what it does, it just needs to do more. Of course the current method of purchasing entitlements is a pain, they should let you buy them online and deposit them directly to your entitlement account, where you would be able to see what you have purchase

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy PMP100 upgrade from 11.2 failing

2015-11-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
try a different version of cnut On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Wireless Administrator wrote: > I have several radio’s that have not been in service for a while. They’re > running 11.2 software and when I try to upgrade them to 12.1 or 13.1.3 I > get an error message: > > > > “Radio closed FT

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

2015-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
I heard rumors that epmp won't be screwing the customer when upgrading from lite to full APs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:05 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > fuck cambium

[AFMUG] Canopy PMP100 upgrade from 11.2 failing

2015-11-12 Thread Wireless Administrator
I have several radio's that have not been in service for a while. They're running 11.2 software and when I try to upgrade them to 12.1 or 13.1.3 I get an error message: "Radio closed FTP connection FTP transfer files failed ." This happens on several different radios. These radios have

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